Katie Johnson full testimony from 2/11/2016. Trump raped her at 13

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[DHT]Osiris

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I don't believe it for the simple reason that it would have come out already if there was evidence of wrongdoing by Trump. It's also worth noting that Musk didn't come forward with this information because of his deep moral convictions, he did it because he's mad at Trump.
Musk is in a very bad spot, his car company is taking a beating because of him being Trumps hatchet man, and Trump appears to be ending the subsidy's that have helped sustain Tesla's growth. Musk has been cornholed and he's pissed off about it. He's going to lash out at Trump in any way he can.
'i don't believe this info coming out because if it was real it would have come out by now' is a boldly stupid take.
 

Greenman

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'i don't believe this info coming out because if it was real it would have come out by now' is a boldly stupid take.
It's absolutely accurate. The opportunity to destroy Trump with solid evidence of statutory rape or pedophilia would never be left on the table. Trump hate is boundless.
 

HomerJS

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I don't believe it for the simple reason that it would have come out already if there was evidence of wrongdoing by Trump. It's also worth noting that Musk didn't come forward with this information because of his deep moral convictions, he did it because he's mad at Trump.
Musk is in a very bad spot, his car company is taking a beating because of him being Trumps hatchet man, and Trump appears to be ending the subsidy's that have helped sustain Tesla's growth. Musk has been cornholed and he's pissed off about it. He's going to lash out at Trump in any way he can.
Did you listen to her testimony or are you just choosing to believe Trump isn’t capable?

Are you saying it is not plausible? Did she make it up just because she hates Trump?
 

brycejones

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Did you listen to her testimony or are you just choosing to believe Trump isn’t capable?

Are you saying it is not plausible? Did she make it up just because she hates Trump?
Don’t forget greenman always says we need a jury to determine what happened, and when they don’t it doesn’t fit his narrative he just says the jury is wrong.
 

HomerJS

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This is hilarious, a jury found that he did in fact sexually assault a woman and you hand waved it away.
Of course he just waved it away. Grennie is good at “forgetting” facts. He would support Trump if he was caught red handed raping a 9 year old girl
 
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NWRMidnight

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It's absolutely accurate. The opportunity to destroy Trump with solid evidence of statutory rape or pedophilia would never be left on the table. Trump hate is boundless.
You really need to stop living in your imaginary bubble where you think EVERYTHING revolves around Trump, and every thing is souly about him. Then maybe you will realize how inaccurate your take is.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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It's absolutely accurate. The opportunity to destroy Trump with solid evidence of statutory rape or pedophilia would never be left on the table. Trump hate is boundless.
He was found beyond a reasonable doubt to have raped a woman.
 

HomerJS

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Notice how @Greenman is too chickenshit to answer the original question

“Is it plausible based on everything we know about Trump that he raped a 13 year old girl”

I already answered comparing two presidents. Barack Obama and Donald Trump. Answers are not based on hate but publicly available EVIDENCE.
 

kage69

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Sometimes I wonder if Greenman sustained a serious head injury at some point, and his posts are just the result of brain trauma that will never heal.


"Trump hate is boundless"


The guy tries to extort Zelenskyy, gets a pass. Steals top secret docs to sell, gets a pass. Tries to steal an election, gets a pass. Tries to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after losing said election, starts an insurrection complete with fake elector plots in 7 states. Straight to a pass. He's prevented from running for office again, a la 14th Amendment, but believe it or not, SCROTUS gives him a pass. 4 years of sane washing, shitloads of money, and no small amount of voter suppression later and he's back in the White House.

Trump hate is entirely justified based on harm alone, you don't even have to bring politics into it. Trump's criminality is what's boundless, though probably also the depravity of those who worship him. Talk about sad sacks of shit with so sense of decency or shame, damn.
 
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outriding

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Sometimes I wonder if Greenman sustained a serious head injury at some point, and his posts are just the result of brain trauma that will never heal.


"Trump hate is boundless"


The guy tries to extort Zelenskyy, gets a pass. Steals top secret docs to sell, gets a pass. Tries to steal an election, gets a pass. Tries to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after losing said election, starts an insurrection complete with fake elector plots in 7 states. Straight to a pass. He's prevented from running for office again, a la 14th Amendment, but believe it or not, SCROTUS gives him a pass. 4 years of sane washing, shitloads of money, and no small amount of voter suppression later and he's back in the White House.

Trump hate is entirely justified based on harm alone, you don't even have to bring politics into it. Trump's criminality is what's boundless, though probably also the depravity of those who worship him. Talk about sad sacks of shit with so sense of decency or shame, damn.

And this was only while he was in office

I still cannot get around his university fraud and steal from a kids cancer charity

And anyone would think he is going to make a great president
 

fskimospy

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And this was only while he was in office

I still cannot get around his university fraud and steal from a kids cancer charity

And anyone would think he is going to make a great president
It shows how much of a bubble the right is in where they see Trump openly selling access to the presidency and sending people to overseas gulags without trial and decide that really it’s the people who don’t like Trump who are the problem.

Tribal identity is extremely strong for people and there’s almost nothing it won’t justify.
 
