Mega fury takes a darker turn

Moonbeam · 2025-06-16T15:11:55-0400

Is the trend described in this link:

https://newrepublic.com/article/196...d-hard-right-rant-maga-fury-takes-darker-turn

I wonder where all that sadistic energy came from.

It does seem like lots of people might wind up being targeted.

How worried should we be? What to do?

Where do you see this going?

Brovane · 2025-06-16T15:39:32-0400

Same theme from the WSJ.

Far-Right Groups Buzz With Violent Talk on How to Respond to ‘No Kings’ Protest

They will then try to gaslight and claim it was Democrats if there is violence. Same thing is happening with the shooter in Minnesota.

So far it seems that most protests went off without much violence except from the Police.

biostud · 2025-06-16T16:54:35-0400

"Mega fury" sounds like some kind of move from final fantasy

BonzaiDuck · 2025-06-16T17:54:30-0400

Brovane said:
Same theme from the WSJ.

Far-Right Groups Buzz With Violent Talk on How to Respond to ‘No Kings’ Protest

They will then try to gaslight and claim it was Democrats if there is violence. Same thing is happening with the shooter in Minnesota.

So far it seems that most protests went off without much violence except from the Police.

. . . And they'll tell us that the Democratic opposition doesn't really exist except for AI and PhotoShop.

Moonbeam · 2025-06-16T17:57:59-0400

Brovane said:
Same theme from the WSJ.

Far-Right Groups Buzz With Violent Talk on How to Respond to ‘No Kings’ Protest

They will then try to gaslight and claim it was Democrats if there is violence. Same thing is happening with the shooter in Minnesota.

So far it seems that most protests went off without much violence except from the Police.

So then are all these cautionary messages appearing on the internet just misguided hysteria? That is not what I see. It looks like a mass psychosis to me. As someone pointed out to me earlier in the day, you can’t go killing people soyou need to dehumanize the first. It’s easier to keep a vice like grip on political power if you can turn the opposition into monsters your supporters will be happy to exterminate as devils, no?

Moonbeam · 2025-06-16T18:17:36-0400

BonzaiDuck said:
. . . And they'll tell us that the Democratic opposition doesn't really exist except for AI and PhotoShop.

Personally I think Trump’s biggest threat and greatest fear is of his own people. He gave them permission to act with mindless violence. The urge to violence isn’t great at discriminating. To a hammer everything looks like a nail. He doesn’t have the pleasure of being surrounded by the kind and gentle souls like the ones who post here.

trenchfoot · 2025-06-16T18:50:31-0400

Pretty amazing how the down vote victims of Trump's suicidal rush toward authoritarianism are keeping deathly quiet about his and his lackey's defiant acts of rank stupidity. You'd think seeing their reelection hopes being stomped on by a narcissistic megalomaniac would cause some kind of stirring in the back rooms of their caucus. Hard to imagine how scared those Senate and House Republicans are of Elon's bottomless wallet and Trump with his trained mob of MAGAts. It seems the only lesson Trump learned from his previous stint is that the more he can rile up his base into being such hateful racist agitators and mindless stooges the more likely he is to stay in the White House and consolidate his virtual grip around the necks of our Founding Fathers and have his followers keep gobbling down those oh so comforting Blue Horse Pills.

So it's Amateur Hour at the White House again because the majority of the voters of America thought it was a really cool idea for a convicted felon and sex perv to give him another chance at really messing things up in every conceivable way possible. The Con Job of the Century occurred last year and the suckers aren't willing to admit to themselves that they got played big time so what do they do? They'd rather go along for the ride on Trump's Clown Car driving around in circles as they watch themselves getting thrown under the wheels bushels at a time thinking it's OK to get used that way because Trump was sent from the heavens and sacrificing themselves for Trump is the patriotic Christian thing to do.

Jaskalas · 2025-06-16T19:57:58-0400

Fascinating.

Trump Erupts in Crazed Hard-Right Rant as MAGA Fury Takes Darker Turn

As President Trump endorses a vile, extreme concept called “remigration,” a writer who closely tracks Trumpism explains how lawless violence and outright sadism have become central to MAGA politics.

