It'll be worse in high multi-threaded applications, and also the P cores are super power hungry. Look at Anandtech's 12900K review. The 8E cores allow great increase at relatively small power increase, because the extra cores allow the P cores to downclock and be more power efficient.It probably beats 14900K as the 4 e-core clusters of 4 e-cores each are slightly larger than 4 extra P cores in their place and slightly more power hungry are they not?? Only reason Intel went with e-cores is because they are more space efficient per multi threading performance and perform better for apps that scale up to tons and tons or even infinite threads than putting 1 P core in same amount of space.
Interesting thought, considering FCLGA1700 Barlett Lake was launched just about the same timeframe as LGA1851 Arrow Lake. Quite impressive for Intel to know the Arrow Lake sales and suddenly change the socket for Bartlett Lake despite rumors for years of LGA1700.I'm guessing that these processors are going to get released for LGA1700 because the Arrow Lake LGA1851 socket sales are rather underwhelming and there is still such a large LGA1700 install base that Intel is looking for a quick revenue boost this year?
Yea, where are the high core count Bartlet Lake processors? With the hardware escalation for new games, six core processors with relatively low clockspeed are a no go IMO. Hell, BL4 (not known as cutting edge graphics) has an 8 core cpu (albeit older w/o hyperthreading) as the minimum requirement.Yeah this Core 5 120F has no e cores and looks most likely an Alder Lake Core i5 12400F with 200MHz boosted clocks and same amounts of cache. I dont think its Raptor Cove or Bartlett Lake architecture.
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From what I have gathered elsewhere they should be announced relatively soon, possibly next month at the start of Q3. There is suppose to be a Core 5 with 8 cores, a Core 7 with 10 cores and a Core 9 with 12 cores all with P cores only and no e-cores. This Core 5 120F is obviously the entry level with no integrated graphics. The Bartlett Lake CPU are suppose to still use Raptor Cove architecture just without the E cores. They should probably be released before end of Q3 back to school season in September if not earlier.Yea, where are the high core count Bartlet Lake processors? With the hardware escalation for new games, six core processors with relatively low clockspeed are a no go IMO. Hell, BL4 (not known as cutting edge graphics) has an 8 core cpu (albeit older w/o hyperthreading) as the minimum requirement.
Well, most Intel platforms are dead very quickly anyway. Maybe this one got 3 days and a half longer ?My hot take wait till late 2026 and do NOT get this. Intel 7 in Q3/Q4 2025 is very bad.
Zen 6 with a 12 core on one chiplet will release on N2 in late 2026. It WILL demolish this. If you NEED a computer now just get a Zen 5 PC and upgrade your PC via a CPU upgrade to Zen 6.
TLDR: why waste money in a dead platform?
Why not get Zen5 X3D?This LGA1700 Bartlett Lake looks like a nice holdover until 2026 for those of us who want to upgrade in the meantime.
New MB+CPU if you wanna buy new better wait for NVL/Zen 6 to decideWhy not get Zen5 X3D?
120F only supports DDR5 according to Intel slide. Why wouldn't Intel want people with DDR4 mobos to upgrade to this CPU (like from Core i3) unless it's a reworked die with only a DDR5 memory controller? So if they went to the trouble of creating a whole new die for this budget chip, why not create a larger chip too?
120F only supports DDR5 according to Intel slide. Why wouldn't Intel want people with DDR4 mobos to upgrade to this CPU (like from Core i3) unless it's a reworked die with only a DDR5 memory controller? So if they went to the trouble of creating a whole new die for this budget chip, why not create a larger chip too?
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I think Bartlett Lake existing stuff just uses the existing dies. Or maybe they created new stepping of the same 8 +16 die and 6 + 0 dies which is easier than creating a whole new die that is different??
The point of doing the 12 core die is primarily for Xeon E.
We'll see if they re-enable AVX-512.
I think you hit the jackpot: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...cessor-18m-cache-3-30-ghz/specifications.htmlThe point of doing the 12 core die is primarily for Xeon E.
They are dumb tbh if they don't enable AVX-512 on XeonsI think you hit the jackpot: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...cessor-18m-cache-3-30-ghz/specifications.html
The 120F could be discarded E2456 dies that didn't meet the Xeon binning requirements.
Unfortunately, this will probably rule out AVX-512 though I hope they aren't this dumb again.
Is Xeon E for entry level servers?
In such case seems unlikely there will be an unlocked version as Xeon E CPUs are locked. Hope to be wrong though.
or seen any E model working on a regular consumer motherboard?
That was not the question. The question was if any of THIS list of Processors (Or any E for that matter) works on consumer motherboards.P13R-M/10G-2T
ASUS P13R-M/10G-2T is an Intel® Xeon® E-2400 LGA 1700 micro-ATX server motherboard with support for four DDR5 ECC UDIMM and one M.2 slot, plus dual port LAN, four SATA, one PCIe® 5.0 slot and one PCIe 4.0 slot, three USB 3.2 Gen 2, Platform Firmware Resilience (PFR) and on-board ASUS ASMB11-iKVM.servers.asus.com
The plain G7400 is working in there so most likely consumer BIOS exclude support for the Xeon models, on Intel's instructions most likely. Pretty slimy move where a mere Pentium can support ECC RAM but then you gotta go and spend the big bucks for an expensive Raptor Lake renamed as a Xeon and even the KS CPUs are not supported in the expensive server mobo.
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