Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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eek2121

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marees

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So a 3nm equivalent of strix point (using zen 5 & rdna 5 ?)

& what about future steam deck 2 & rog xbox ally 2 etc. ?

Quietly in the background, plausible technical specifications for Sony's next generation handheld have come to light. Bearing in mind that we're likely years away from release, the plausibility of these specs has to be questioned but at the same time, the source of the leak - KeplerL2 - has proven to be a highly reliable source for all sorts of AMD information. He was also first to corroborate the PlayStation 5 Pro spec leaks and his information turned out to be very, very close to what we received as final hardware.

 

inquiss

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RDNA 3.5 is outdated. STX used it bc it had to not by choice

makes zero sense if any new zen6 high-end gaming-oriented APU uses rdna3.5

i.e. z3 extreme will 100% be next gen
What makes you think z3 extreme exists?

Most APUs are not high end gaming oriented, just Halo. I think Halo will have better IP, but everything else just gets paired with a graphics card. So I can sort of see them not bothering, but also wouldn't be surprised if they updated it. I don't think it matters that much.
 

fastandfurious6

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z3 extreme = the next AMD APU for top-end handheld

whatever its final market name ends up being

late 2026 is very reasonable timeframe for UDNA / RDNA5 release

also given its pending VERY HIGH demand, many first months of production will be 100% for clients like Sony etc before any chip becomes available directly to consumers
 

Joe NYC

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Nope, it's a fact. Go look at the noise levels and battery life in any review of a Range laptop. You're buying a partially 6nm MCM monstrosity with high pj/b interconnects in 2025 for $$$$. Not a mobile part at all. Even if you're tuning it's still a Zen 5 desktop part forced where it hardly belongs.

DTR is a niche. Hawk, Strix and Kraken are the mobile volume parts and you're talking about niche desktops with batteries killing niche desktops because it's all you can buy as a gamer kid.

And the best actually mobile part AMD makes - Strix Halo - is closer in 1T and nT to the 7900X than the 9950X3D.

HP Strix Halo Mini PC is now shipping. I hope somebody reviews it using higher power limit that laptop / tablets.
 

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Joe NYC

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It’s more expensive than a Mac Studio. I get this is for businesses but when you are more expensive on an older node is something. geez to have more margins than Apple is crazy.

Its showing out of stock.

B+H in NYC has the low-end model available.

Or more precisely "had" them available when I checked earlier. Now this model (as with others listed) is also on pre-order.

 
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StefanR5R

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Apparently the new rumored AM5 models are going to be just going to be Raphael and Granite Ridge with the IGP disabled.
For what it's worth, when AMD introduced Ryzen 5 7400F and 7500F, they did not change the CPUID relative to non-F Raphaels, e.g. Ryzen 5 7600.
 

fastandfurious6

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tbh xbox never made sense lol just desperate attempt from MS to have foot on gaming market lolllll

I guess zen5 kinda makes sense for them to aim for prev gen they shouldn't be concerned with cream of crop bc they cant reach it 😂

ok offtopic end~!!!! I'll post my new 9955HX3D results soon
 

branch_suggestion

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tbh xbox never made sense lol just desperate attempt from MS to have foot on gaming market lolllll
The 360 literally won and then they went full Microsoft.
Forcing all sorts of things to force a corpo agenda that completely went against what made the 360 so neat.
Guess who made the natural successor to the 360? Sony did and won over 360 owners. Xbox has never recovered because they cannot ship any first party titles to save their lives.
Having killer IP handed over to nepobabies with a blank cheque and no oversight from the IP custodians because you were too cheap to let them do other projects.
Gods, it makes me sad as a PS1-PS2-360 guy, completely left it behind for PC.
In a way Don Mattrick is why I'm on this Mongolian basket weaving forum.
 
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