8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

BFG10K · Jul 13, 2021

8GB

Dying Light 2, Battlefield 2042, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, Starfield, Forza Horizon 5, Horizon Forbidden West, Alan Wake 2, The Last of Us, Tekken 8, FC 24, Detroit Become Human, Death Stranding, Alone in The Dark, Overwatch 2
3060 12GB higher 1% low than 4060 8GB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIfz57wmywg
Cyberpunk 2077, Diablo 4, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon Zero Dawn, Microsoft Flight Sim 2020, Witcher 3, Watch Dogs Legion skip to 4K + DLSS for each game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPiaWWd0xGc
Ratchet & Clank, Plague Tale Requiem, Last Of Us, Jedi Survivor, Far Cry 6, Hogwarts Legacy, Forza Horizon 5, Cyberpunk 2077 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr3MckDxMfE&pp=ygUTMTZnYiB2cyA4Z2IgNDA2MCB0aQ==
Far Cry 6, Godfall, Hogwarts Legacy, Forza Horizon 5, Forspoken, Doom Eternal, Watchdogs Legion https://youtu.be/fJc--C01P90?t=268
Last Of Us, Resident Evil 4, Callisto Protocol, Plague Tale Requiem, Halo Infinite, Forspoken https://youtu.be/2_Y3E631ro8?t=429
Last Of Us, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4, Forspoken, Plague Tale Requiem, Callisto Protocol https://youtu.be/Rh7kFgHe21k?t=288
Hogwarts Legacy, Last Of Us, Spider Man Remastered, Doom Eternal, Forza Horizon 5 https://youtu.be/R943CbDTq_s?t=1473
Horizon Forbidden West 4060 has issues @ 1080p + DLSS unless you switch off frame generation and reduce settings to high https://youtu.be/3AyKvI23VGw?t=233
Horizon Forbidden West 3070 requires reducing textures 2 notches https://youtu.be/xTwEGy6HHKo?t=351
Deathloop https://youtu.be/lu_XHyO-6zY?t=918
Ghost Recon Breakpoint https://youtu.be/iUGppQVpXzU?t=529
Resident Evil 2 https://youtu.be/Aa-gsgRjMII?t=796
Talos Principle 2 https://youtu.be/K6FATQAuEwI?t=337
Spider Man Remastered https://youtu.be/vRVR_plVSlc?t=1060
Witcher 3 https://youtu.be/vRVR_plVSlc?t=1240

Horizon Forbidden West 3060 is faster than the 2080 Super despite the former usually competing with the 2070. Also 3060 has a better 1% low than 4060 and 4060Ti 8GB.

Resident Evil Village 3060TI/3070 tanks at 4K and is slower than the 3060/6700XT when ray tracing:

Company Of Heroes 3060 has a higher minimum than the 3070TI:

10GB / 12GB

Plague Tale Requiem 3080 10GB tanks if you enable ray tracing, would be fast enough if it had more VRAM because if you stop moving, the framerate stabilizes to >60FPS https://youtu.be/7zjrMww3fAc?t=496
Hogwarts Legacy 4K + RT, 4060Ti 16GB is faster than 4070 12GB https://youtu.be/X-h_R488Mq8?t=191

Reasons why still shipping 8GB since 2014 isn't NV's fault.

It's the player's fault.
It's the reviewer's fault.
It's the developer's fault.
It's AMD's fault.
It's the game's fault.
It's the driver's fault.
It's a system configuration issue.
Wrong settings were tested.
Wrong area was tested.
Wrong games were tested.
4K is irrelevant.
Texture quality is irrelevant as long as it matches a console's.
Detail levels are irrelevant as long as they match a console's.
There's no reason a game should use more than 8GB, because a random forum user said so.
It's completely acceptable for the more expensive 3070/3070TI/3080 to turn down settings while the cheaper 3060/6700XT has no issue.
It's an anomaly.
It's a console port.
It's a conspiracy against NV.
8GB cards aren't meant for 4K / 1440p / 1080p / 720p gaming.
It's completely acceptable to disable ray tracing on NV while AMD has no issue.
Polls, hardware market share, and game title count are evidence 8GB is enough, but are totally ignored when they don't suit the ray tracing agenda.

According to some people here, 8GB is neeeevaaaaah NV's fault and objective evidence "doesn't count" because of reasons(tm). If you have others please let me know and I'll add them to the list. Cheers!

Seba · Saturday at 5:02 AM

I tried to run MHW Benchmark on my RX 7600 8GB (Medium Graphics settings, FSR disabled, Upscaling disabled) and it crashes after 10 seconds or so (Adrenalin 25.6.1).

Initially I thought it could be the tuned GPU settings, but it crashes even with the default settings.

Lots of people complain online about this MHW Benchmark crashing even with much better graphics cards (especially with AMD cards, but also a few with Nvidia cards).