Lawless Violence
Outright Sadism.
Have become central to MAGA.

Let that sink in and wonder. When will Moonbeam accuse us of being equally vile?
Especially if we entertain thoughts of self defense, retaliation, or preemptive action to ward off the Nazism at our door.
Violence begets violence, and America's all out of gum.

Is the topic a bait?

Moonbeam · 2025-06-17T06:03:34-0400

Jaskalas said:
Fascinating.

Trump Erupts in Crazed Hard-Right Rant as MAGA Fury Takes Darker Turn
As President Trump endorses a vile, extreme concept called “remigration,” a writer who closely tracks Trumpism explains how lawless violence and outright sadism have become central to MAGA politics.

Lawless Violence

Outright Sadism.

Have become central to MAGA.

Let that sink in and wonder. When will Moonbeam accuse us of being equally vile?
Especially if we entertain thoughts of self defense, retaliation, or preemptive action to ward off the Nazism at our door.
Violence begets violence, and America's all out of gum.

Is the topic a bait?

To clarify I think you are hoping for revolution to solve the Trump problem, but I think it will more likely be conservatives within the system that brings him down.

eelw · 2025-06-17T07:38:41-0400

Well not like us non MAGAtards don’t want to round all of them up and turn Florida into a penal colony

Greenman · 2025-06-17T07:55:14-0400

Moonbeam said:
Is the trend described in this link:

https://newrepublic.com/article/196...d-hard-right-rant-maga-fury-takes-darker-turn

I wonder where all that sadistic energy came from.

It does seem like lots of people might wind up being targeted.

How worried should we be? What to do?

Where do you see this going?

The article pivots on a single word, if you follow the link to the TS post where it originated the goal is clearly explained. It's exactly what Trump promised to do if he was elected. It's a direct reaction to the borders being flooded with immigrants who were waved through with a nod and a smile.
The simple reality is that Trump is an overreaction to a situation that was allowed to go to far.

K1052 · 2025-06-17T08:17:45-0400

Greenman said:
The article pivots on a single word, if you follow the link to the TS post where it originated the goal is clearly explained. It's exactly what Trump promised to do if he was elected. It's a direct reaction to the borders being flooded with immigrants who were waved through with a nod and a smile.
The simple reality is that Trump is an overreaction to a situation that was allowed to go to far.

What we are witnessing is classic thermostatic public opinion change when the electorate sees actual policy implemented instead of just words. Or in Trump's case what they imagined would happen vs reality, as median voters hallucinated it. The harsher and more randomly cruel the deportation effort becomes the more it will lose support. The proliferation of anonymous government goon squads that cannot be distinguished from criminal activity is another burgeoning problem.

outriding · 2025-06-17T09:10:04-0400

K1052 said:
What we are witnessing is classic thermostatic public opinion change when the electorate sees actual policy implemented instead of just words. Or in Trump's case what they imagined would happen vs reality, as median voters hallucinated it. The harsher and more randomly cruel the deportation effort becomes the more it will lose support. The proliferation of anonymous government goon squads that cannot be distinguished from criminal activity is another burgeoning problem.

it is fucking bizarre..

trump does what he says and people are surprised..

but when democrat promises better health care (ACA), cleaner water / air /etc, social programs (SNAP, free school lunches) and the right get pissed off.

fuck people who vote for the GOP..

pete6032 · 2025-06-17T10:12:21-0400

WTF is wrong with these people.

https://archive.ph/sqRZW

Greenman · 2025-06-17T10:27:42-0400

K1052 said:
What we are witnessing is classic thermostatic public opinion change when the electorate sees actual policy implemented instead of just words. Or in Trump's case what they imagined would happen vs reality, as median voters hallucinated it. The harsher and more randomly cruel the deportation effort becomes the more it will lose support. The proliferation of anonymous government goon squads that cannot be distinguished from criminal activity is another burgeoning problem.

