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Jaskalas

Lifer
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Are there no provisions in the constitution for getting rid of a mad president?
Not when there's an entire party of madness standing with him.
Recall, Trump was already impeached twice on his first term.
Republicans wholly endorse this shit.

Which only leaves the use of force. Don't think anyone has it in them. Trump's biggest danger is a hamburger.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Not when there's an entire party of madness standing with him.
Recall, Trump was already impeached twice on his first term.
Republicans wholly endorse this shit.

Which only leaves the use of force.

When everyone is scared or doesn't care.. you get Putin and Maduro.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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So Crispy Gnome (or whatever her name is) was declaring that the Trump regime is going to 'liberate' Los Angeles (from it's elected government)?

Reminiscent of the rhetoric around Iraq. Does seem to be the case that colonial empires always come home eventually. Supporters of empire-building and foreign military adventures need to realise that the tactics used against distant brown-skinned folk will one day end up being applied to domestic populations by the elites.

Next they'll be noticing that California has WMDs.
 

nakedfrog

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So Crispy Gnome (or whatever her name is) was declaring that the Trump regime is going to 'liberate' Los Angeles (from it's elected government)?

Reminiscent of the rhetoric around Iraq. Does seem to be the case that colonial empires always come home eventually. Supporters of empire-building and foreign military adventures need to realise that the tactics used against distant brown-skinned folk will one day end up being applied to domestic populations by the elites.

Next they'll be noticing that California has WMDs.
Literally one teeny speck of LA that the fascists are using to justify their fascism (not like it takes much for them, "they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs", for example)
 
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alien42

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Yep. Now SECdef DUI is dodging a direct question from Ro Khanna and whether he'd follow a court order or not:

Hegseth refuses to commit to obeying courts on marines in LA

Defense secretary Pete Hegseth has refused to say whether he would follow the courts if they ruled against Donald Trump’s sending active-duty marines to Los Angeles despite California governor Gavin Newsom’s objections.

The Pentagon chief repeatedly deflected when asked at a House armed services committee hearing whether he would respect a federal district or supreme court decision on the issue.

Democratic representative Ro Khanna, of California, asked: “Whatever the federal district court decides, will you abide by it?” Hegseth answered that it was a “pending situation”.

Asked again, he said:

What I will tell you is, my job right now is to ensure the troops that we have in Los Angeles are capable of supporting law enforcement.

Pressed again, the defense secretary said:

We’ve always looked to the decisions of the court.

Urged again to assure people that he would respect court decisions on the issue, Hegseth said:

What I can say is we should not have local judges determining foreign policy or national security policy for the country.

“So you’re not willing to say you would respect those decisions?” Hegseth was asked. He replied:

What I’m saying is, local district judges shouldn’t make foreign policy for the United States

Edit: fixed the spelling of the representative’s name
I just happened to catch that live this morning. Not long ago that would have not only been the end of his tenure, but his military/political career.
 

VRAMdemon

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It looks like Felon Trump has declared war on Democrats. McIver being arrested, now this Padilla incident. Snatching people off the streets by mask thugs. Fascism is here. The Gestapo are trying to cower the public. Padilla did not "crash" the news conference. He had every right to be there. Standing up against the violence perpetrated against his state is his solemn duty. the "crashing" is being done by Homan, Noem and Trump. these propaganda press conferences are an abomination against the truth, and designed to inflame the fires of racism in this country.
 

VRAMdemon

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"They're burning whole cities to the ground." They've been conditioned on this shit for years already.

They watch the same video of a burning car over and over and convince themselves that all of LA is ablaze. And it works every time. Lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie.
 
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Lifer
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It looks like Felon Trump has declared war on Democrats. McIver being arrested, now this Padilla incident. Snatching people off the streets by mask thugs. Fascism is here. The Gestapo are trying to cower the public. Padilla did not "crash" the news conference. He had every right to be there. Standing up against the violence perpetrated against his state is his solemn duty. the "crashing" is being done by Homan, Noem and Trump. these propaganda press conferences are an abomination against the truth, and designed to inflame the fires of racism in this country.

