Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

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amenx

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I dont trust these skunks. Schumer and Nadler, most pro-Israel democrats endorse Mamdani. I think they are trying to ride the wave of enthusiasm for him knowing that the powers that be, smear media, lobby will defeat him in the end.

 
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Fenixgoon

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Agreed, the existing democratic party needs to die a fiery death and a new progressive party needs to take its place
 

MrSquished

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Here is a worthwhile cause to support. Hogg started an organization to help get rid of some of these utterly corrupt and feckless Dems

 
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Fenixgoon

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I can't find it in the thread but someone posted a link to an article about rich people threatening to leave NYC over Mamdani's proposals..simply put, call their bluff. They can already live anywhere they want. There's a reason they live in NYC and haven't moved elsewhere.
(Same thing was true with Amazon's bidding out of HQ2. Amazon has resources to build anywhere they want. So why play the tax break game)
 

Greenman

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I can't find it in the thread but someone posted a link to an article about rich people threatening to leave NYC over Mamdani's proposals..simply put, call their bluff. They can already live anywhere they want. There's a reason they live in NYC and haven't moved elsewhere.
(Same thing was true with Amazon's bidding out of HQ2. Amazon has resources to build anywhere they want. So why play the tax break game)
I totally agree with this. Clearly the citizens of NY want a more progressive government, so they should get it.
I'm excited to see how the government owned supermarkets work out.
 

Fenixgoon

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I totally agree with this. Clearly the citizens of NY want a more progressive government, so they should get it.
I'm excited to see how the government owned supermarkets work out.
And if they do work out - considering the buying power of NYC - will you admit that it was a good idea?
 

Paratus

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I totally agree with this. Clearly the citizens of NY want a more progressive government, so they should get it.
I'm excited to see how the government owned supermarkets work out.
Damn straight. That’ll teach them liberals.

Real Americans want MAGA conservative policies! Whoooaaaaa!!



Die Early MFrs!
 

K1052

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I totally agree with this. Clearly the citizens of NY want a more progressive government, so they should get it.
I'm excited to see how the government owned supermarkets work out.

He wants to do five pilot stores. Big deal.

All the people bellyaching about this also should look to see if their utilities are municipally owned or if they have to go to a state owned store to buy liquor or if the state is the only legal wholesaler. This includes the one you live in I believe.
 
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ondma

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And if they do work out - considering the buying power of NYC - will you admit that it was a good idea?
Hopefully they would work out better than the pot dispensaries supposedly set up by the state of Minnesota. They legalized pot more than 2 years ago, and still don't have the distribution system set up to sell it. I mean they cant even sell something that everybody wants. Or maybe private enterprise, even if not legal, is more efficient than the government. Not sure the government is the best entity to be selling products, or maybe Minnesota really is just as corrupt and inept as the MAGATs make it out to be.
 

brycejones

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Hopefully they would work out better than the pot dispensaries supposedly set up by the state of Minnesota. They legalized pot more than 2 years ago, and still don't have the distribution system set up to sell it. I mean they cant even sell something that everybody wants. Or maybe private enterprise, even if not legal, is more efficient than the government. Not sure the government is the best entity to be selling products, or maybe Minnesota really is just as corrupt and inept as the MAGATs make it out to be.

Nvm, you’re right Walz personally pissed on your gummy.
 

Greenman

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He wants to do five pilot stores. Big deal.

All the people bellyaching about this also should look to see if their utilities are municipally owned or if they have to go to a state owned store to buy liquor or if the state is the only legal wholesaler. This includes the one you live in I believe.
Even if it's just one store I'm still interested in the outcome. Will prices be lower than privately owned stores? Will they operate at a loss and use tax revenue to cover the difference? What will the initial investment be?
It's a great experiment. I think I already know how it's going to turn out but it should be attempted.
 

Fenixgoon

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Even if it's just one store I'm still interested in the outcome. Will prices be lower than privately owned stores? Will they operate at a loss and use tax revenue to cover the difference? What will the initial investment be?
It's a great experiment. I think I already know how it's going to turn out but it should be attempted.
so in your crystal ball what's going to happen?

Mind you, Uber has been operating at a loss for most of its history, burning through billions per year. And it still exists.
 

HomerJS

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I hear from the right Democrats lose because they buck the will of the people. Republicans are trying to pass HR-1 a bill most people don't want. A plurality of Rs Ds and Is don't want.

Where is the lesson in that?
 

K1052

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Even if it's just one store I'm still interested in the outcome. Will prices be lower than privately owned stores? Will they operate at a loss and use tax revenue to cover the difference? What will the initial investment be?
It's a great experiment. I think I already know how it's going to turn out but it should be attempted.

I think this effort is in the "it's ok to actually just try stuff" area. If they can make it work fine, if it doesn't work also fine.

Municipal governments are also often sitting on a bunch of real estate that is underused. It is possible that they could have vacant retail spaces available for the effort that could eliminate or greatly reduce the need to pay rent which would make it more financially viable for the city than a private company.
 
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