Proud Boys sent out the message
Far-right groups are sharing scary messages ahead of ‘No Kings’ protests
Accounts associated with extremist groups are sharing detailed information about protest organizers, including names and where they workwww.independent.co.uk
Definitely a consequence of guns in the US, but I also think this is part of a larger issue. Political violence is normalized on the right - just look at how often elected officials talk about gunning down citizens or having fantasies about beating protesters, etc. When they send signals like that unstable people hear them and are more likely to act.I'm speculating wildly-prematurely, but Dan White had right-wing views, but arguably was also a bit of a nut with "personal issues". Just saying this seems, so far, maybe more of a local issue with a lone oddball than part of some wider assault on democracy (not that such an assault isn't also underway) . And also, as always, a consequence of US gun culture.
I once thought I was a "centrist". Probably, to a lesser degree, I started to move Left with the Bush 43 regime and the unnecessary war in Iraq coupled with tax-cuts as opposed to tax raises. With Trump and his minions, I've really shifted Left. I'm for anything AOC advocates.Definitely a consequence of guns in the US, but I also think this is part of a larger issue. Political violence is normalized on the right - just look at how often elected officials talk about gunning down citizens or having fantasies about beating protesters, etc. When they send signals like that unstable people hear them and are more likely to act.
Also, the way GOP members have framed a lot of the political disagreements for the last 20 years: Republicans have used language that gives tacit support to violent actions.Definitely a consequence of guns in the US, but I also think this is part of a larger issue. Political violence is normalized on the right - just look at how often elected officials talk about gunning down citizens or having fantasies about beating protesters, etc. When they send signals like that unstable people hear them and are more likely to act.
Almost certainly he was part of a social media network that encouraged violence. Hard to see him being part of a larger capable network given the number of stupid decisions he made over the past few days.This is where the idea to snatch a Proud Boy off the streets would have merit.
Cops Probe If Captured MAGA Assassin Is Part of ‘Broader Network’
Vance Luther Boelter, 57, was captured at a farm on Sunday night.www.thedailybeast.com
This MN guy had ~70 people on his target list. Dan White had Harvey Milk and the mayor of San Francisco on his mind, and his gun. Oh, and his Twinkie addiction.I'm speculating wildly-prematurely, but Dan White had right-wing views, but arguably was also a bit of a nut with "personal issues". Just saying this seems, so far, maybe more of a local issue with a lone oddball than part of some wider assault on democracy (not that such an assault isn't also underway) . And also, as always, a consequence of US gun culture.
Heck, last evening I passed by OAN, or Newmax, or some Sinclair nut job station, and they said that the motive was unknown, although it might be political, something to that effect. When it was well known, by the rest of the media that a manifesto was found and all of the people on the list were known to be pro choice advocates.For some context...
Republican extremists, who eventually became MAGA, disavow the "Republican" party for not being extreme enough.
I separated from that path, others I know personally did not.
Any Republican not MAGA enough is deemed a RINO, or a Democrat in disguise.
Which includes pretty much EVERY SINGLE Republican before Trump.
However, their seething hatred for Democrats is a constant anchor that defines them.
So if this terrorist wasn't just a regular nutjob, he would fit the motive of a MAGA nutjob. However, if he did not declare himself in some way, if the people that knew him did not know his affiliation. That would be a surprise. MAGA usually have to loudly and proudly declare themselves. It is the dogmatic zeal to which they cling to Trump's bosom. So if he was really quiet, and no investigation can discover such affiliation, I would be fine in declaring this one as a lone nutter.
OTOH, MAGA's obsession with declaring any and all violence as Democrat.... sigh.... No surprise there, just continued disappointment.
There's a restaurant/bar in walking distance to where I live, but I haven't gone back there since the Trump madness took over the majority of the minds of the clientele.I once thought I was a "centrist". Probably, to a lesser degree, I started to move Left with the Bush 43 regime and the unnecessary war in Iraq coupled with tax-cuts as opposed to tax raises. With Trump and his minions, I've really shifted Left. I'm for anything AOC advocates.
