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Have you set that up in your TR system?Gen5 is i think considered faster then DDR4 in a RAID-0 utilizing a full 16x PCI-E slot.
Have you set that up in your TR system?Gen5 is i think considered faster then DDR4 in a RAID-0 utilizing a full 16x PCI-E slot.
How? NAND flash has terrible latency. You could have 1TB/s NVMe drive and you still couldn't replace DRAM. Optane DIMMs were 100x faster in this regard and it was still significantly behind DRAM.im actually waiting for Ram to go obselete with Gen7 or Gen8 nVME's replacing RAM / Storage all together.
Gen5 is i think considered faster then DDR4 in a RAID-0 utilizing a full 16x PCI-E slot.
I think by Gen7 we may see the DDR slot disappear all together.
No not with PCI-E 5.0.Have you set that up in your TR system?
I am predicting by the time we hit Gen7 the PCI-E Lanes will be Gen.7 as well, and will probably work itself out as the PCI-E lanes are all tied directly to the CPU now.How? NAND flash has terrible latency. You could have 1TB/s NVMe drive and you still couldn't replace DRAM. Optane DIMMs were 100x faster in this regard and it was still significantly behind DRAM.
That changes nothing. NAND tech itself is limited to about 50-100us, and that's under random reads. It's literally 1000x the difference. Writes are worse because you need write-delete-write cycle, which is so slow that without DRAM buffer it would be absolutely unusable beyond 1-bit SLC SSDs. Under random writes, bufferless 2-bit NAND is in the slow HDD range for speed. Even DRAM-less SSDs use tricks such as using system DRAM or SLC caches.Its like how you look at SCI FI movies and see how everything is based off iso crystals or some sort.
I am thinking that will be the RAM / OS / Storage all in 1 part, and the CPU/GPU/Motherboard will be its own.
im actually waiting for Ram to go obselete with Gen7 or Gen8 nVME's replacing RAM / Storage all together.
Gen5 is i think considered faster then DDR4 in a RAID-0 utilizing a full 16x PCI-E slot.
I think by Gen7 we may see the DDR slot disappear all together.
How? NAND flash has terrible latency. You could have 1TB/s NVMe drive and you still couldn't replace DRAM. Optane DIMMs were 100x faster in this regard and it was still significantly behind DRAM.
They fail of course, but it's normal variations, and unpredictable one at that. But NAND lifecycles? It's predictable. It's low enough that while most of us may never experience it, it's within realms of plausibility.How many times have you had DRAM fail? I did once. And since any that is worth a crap has a lifetime warranty all I had to do was put in the RMA "Failed in Memtest86" and I got a free replacement.
I really think it had potential, but I get their point. If they succeeded, then eventually they would have had to compete in a low margin market, which is basically moderate amount of money unless you are #1.If anything I wish Intel/Micron didn't give up on Optane. The performance low low QD levels was unbeatable. Just a bit too pricey to be worth it for the mass market I guess.
I was going to post was @DavidC1 said but he beat me to it, twice. My first concern was the limited lifespan of NAND, but latency would be a huge factor that I did not even consider at first. CPU's need low latency.
How many times have you had DRAM fail? I did once. And since any that is worth a crap has a lifetime warranty all I had to do was put in the RMA "Failed in Memtest86" and I got a free replacement.
If anything I wish Intel/Micron didn't give up on Optane. The performance low low QD levels was unbeatable. Just a bit too pricey to be worth it for the mass market I guess.