adroc_thurston
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That thing never reached product design stage.They cancelled MTL-S
That thing never reached product design stage.They cancelled MTL-S
🤔... to at least push the halo part to greater than 10% IPC (through frequency gain ...
Seriously, textbooks will be written on how Pat fumbled the whole thing. He had complete control. Kept making grave mistakes. Over and over. His problem is that he didn't take much interest in engineering matters. Left it up to the fools. The same fools who came up with Rocket Lake and then Raptor Lake. I wouldn't be surprised if disabling AVX-512 was Pat's decision and it was made in a desperate attempt to upsell the Xeon W CPUs which are still priced extremely high. Intel had no interest in making money. Just wanted to keep up appearances of being their former self. A technology leader. Without any technical leadership.
My mistake. I probably meant to say something other than IPC but can't think of it.🤔
Is nobody going to tell him?
They're not dead.No wonder this company is dead
Oh no, Intel should be ahead.Like seriously AMD will lap them easily in nT too with less cores.
Ahead in which metrics?They're not dead.
Oh no, Intel should be ahead.
Cinememe 2024 nT.Ahead in which metrics?
There's no way Zen6 is <60% MTCinememe 2024 nT.
Remember that Cinememe2024 has hitlertastic hatred for AMD cores (relative to R23).There's no way Zen6 is <60% MT
That's the only thing it could've ever won.Wow, such leadership
lets hope its an early estimate. They can improve the the P core, it won't launch for another 18 months.Intel seems to have created garbage with TSMC N2
The idea that using TSMC's process can improve is a silly idea.
The problem is to devise what kind of cooking can be done to provide an excellent CPU while using the TSMC process.
The ARL-S leak turned out pretty accurate https://www.igorslab.de/en/intels-i...n-for-raptor-lake-s-refresh-and-arrow-lake-s/lets hope its an early estimate. They can improve the the P core, it won't launch for another 18 months.
Gaming you have to account for bLLC options and idk the L3 perf on NVL.Gaming ~5% faster than 9800X3D, well behind Z6X3D.
Regular NVL-S isn't getting anywhere near 9800X3D gaming perf, and bLLC is very TBD considering how garbage their current L3 is.So lets make some estimates for NVL-S perf.
Gaming ~5% faster than 9800X3D, well behind Z6X3D.
1T, ~3900 GB6.4 vs ~4k+ Z6
nT, ~4k CB24 vs ~3750 Z6 24c (nearly Intel best case, AMD wins in anything FP heavy)
Not good famalam, considering this is an iso-node showdown.
I already did, that is my bLLC estimate.Gaming you have to account for bLLC options and idk the L3 perf on NVL.
That is bLLC estimate, vanilla is getting crushed still of course.Regular NVL-S isn't getting anywhere near 9800X3D gaming perf, and bLLC is very TBD considering how garbage their current L3 is.
EMR was like 5M@stop and purportedly decent.Without hybrid bonding it is hard to see them beat a similarly powerful core in extended L3 apps like gaming.