I have thoughts of violent scenarios every day. I'm not the only one who screams at the TV when Trump makes appearances: mild-mannered, soft-spoken friends have been described doing the same, and I suspect one death by stroke and another crippling by stroke has occurred because of this unhappiness.
The Trump GOP needs to be held rigorously accountable for everything they've done in attempting to destroy our country. You cannot have civil dialogue with people who propagate or willfully believe lies, and Trump is all about law-breaking and lying. there is no compromise; no recognition -- no civility. And I've said many times: If someone habitually murders the Truth, it is a call to conventional violence.
So whether or not I could possibly and successfully approach Trump or Musk with a Louisville Slugger, I contain my desires and favor Rule of Law or just keeping myself out of the slammer. I'm just determined not to be civil and nice to MAGA lunatics.
I cannot forgive what has happened. Laws were broken; lives have been disrupted. And until someone has been held formally accountable and possibly punished, I'm not offering road-side first-aid to Space-Alien GOP MAGA and their injured kids. I advocate replacing every Space-Alien MAGA with ANY . . . HUMAN . . . BEING.
The BLUES need to finish the Civil War without Lincoln's mercy. Meantime, I worry about myself every time I encounter one of those Creeps, every time I go to a sports bar and discover I'm sitting next to one. Giving someone a roundhouse smack in the face results in assault charges and jail time.
I once thought I was a "centrist". Probably, to a lesser degree, I started to move Left with the Bush 43 regime and the unnecessary war in Iraq coupled with tax-cuts as opposed to tax raises. With Trump and his minions, I've really shifted Left. I'm for anything AOC advocates.
I have thoughts of violent scenarios every day. I'm not the only one who screams at the TV when Trump makes appearances: mild-mannered, soft-spoken friends have been described doing the same, and I suspect one death by stroke and another crippling by stroke has occurred because of this unhappiness.
The Trump GOP needs to be held rigorously accountable for everything they've done in attempting to destroy our country. You cannot have civil dialogue with people who propagate or willfully believe lies, and Trump is all about law-breaking and lying. there is no compromise; no recognition -- no civility. And I've said many times: If someone habitually murders the Truth, it is a call to conventional violence.
So whether or not I could possibly and successfully approach Trump or Musk with a Louisville Slugger, I contain my desires and favor Rule of Law or just keeping myself out of the slammer. I'm just determined not to be civil and nice to MAGA lunatics.
I cannot forgive what has happened. Laws were broken; lives have been disrupted. And until someone has been held formally accountable and possibly punished, I'm not offering road-side first-aid to Space-Alien GOP MAGA and their injured kids. I advocate replacing every Space-Alien MAGA with ANY . . . HUMAN . . . BEING.
The BLUES need to finish the Civil War without Lincoln's mercy. Meantime, I worry about myself every time I encounter one of those Creeps, every time I go to a sports bar and discover I'm sitting next to one. Giving someone a roundhouse smack in the face results in assault charges and jail time.
They live for the double srandard: a few protesters throwing rocks at vehicles and its a "riot", storm the Capitol and its a "peaceful demonstration"Definitely a consequence of guns in the US, but I also think this is part of a larger issue. Political violence is normalized on the right - just look at how often elected officials talk about gunning down citizens or having fantasies about beating protesters, etc. When they send signals like that unstable people hear them and are more likely to act.
This needs repeating.Republican Senator Mike Lee tweeted the following after the assassination. Since there have been no condemnations from Republican leadership or other members of Congress they must all agree with Mike Lee.
GOP senator's Minnesota assassination comments spark backlash
"This is what happens...When Marxists don't get their way," Senator Mike Lee, a Utah Republican, said on X.www.newsweek.com
Lee also write ”Nightmare on Waltz Street,”
Republican Senator Mike Lee tweeted the following after the assassination. Since there have been no condemnations from Republican leadership or other members of Congress they must all agree with Mike Lee.
