Who Do You Dislike More Than Tucker Carlson?

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Cruz is right (can't believe I'm saying this) about the population of Iran not mattering in the context of the discussion. Whether it's 90M or 50M or 200M, the current issue would be the same no matter which is true.

Everything after that is just two hyenas screeching at each other.
 
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fskimospy

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Cruz is right (can't believe I'm saying this) about the population of Iran not mattering in the context of the discussion. Whether it's 90M or 50M or 200M, the current issue would be the same no matter which is true.

Everything after that is just two hyenas screeching at each other.
Carlson has a good point though that Cruz seems to know almost nothing about a country he's looking to invade. It is frankly shameful that he's the one asking these questions and not real journalists.

That being said his motive for doing so is most likely to support Russia's interests because, well, he's a Russian asset.
 

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Cruz is right (can't believe I'm saying this) about the population of Iran not mattering in the context of the discussion. Whether it's 90M or 50M or 200M, the current issue would be the same no matter which is true.

Everything after that is just two hyenas screeching at each other.

Knowing next to nothing about the middle eastern county you want to regime change is, more broadly, the continually recurring problem of US intervention in the region.
 

K1052

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Carlson has a good point though that Cruz seems to know almost nothing about a country he's looking to invade. It is frankly shameful that he's the one asking these questions and not real journalists.

That being said his motive for doing so is most likely to support Russia's interests because, well, he's a Russian asset.

Mainstream journalists not asking the simplest most basic questions about the realities of what the hawks are proposing and instead having pundits only bat around the domestic political question shows they have learned less than nothing in the last 20 years. In fact they seem to have regressed substantially.
 

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Mainstream journalists not asking the simplest most basic questions about the realities of what the hawks are proposing and instead having pundits only bat around the domestic political question shows they have learned less than nothing in the last 20 years. In fact they seem to have regressed substantially.
There has been a VERY serious regression, I agree. As per Jon Stewart's long standing criticism the goal of modern journalism is to find conflict and write about how people are arguing, not to inform their audience or examine issues.

While Cruz is not a good interviewer Carlson also did something here that mainstream journalists almost never do, which is he didn't allow Cruz to ignore the question. I couldn't possibly count how many times a mainstream journalist has asked someone an important question and then when they bullshit around it just surrender and move on.
 

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There has been a VERY serious regression, I agree. As per Jon Stewart's long standing criticism the goal of modern journalism is to find conflict and write about how people are arguing, not to inform their audience or examine issues.

While Cruz is not a good interviewer Carlson also did something here that mainstream journalists almost never do, which is he didn't allow Cruz to ignore the question. I couldn't possibly count how many times a mainstream journalist has asked someone an important question and then when they bullshit around it just surrender and move on.

Yes the total lack of follow up and holding somebody to a question and not moving on is epidemic even if the interviewee says something absolutely you should be in a rubber room insane.
 

fskimospy

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Yes the total lack of follow up and holding somebody to a question and not moving on is epidemic even if the interviewee says something absolutely you should be in a rubber room insane.
The sentiment seems to be that if you keep asking that same question they will either end the interview or keep repeating a non-answer, in which case you won't be able to talk about anything else.

To be clear if that IS the sentiment, that sentiment is extremely, EXTREMELY stupid because what that actually does is tell interview subjects that they don't need to answer any difficult questions. Like - let them bullshit over and over - let them quit the interview! Those are both newsworthy events!
 

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Carlson has a good point though that Cruz seems to know almost nothing about a country he's looking to invade. It is frankly shameful that he's the one asking these questions and not real journalists.

That being said his motive for doing so is most likely to support Russia's interests because, well, he's a Russian asset.
Agree in general.

I tend to think Cruz doesn't know much about anything except podcasting and being a troll. In this case though, we didn't really get to see much of that for ourselves as Tucker appeared to be more interested in just talking over whatever it was that Cruz was frustratingly trying to spit out. He did manage to squeeze out that it's a Persian/Shia country which is actually correct. It looked worse than it actually was, likely because Cruz isn't used to this level of pressure or follow up from whoever has been throwing him softballs for the last decade.

They can both eat shit though.
 
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fskimospy

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Agree in general.

I tend to think Cruz doesn't know much about anything except podcasting and being a troll. In this case though, we didn't really get to see much of that for ourselves as Tucker appeared to be more interested in just talking over whatever it was that Cruz was frustratingly trying to spit out. He did manage to squeeze out that it's a Persian/Shia country which is actually correct. It looked worse than it actually was, likely because Cruz isn't used to this level of pressure or follow up from whoever has been throwing him softballs for the last decade.

They can both eat shit though.
I agree - I think one underappreciated reason why Republicans have so much difficulty governing is that almost no one in the party has any real policy knowledge as they are, as you say, just basically trolls. Being able to legislate is simply not a relevant qualification for being a Republican legislator.

Yes though, fully endorse a human centipede situation for those two.
 
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Is this relevant? Seems like maybe it could be relevant, but I'm not an expert.

Perhaps Qatar’s biggest victory in its post-election right-wing media campaign thus far was securing an interview between Tucker Carlson and Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani in March. The interview, which has raked up nearly six million views across X and YouTube, was friendly, with Carlson praising the country.

Qatar paid top dollar to ensure this interview took place. Foreign Agents Registration Act records show that Lumen8 Advisors LLC, a legal consulting company for which very little public information is available, helped facilitate between Carlson and the Qatari dignitary. The Embassy of the State of Qatar pays Lumen8 Advisors $180,000 per month “to provide media and communication coaching and consulting services.”

 

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Mainstream journalists not asking the simplest most basic questions about the realities of what the hawks are proposing and instead having pundits only bat around the domestic political question shows they have learned less than nothing in the last 20 years. In fact they seem to have regressed substantially.
It's a harsh reality being underpinned by this absence.
The United States has no journalism. Not any more.

The entire field, the integral social fabric to fact check and maintain a core pillar of Democracy. It no longer exists in any meaningful form.
 
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How would you make money selling ads if you upset your target audience by badgering people. Name recognition goes hand in hand with income. Everything is about money and reputation so everyone feels the temptation to be co-opted and swim down stream bottom feeding along the way. Alternatively, with a name and a media outlet you can earn a living as a hit man for the highest bidder.

Everyone wants to listen only to that which flatters their egos making them feel self important, so with the rise of the internet it is possible to hear with great selectivity. We even have a button here for people suffering victim mentality to put people on ignore. The capacity to tune out has fragmented the media and opened the door cater to the sickest forms of emotional need. You need money to survive and money makes the worthless feel success.
 
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