Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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rommelrommel

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LOL they have been trying to get the technology working for 20 years. They still can’t.

And to say they have not put ‘effort into it’ because they didn’t see a ‘role for it’ is pure copium.

The Russians and Iranians have missiles that are basically unstoppable, but SOMEHOW the US didn’t think the important enough to have the same capabilities?

😂

And if the US didn’t see a role for them, what exactly has changed that has gotten them trying(and failing) to get them working these days? Probably doesn’t have anything to do with China/Iran/Russia having access to them right?

Stop coping bud. Truth is they just don’t have the expertise and should just ask to buy some from Putin. He may be able to sell us a few if we ask him nicely.

I guess you missed New START falling apart, Russia basically ignoring the terms for years before it did, and China acting much more aggressively.

I guess you also missed Khinzal intercepts with PAC-3 and Ukrainian crews. There was even a Zircon intercept iirc.

I guess you also missed Arrow and THAAD intercepts.

I guess you also only have a RT/Fox understanding of hypersonics and don't know that long range ballistic missiles tend to be hypersonic by virtue of how fast they have to go to get high enough to be long range. This is what Iran might have, although there's been no proof of true maneuvering hypersonics.
 

bononos

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The war continues apace. Only thing that'll keep Ukraine alive is if Russia's war machine collapses.
But attrition favors the larger force. Which leaves the question... whether we are doing enough to change that eventual outcome.
In my mind, we have NEVER done enough for the war in Europe.

Russia pushes deeper into Sumy Oblast, turning buffer zone into new front

The Russian war machine isn't collapsing or at last fast enough for Ukraine to win the war. They aren't running out of men, tanks, drones or foreign reserves and their ruble isn't collapsing. Ukraine is now in a crisis, losing ground on all 3 fronts, no artllery or shells and forced to use fpv drones, lost most of their M1 tanks and I think they don't have a plan except to hold on.
 
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RnR_au

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I think they don't have a plan except to hold on.
Thats always been their plan. Russia has to make the decision to vacate the battle ground. The only way you can do this is via economic pressure.

Ukraine have been treating Russia's energy infrastructure with kid gloves recently, apparently at the request of Trump. But I think those gloves are about to come off and their oil facility targeting is about to be recommence.
 
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A terrible night in Ukraine due to another attack by Russian terrorists. More than 440 drones and 32 missiles. One of the most terrifying strikes on Kyiv destroyed an entire section.

Russians killed 14 people. Among them is a 62-year-old U.S. citizen. As of now, 99 people are injured in Kyiv. Another 6 were wounded in the Odesa region, and 1 person was injured each in Kyiv and Chernihiv regions.
 

fskimospy

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LOL they have been trying to get the technology working for 20 years. They still can’t.

And to say they have not put ‘effort into it’ because they didn’t see a ‘role for it’ is pure copium.

The Russians and Iranians have missiles that are basically unstoppable, but SOMEHOW the US didn’t think the important enough to have the same capabilities?

😂

And if the US didn’t see a role for them, what exactly has changed that has gotten them trying(and failing) to get them working these days? Probably doesn’t have anything to do with China/Iran/Russia having access to them right?

Stop coping bud. Truth is they just don’t have the expertise and should just ask to buy some from Putin. He may be able to sell us a few if we ask him nicely.
Ah yes, those famously unstoppable systems like the T-14 where it was the greatest tank in the world until they tried to use it as a tank and realized it's a piece of shit, lol.
 
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K1052

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Ah yes, those famously unstoppable systems like the T-14 where it was the greatest tank in the world until they tried to use it as a tank and realized it's a piece of shit, lol.

Nuclear powered Burevestnik cruise missile exploding on its test stand killing five scientists, Kinzhal missile performance so enormously overpromised resulting in those scientists going to prison once Patriot started downing them, Sarmat test resulted in it destroying it's own launch silo, etc.
 

fskimospy

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Nuclear powered Burevestnik cruise missile exploding on its test stand killing five scientists, Kinzhal missile performance so enormously overpromised resulting in those scientists going to prison once Patriot started downing them, Sarmat test resulted in it destroying it's own launch silo, etc.
Rest assured THIS time Russia isn't full of shit though!
 

kage69

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Ukraine is now in a crisis, losing ground on all 3 fronts, no artllery or shells and forced to use fpv drones, lost most of their M1 tanks and I think they don't have a plan except to hold on.


Citation needed there I think. There is no shortage of artillery shells far as I know. The use of drones over artillery is by choice. They have plenty of them and they are more flexible, with better range and accuracy than artillery. It's why drone operators are the highest value battlefield targets right now, moreso than artillery, snipers or logistics.

The ground taken is minimal, just part of the ebb and flow of a stalemate. Same for the advances Ukraine has made in Kursk.

Uh, Ukraine just kneecapped the Russians in a ground breaking historic attack, with no losses. Not the first time either. If you don't think Ukraine has plans then I don't think you've been paying attention.
 
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In fairness though everything about Russia being kicked out of the G8 Trump was wrong about. They were kicked out specifically for taking over Crimea. Not sure how the invasion would have been prevented by keeping them in the G8. It happened before Trudeau was Prime Minister, not while. It was just his usual blind ranting he just expects people to accept and agree with. Not sure why he thinks the rest of the world will go along with his bullshit.
 

kage69

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A terrible night in Ukraine due to another attack by Russian terrorists. More than 440 drones and 32 missiles. One of the most terrifying strikes on Kyiv destroyed an entire section.

Russians killed 14 people. Among them is a 62-year-old U.S. citizen. As of now, 99 people are injured in Kyiv. Another 6 were wounded in the Odesa region, and 1 person was injured each in Kyiv and Chernihiv regions.


Attacking a city full of civilians with cluster munitions; another day, another crime against humanity by Russian butchers. Meanwhile, cyka pisses himself with glee over the speed of the Iskanders killing the innocent.

Show me a Putin cheerleader and I'll show you a pissant as pathetic as he is revolting.

Heroyam slava to those who shot down so many drones and missiles and prevented the losses from being worse. Ukrainian AD work their asses off.
 
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kage69

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This is his way of dealing with Putin's fear of a muscled up Europe, also losing crucial allies. It's less uncomfortable to pretend Russia has all the time in the world, and that only the US can save Ukraine.

Anyway, he's kept his head buried in his ass for 1,209 days so far. I don't think he's coming out.





In other more important news... Almost there!

The 1.5mil Sky Sentinel Fundraiser by United24 has collected $1,451,625,272 so far. We get this done and it could make a huge difference for Ukrainians at risk from drone attacks. C'mon. I guarantee helping with "AI-controlled air defense turrets" will be the coolest thing you've invested in all day

Please donate if you can!

 
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fskimospy

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It’s over for Zelensky. This tweet pretty much sums it up:

Uh oh guys, it's over for Zelenskyy!!! We know this is true because we're hearing it from this genius who predicted the collapse of Ukraine in three months... back in November of 2023.

LOL.

 

Young Grasshopper

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dainthomas

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Unrelated but the Kuz made an appearance in the new mission impossible movie and the rear admiral in charge of the US carrier group pretended to be very afraid of it. I almost burst out laughing. Sorta novel to see it underway though and not looking like an erupting volcano.

That rusting decrepit hulk not only leaving the pier, but making it all the way to the Pacific without a fleet of tugboats surrounding it was the least believable part of the movie.

Was hoping they'd show it randomly catch fire, but at least it was surrounded by its signature cloud of greasy black smoke.
 
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