There is clearly some of that happening, but it appears to be limited.
Obviously the people that are in the country illegally aren't going to line up at the immigration office to be deported. Someone has to go get them, and the numbers involved almost guarantee that there will be mistakes. That also leads to an approach that favors maximum results with minimum effort.
We've been setting up this disaster for years with border policy that was at best questionable, so there was never any doubt it was going to be a clusterfuck if it was ever addressed. Now it's being addressed and it isn't pleasant or pretty. While I don't like that, I don't see how it could be anything but an extremely traumatic experience.

K1052 · 2025-06-17T10:33:49-0400

Greenman said:
There is clearly some of that happening, but it appears to be limited.
Obviously the people that are in the country illegally aren't going to line up at the immigration office to be deported. Someone has to go get them, and the numbers involved almost guarantee that there will be mistakes. That also leads to an approach that favors maximum results with minimum effort.
We've been setting up this disaster for years with border policy that was at best questionable, so there was never any doubt it was going to be a clusterfuck if it was ever addressed. Now it's being addressed and it isn't pleasant or pretty. While I don't like that, I don't see how it could be anything but an extremely traumatic experience.

Republican refusal to actually pass any legislation to address immigration in a fair (to the actual views of the electorate) and orderly manner is what's landed us at this point. Trump is just creating his own brand of disorder which they are recoiling from now too. When you get into the nuts and bolts of what's actually happening voters time and again dislike it by huge margins.

pete6032 · 2025-06-17T10:37:09-0400

Greenman said:
We've been setting up this disaster for years with border policy that was at best questionable, so there was never any doubt it was going to be a clusterfuck if it was ever addressed.

Which border policies do you think were questionable?

fskimospy · 2025-06-17T10:43:06-0400

K1052 said:
Republican refusal to actually pass any legislation to address immigration in a fair (to the actual views of the electorate) and orderly manner is what's landed us at this point. Trump is just creating his own brand of disorder which they are recoiling from now too. When you get into the nuts and bolts of what's actually happening voters time and again dislike it by huge margins.

It's because Republicans, right wing media, and to some extent regular media conjured up this idea of a country filled with criminal illegal aliens when really most undocumented people just go to work and are normal members of the community.

It sort of reminds me of a similar distorting effect when it comes to public education and the economy. When polled people often say the economy or public schools are terrible overall but rate their personal experiences well. The only plausible way that works is if they are getting negative external cues.

outriding · 2025-06-17T10:49:10-0400

Greenman said:
There is clearly some of that happening, but it appears to be limited.
Obviously the people that are in the country illegally aren't going to line up at the immigration office to be deported. Someone has to go get them, and the numbers involved almost guarantee that there will be mistakes. That also leads to an approach that favors maximum results with minimum effort.
We've been setting up this disaster for years with border policy that was at best questionable, so there was never any doubt it was going to be a clusterfuck if it was ever addressed. Now it's being addressed and it isn't pleasant or pretty. While I don't like that, I don't see how it could be anything but an extremely traumatic experience.

and why would you think trump is the person do fix this issue?

his companies have been caught hiring illegals..

all this is just nothing more than political theater and nothing will be done about it and it will just paint the dems as a bad person not doing anything and you eat it up

this is nothing more than comfort food

fskimospy · 2025-06-17T10:56:52-0400

K1052 said:
Republican refusal to actually pass any legislation to address immigration in a fair (to the actual views of the electorate) and orderly manner is what's landed us at this point. Trump is just creating his own brand of disorder which they are recoiling from now too. When you get into the nuts and bolts of what's actually happening voters time and again dislike it by huge margins.

It's also not like Republicans were particularly coy about this being their strategy. They came out and said they didn't want to fix the border so they could use it to campaign on!

Jaskalas · 2025-06-17T11:00:13-0400

Moonbeam said:
To clarify I think you are hoping for revolution to solve the Trump problem, but I think it will more likely be conservatives within the system that brings him down.

I look to World War 2 as an example for how Nazism ends.
And it wasn't through Nazis deciding Hitler was bad.
It took external, violent, force. A great amount of it.

I'll reiterate, I don't want it to come to that. I will not fire the first shot. But I cannot see a viable alternative future.
Not about to pin my hopes on MAGA, who cheer on their gunman killing Democrats. Or deny he even existed.
Those people are not going to save us, they exist to harm us in every way they can. That's why I call them Nazi.

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