Japan Trip

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Looks like you had a great trip. Here's my biased hot take from someone who's traveled to Japan 4 times a year for 16 years. Avoid Kyoto and go anywhere else, kamakura is a great alternative to get your temple fix in. I took my wife to Kyoto for as a first time jp visitor one time and we had a miserable time doing the tourist thing in Kyoto because the lines were ridiculous for everything. I felt like it was a waste of 2 days. I also understand that not many people would take my advice esp if they don't go to Japan that often, since it's usually a once in a lifetime type of trip for many. But I feel that you can get the same feel for the temples in alot of other cities while avoiding crowds. I just really hated the damn crowds

Also, I wish I had done this sooner but bring back more car parts than I had. Lol
 

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Looks like you had a great trip. Here's my biased hot take from someone who's traveled to Japan 4 times a year for 16 years. Avoid Kyoto and go anywhere else, kamakura is a great alternative to get your temple fix in. I took my wife to Kyoto for as a first time jp visitor one time and we had a miserable time doing the tourist thing in Kyoto because the lines were ridiculous for everything. I felt like it was a waste of 2 days. I also understand that not many people would take my advice esp if they don't go to Japan that often, since it's usually a once in a lifetime type of trip for many. But I feel that you can get the same feel for the temples in alot of other cities while avoiding crowds. I just really hated the damn crowds

Also, I wish I had done this sooner but bring back more car parts than I had. Lol
Kamakura as a day trip was originally on the list, but we decided to spend that day to go to Costco instead .

Back home we never spend more than 45 minutes shopping and eating at Costco, but there the wife spent a good old two hours 'browsing' cloths and other stuffs, then we sat down and ate for an hour.. slowly not non-stop eating!

She and the kid still think that was half a day well spent. Who am i to argue with? 🤷‍♂️
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Looks like you had a great trip. Here's my biased hot take from someone who's traveled to Japan 4 times a year for 16 years. Avoid Kyoto and go anywhere else, kamakura is a great alternative to get your temple fix in. I took my wife to Kyoto for as a first time jp visitor one time and we had a miserable time doing the tourist thing in Kyoto because the lines were ridiculous for everything. I felt like it was a waste of 2 days. I also understand that not many people would take my advice esp if they don't go to Japan that often, since it's usually a once in a lifetime type of trip for many. But I feel that you can get the same feel for the temples in alot of other cities while avoiding crowds. I just really hated the damn crowds

Also, I wish I had done this sooner but bring back more car parts than I had. Lol

-NGL here in June Kyoto wasn't bad. It was downright sleepy compared to Tokyo.

Tokyo... Kinda sucks ngl. Crowded, hot as fuck (95F and 80% humidity today), and not even particularly cheap compared to Kyoto and some other smaller towns.

I mean it's still a cool place to visit, but I've kinda been underwhelmed by everything since seeing Kyoto/Osaka etc. It's like a worse version of both sort of mushed together.
 
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-NGL here in June Kyoto wasn't bad. It was downright sleepy compared to Tokyo.

Tokyo... Kinda sucks ngl. Crowded, hot as fuck (95F and 80% humidity today), and not even particularly cheap compared to Kyoto and some other smaller towns.

I mean it's still a cool place to visit, but I've kinda been underwhelmed by everything since seeing Kyoto/Osaka etc. It's like a worse version of both sort of mushed together.
Anywhere tourist oriented is going to be pricy. and anywhere is fucking hot in japan in the summer until pretty much october lol. i remember having to go back to my hotel to take a shower in the middle of the day when i was in kyoto one time.

Tokyo is very expensive especially if you're in the core districts. Osaka is great, i think when i go with my family in a few years I would pick one or the other but prob not both. probably osaka, since it has the universal studios and my kids are obsessed with super mario at the moment. pretty much similar shopping experiences too.
 
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Looks like you had a great trip. Here's my biased hot take from someone who's traveled to Japan 4 times a year for 16 years. Avoid Kyoto and go anywhere else, kamakura is a great alternative to get your temple fix in. I took my wife to Kyoto for as a first time jp visitor one time and we had a miserable time doing the tourist thing in Kyoto because the lines were ridiculous for everything. I felt like it was a waste of 2 days. I also understand that not many people would take my advice esp if they don't go to Japan that often, since it's usually a once in a lifetime type of trip for many. But I feel that you can get the same feel for the temples in alot of other cities while avoiding crowds. I just really hated the damn crowds

Also, I wish I had done this sooner but bring back more car parts than I had. Lol
Funny, we loved Kyoto. However, for many of the temples and shrines, we got an early start, which avoided a lot of the crowds. And other areas of Kyoto (Imperial Gardens, Nijo Castle) didn't have much in the way of lines or crowds.
 
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Funny, we loved Kyoto. However, for many of the temples and shrines, we got an early start, which avoided a lot of the crowds. And other areas of Kyoto (Imperial Gardens, Nijo Castle) didn't have much in the way of lines or crowds.
Yeah, i guess I did really enjoy it too more often than not in general. It was the one time i went with my wife it was such a shitty experience (i'm talking about shuffling up to fushimi inari, not being able to see anything but people in front of you) and i can only imagine it's gotten even more crowded. Btw, My favorite temple there is nanzen ji, love the aqueducts they have there.
 
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Yeah, i guess I did really enjoy it too more often than not in general. It was the one time i went with my wife it was such a shitty experience (i'm talking about shuffling up to fushimi inari, not being able to see anything but people in front of you) and i can only imagine it's gotten even more crowded. Btw, My favorite temple there is nanzen ji, love the aqueducts they have there.
Nanzen Ji was awesome. We were there on our last Kyoto day in the early morning. Few people and very peaceful at that time. We then walked north along the Philosopher's Path to check out a few more shrines and temples
 
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-Okonomiyaki is a staple at our house, but not the Hiroshima style with the noodz. We missed it this round but we'll make it at home a few times and then have it again on our next trip out here.
When I was a kid my grandmother made the Osaka style too, but after trying Hiroshima style there was no going back for me lol
 
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