I don't think this is all direct orders from Trump. As with that cop firing a plastic bullet at close range at the back of a journalist, I would guess it's just a reflection of the fact the US security apparatus has always had a significant proportion of instinctive fascists, who know what is expected of them without needing explicit instructions from the Fuhrer. He's just given them license to do what they already want to do.

People here keep insisting that fascist instinct doesn't permeate the actual military. I have no idea - maybe that's right, and it's only the cops and other law-enforcement agents who have the required mindset. Very much hope so.
 

NWRMidnight

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I noticed something in her "speech" just before his 3 second "outburst" (not), and was pushed towards the door... She said they where not leaving, as they where there to liberate the leadership of the city, not that they where there to protect the citizens from the people breaking the law, looting, vandalizing, etc.. but to remove the leadership.... Think about what she is telling us folks.. This is about taking over every level of government, by force and using protests as excuses to enter and setup a front line to take them over.
 

IronWing

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I noticed something in her "speech" just before his 3 second "outburst" (not), and was pushed towards the door... She said they where not leaving, as they where there to liberate the leadership of the city, not that they where there to protect the citizens from the people breaking the law, looting, vandalizing, etc.. but to remove the leadership.... Think about what she is telling us folks.. This is about taking over every level of government, by force and using protests as excuses to enter and setup a front line to take them over.
When people tell you who they are, believe them. Fascists never give up peacefully.
 
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This is about taking over every level of government, by force and using protests as excuses to enter and setup a front line to take them over.
Yes so why is this even possible? Why aren't their measures in place to protect the people from the government when it goes rogue?

This administration is making the Bush family look like angels.
 

VRAMdemon

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Kristi Noem: - "We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and and that this mayor had placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city."

An unelected official saying she's "liberating" a city from its democratically elected mayor and governor. The leaders who were elected by it's citizens to over see it. And these were in her prepared remarks!

Noem is calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government. She should be arrested. She seems to admit sending in the military has absolutely nothing to do with deportations and everything to do with overthrowing a democratically elected government

A perfect example of fascism.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Kristi Noem: - "We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and and that this mayor had placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into the city."

An unelected official saying she's "liberating" a city from its democratically elected mayor and governor. The leaders who were elected by it's citizens to over see it. And these were in her prepared remarks!

Noem is calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government. She should be arrested. She seems to admit sending in the military has absolutely nothing to do with deportations and everything to do with overthrowing a democratically elected government

A perfect example of fascism.

No no no.. a perfect excuse to burn it all down and build beach houses and hotels for white people while killing/ evicting the current owners!

It's kill or be killed.. wake the fuck up you naive stupid as fucking sawdust @nakedfrog who no doubt will defend the MAGA here like they defend the 2 billion!

Meanwhile the proof stares you in the face and you can't deny it:

 
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VRAMdemon

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Hopefully National Guard troops and Marines are talking. They should know they're being used as political pawns.

Federal government sending in the military to take over the state sounds like an insurrection against California's elected government. Noem explaining the Trump Admin's intent to have Big Nanny Government Authoritarians in our face all day.

Are they going to arrest the governor and the mayor? Install a military commander to take charge of California and LA? They are not there to stop an insurrection but to overtake the governor legitimate authority. Got it.

The population of the Greater LA Metro area is ~18.5 million. The population of South Dakota (the whole state) is 925,000. Go home Kristi, you are way out of your league.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Hopefully National Guard troops and Marines are talking. They should know they're being used as political pawns.

Federal government sending in the military to take over the state sounds like an insurrection against California's elected government. Noem explaining the Trump Admin's intent to have Big Nanny Government Authoritarians in our face all day.

Are they going to arrest the governor and the mayor? Install a military commander to take charge of California and LA? They are not there to stop an insurrection but to overtake the governor legitimate authority. Got it.

The population of the Greater LA Metro area is ~18.5 million. The population of South Dakota (the whole state) is 925,000. Go home Kristi, you are way out of your league.

Hahaha fat chance.. they'll get off on killing protestors.. nothing like making target practice of people you don't like when you're not in uniform.
 
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