GOP senator's Minnesota assassination comments spark backlash
"This is what happens...When Marxists don't get their way," Senator Mike Lee, a Utah Republican, said on X.www.newsweek.com
Lee also write ”Nightmare on Waltz Street,”
Much much simpler.What happens when "Marxists don't get their way"? WTF is he talking about?
Trying to make some sense of it, I have to conclude he's saying that if Marxists aren't allowed to run the country (and install a communist economic system?) , then socio-economic developments will be such that you'll end up with right-wing anti-abortion nuts assassinating democratically-elected (centrist) politicians?
Thus, the conclusion he presumably wants us to draw, is that it's important to put Marxists in charge of the country, so as to avert this kind of terrorism?
When he said this, it revealed his motive.What happens when "Marxists don't get their way"? WTF is he talking about?
Trying to make some sense of it, I have to conclude he's saying that if Marxists aren't allowed to run the country (and install a communist economic system?) , then socio-economic developments will be such that you'll end up with right-wing anti-abortion nuts assassinating democratically-elected (centrist) politicians?
Thus, the conclusion he presumably wants us to draw, is that it's important to put Marxists in charge of the country, so as to avert this kind of terrorism?
I've got the exact song for this:This video is quite something.
I was required a few years ago in my volunteer gig as college radio member to undergo a brief exposure to a program designed to investigate cognitive bias. Being required did rankle me because I'm wired that way, so to speak. But in the course of it I realized that I and everyone is "guilty" of cognitive bias. It's just something that makes living possible in this age. Being aware of this is extremely helpful in navigating the streams of life these days.
Part of the point is that we make snap decisions about things when we don't know enough to justify those decisions, but don't realize we are doing so.
People who do good things are Trump supporters, people who do bad things are Marxists.What happens when "Marxists don't get their way"? WTF is he talking about?
Trying to make some sense of it, I have to conclude he's saying that if Marxists aren't allowed to run the country (and install a communist economic system?) , then socio-economic developments will be such that you'll end up with right-wing anti-abortion nuts assassinating democratically-elected (centrist) politicians?
Thus, the conclusion he presumably wants us to draw, is that it's important to put Marxists in charge of the country, so as to avert this kind of terrorism?
People who do good things are Trump supporters, people who do bad things are Marxists.
Since this guy did a bad thing he is by definition a Marxist and not a Trump supporter, despite being an enthusiastic supporter of Trump, haha.
I'm not really seeing any backpedaling by the MAGA nuts saying he was a Democrat appointed by Walz, I guess once the carefully crafted tale is debunked they just move on.
On a brighter note, I saw a nice looking older couple in the large chain grocery store Friday. He had a Trump 2024 hat on. I crop-dusted him and his wife for a good 20 seconds down the dairy aisle. My wife was behind me looking at smoked string cheese, I think they thought she did it. The older woman had her nose wrinkling like a rabbit's, and he just looked disgusted. I was gong to get them again by the Greek yogurt, but my wife said no.
Put that all over the television. All the news channels.Republicans are trying to flip the narrative by claiming the No Kings protests are actually a call for violence because Trump is not a King.
Meanwhile Trump was overheard on a hot mic at his parade saying the following...
In other words, he is acting like a King/dictator while other Republicans claim he isn't.
Among the details about the suspect beginning to emerge is that he reportedly attended a bible college that is a stronghold of the New Apostolic Reformation, the charismatic movement that teaches that Christians are called to take over the US government. Founded in 1970, Christ for the Nations Institute, located in Dallas, Texas, boasts having graduated more than 40,000 students from over 170 nations. It is also the alma mater of several leaders of the NAR movement, including at least one who was involved in the lead-up to the Capitol insurrection on January 6.