DAPUNISHER · Saturday at 8:40 AM

marees said:
I also think that the hardware compression/decompression engines which allow fast streaming from SSDs in modern consoles encourages game devs to prioritize vram heavy gameplay for open world games

Xbox Velocity Architecture https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/14/a-closer-look-at-xbox-velocity-architecture/

and PS5 Oodle texture and Kraken https://cbloomrants.blogspot.com/2020/09/how-oodle-kraken-and-oodle-texture.html

Are both impressive. Some seem to think you can grab a 3700X and RX 6700 and effectively have a PS5, but that is well below the PC hardware specs you need to get similar results, due to those console features. Hell, Oodle is one of the best ways to expose Raptor Lake degradation. The PS5 Pro gives developers access to 13.7GB of GDDR6. You can see how PS5 ports hammer 8GB cards on PC. Last of Us 2 they cheesed because of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the first game being a vram hog. PCMR is a bad joke anymore. Bunch of chuds playing with cope settings worse than console, defending outdated 8GB cards. Because why? 😵‍💫

Ranulf · Saturday at 10:36 AM

Seba said:
I tried to run MHW Benchmark on my RX 7600 8GB (Medium Graphics settings, FSR disabled, Upscaling disabled) and it crashes after 10 seconds or so (Adrenalin 25.6.1).

Initially I thought it could be the tuned GPU settings, but it crashes even with the default settings.

Lots of people complain online about this MHW Benchmark crashing even with much better graphics cards (especially with AMD cards, but also a few with Nvidia cards).

Yeah, I noticed with my nvidia card that the benchmark would say "good" with dlss on but with fsr and framegen it said "playable". This despite the fps being over double on the fsr/fg version.

eek2121 · Saturday at 11:28 AM

DAPUNISHER said:
Xbox Velocity Architecture https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/07/14/a-closer-look-at-xbox-velocity-architecture/

and PS5 Oodle texture and Kraken https://cbloomrants.blogspot.com/2020/09/how-oodle-kraken-and-oodle-texture.html

Are both impressive. Some seem to think you can grab a 3700X and RX 6700 and effectively have a PS5, but that is well below the PC hardware specs you need to get similar results, due to those console features. Hell, Oodle is one of the best ways to expose Raptor Lake degradation. The PS5 Pro gives developers access to 13.7GB of GDDR6. You can see how PS5 ports hammer 8GB cards on PC. Last of Us 2 they cheesed because of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the first game being a vram hog. PCMR is a bad joke anymore. Bunch of chuds playing with cope settings worse than console, defending outdated 8GB cards. Because why? 😵‍💫

I am curious as to why none of the GPU vendors have innovated more in the GPU/bulk storage area. Something like a PCIE 5.0/6.0 m.2 slot to allow textures to be bulk cached or something. (that is, the PCIE slot goes to the GPU and isn’t shared with the host system.

Just my wild thinking, don’t mind me. 🤣

Thunder 57 · Saturday at 11:38 AM

eek2121 said:
I am curious as to why none of the GPU vendors have innovated more in the GPU/bulk storage area. Something like a PCIE 5.0/6.0 m.2 slot to allow textures to be bulk cached or something. (that is, the PCIE slot goes to the GPU and isn’t shared with the host system.

Just my wild thinking, don’t mind me. 🤣

Something like the Radeon Pro SSG?

marees · 2025-06-16T05:46:11-0400

So, then, R.I.P. 8gb vram cards ???

marees said:
CD Projekt Red says The Witcher 4 will be a 'more console-first development'
News
By Jody Macgregor published 5 hours ago
But also: "Because we're CDPR, we always like to push PCs to the limit."

Digital Foundry interviewed CD Projekt Red and Epic about the Unreal Engine 5 tech demo for The Witcher 4 and it's an interesting look at the state of the art when it comes to how many polygons you need to make a pine tree look all nice (answer: a lot). One of the first topics that came up was the fact this tech demo was shown running on a PlayStation 5 rather than a PC.

"We always do PC and we push and then we try to scale down," said Charles Tremblay, VP of technology at CD Projekt Red. "But then we had so many problems in the past that we tried to see, OK, this time around we really want to be more console-first development, right? And then we worked with Unreal, with our partner, and then we saw the challenge—to realize the ambition that to make what we want at 60 fps on PS5 would be, you know, there would be work."

we knew that once we'll set up certain foundations both visually and technically, there's room to scale up. Now what that means is another question. Because we're CDPR, we always like to push PCs to the limit. It's just a creative process how to really use it.

CD Projekt Red says The Witcher 4 will be a 'more console-first development'

But also: "Because we're CDPR, we always like to push PCs to the limit."

www.pcgamer.com

poke01 · 2025-06-16T06:02:12-0400

marees said:
So, then, R.I.P. 8gb vram cards ???

When a NINTENDO CONSOLE has more usable Video memory thats when you really know that 8GB VRAM is RIP.

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