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dank69

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It's absolutely accurate. The opportunity to destroy Trump with solid evidence of statutory rape or pedophilia would never be left on the table. Trump hate is boundless.
The guy with boundless hate for Clinton wants us to know Trump hate is boundless.
 
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fskimospy

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The guy with boundless hate for Clinton wants us to know Trump hate is boundless.
It seems more like a coping mechanism to me. IMO he knows Trump is bad, it's just that he has to support the political tribe.

The way to do this is what anti-anti Trumpers do, which is to not spend a ton of time defending Trump himself but instead spend that time attacking his enemies, calling them deranged or overcome with hate, or whatever.
 

dank69

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It seems more like a coping mechanism to me. IMO he knows Trump is bad, it's just that he has to support the political tribe.

The way to do this is what anti-anti Trumpers do, which is to not spend a ton of time defending Trump himself but instead spend that time attacking his enemies, calling them deranged or overcome with hate, or whatever.
Boundless is the key word here used to rationalize everything away. Notice he doesn't say it's unjustified or unfounded or misplaced. Hitler hate was boundless as well. Boundless doesn't mean unwarranted. He wants as many people as possible to infer that boundless means unwarranted the way he does.
 

VashHT

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It seems more like a coping mechanism to me. IMO he knows Trump is bad, it's just that he has to support the political tribe.

The way to do this is what anti-anti Trumpers do, which is to not spend a ton of time defending Trump himself but instead spend that time attacking his enemies, calling them deranged or overcome with hate, or whatever.
Another thing I see right wingers do is say they don't really like trump but democrats are far worse. They think it makes them sound smart to admit trump isn't that great but they buy into the whole "radical left" bullshit and support him anyways.
 

hal2kilo

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Boundless is the key word here used to rationalize everything away. Notice he doesn't say it's unjustified or unfounded or misplaced. Hitler hate was boundless as well. Boundless doesn't mean unwarranted. He wants as many people as possible to infer that boundless means unwarranted the way he does.
And obsession.

 

BonzaiDuck

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A lot of interesting contributions in this thread.

Some people -- not necessarily those here but possibly a few -- have a confused understanding of the word "Truth".

To put it in easily understood layman's language, there is a CSI view of things and a judicial jury trial perspective. It may escape some as to the well-worn distinction between "innocent" and "not guilty", but it is clear that our judicial system is biased to protect the innocent, and we accept that fact that some guilty parties go free.

Consider (did I ever bring this up in the past?) the murder trial of the accused in the Emmett Till murder case. The defendants were all acquitted -- being white in a community dominated by whites. Advised of their rights against double jeopardy, the perpetrators were interviewed by a national news magazine to casually and candidly explain how the killed Till, why the killed him, and every other aspect that would warranted a guilty verdict if the admissions had been presented in court.

The CSI perspective is a matter of science, facts, logical inference and acceptance of tinctures of uncertainty, but the judicial concept of "reasonable doubt" can lead to dismissal of the blood-stained socks in the OJ Simpson trial -- mostly a question of chain of custody in that case.

Yet -- and of course -- Trump was judged to be a rapist or at least guilty of sexual assault in the civil trial awarding damages to E. Jean Carroll. This judicial outcome was enough for me to conclude that Trump is a rapist -- in at least a single instance of rape.

As to these other accusations or allegations, they may be True, but I admit the uncertainties: it "might not" be True.

Consider this. No prosecutor worth his salt is going to bring charges against someone unless he has a very good chance of winning at trial. Thus, there must be plentiful facts buttressed by ample logical inferences. We have Trump charged with 94 felony counts, in about five jurisdictions including local, state and federal. He was convicted of 34 of those counts -- felony falsification of records -- by Alvin Bragg. Those convictions also gave assistance to Letitia James in her civil lawsuit against Trump for defrauding the state of New York. Other charges were more serious, but the prosecutions were obstructed -- for instance by the rulings of Judge Aileen Cannon, whose wisdom was disparaged by a three judge appeals court panel of Republican judicial appointments.

This made it necessary that the presidential election itself became a sort of jury trial, but the "jurors" were not required to sit around the table, know each other and look each other in the eye. So the election itself seems to follow a parallel of the Emmett Till case.

YOUR "President" of MY country is a criminal by the best attention I can give to the facts, common sense and simple statistical understanding that you can't have a conspiracy proven unless somebody talks among large numbers of prospective conspirators -- making "the talk" likely if the conspiracy exists, and you can't have so many felony charges be "political" in five independent jurisdictions.

He's a criminal. And since that is the way our judicial system seems to protect us, I won't accept the legitimacy of his presidency no matter how many chuckleheads voted for him. If the Judiciary and Congress can't get rid of him, then get out the pitchforks and AR-15s and "Overthrow any criminal regime by any necessary means."

Perhaps a joke is in order, or a reference to an old show in the golden age of television -- "I Remember Mama" -- in which the bespectacled character of a woman's son is constantly in tears, saying "Nobody loves me! Everybody hates me!"

Trump's transgressions are so numerous and well-established, how could anyone see it differently, except for the lame-brain chuckleheads who continue to support him?
 
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