And ignoring that we can "turn down" 1440p for "slower" cards like the 4060ti, and that the 16GB has the frame buffer room for all the DLSS and framegen magic to happen. If we can tune to run 1080p we can do the same one step up for a card that can confidently run 1080p native.
My son runs...
That's real money. I should do that but would probably be sad at what it costs to keep my servers running so I've been avoiding it. Dropped $20k on solar panels instead, power bill was $4.51 for May. This was totally the rational decision (/s). Should be building electricity credits until...
*If* we get 7900XT levels of raster performance, ~250W (less than) power consumption, and solid RT performance all paired with a 16GB frame buffer for maybe close to $500 that will be quite the package "in todays economy" and I don't think spending ~30-50% more now for a bigger frame buffer and...
Ditched my Crossfire 7950's for a 290X largely due to this data and it really reinforced that my feelings that while my FPS was up, the games played like butt.
Sounds familiar? lol.
*edit, first sold a 7950 and got a deal on a 290X later, but point being it changed how I perceived things*
I'll save @DAPUNISHER the typing.
Bar graphs don't show it working properly. They show measured frames.
If the dev states 12GB is what its going to take to work without issues/errors, I'll believe them.
Yes, as they sad at that time, bandwidth issues. They stated that raw bandwidth was available but architecturally they were not able to exploit it.
It's actually pretty neat to get into the details on that. Having Raja talk about it and having Vega suffer from similar issues is ironic as...
Almost immediately Intel stated that the design suffered from memory bandwidth issues. I am pretty sure Raja said that out loud in a post launch interview. Based on that I assume it was already being addressed in the hardware design of the next generation parts.
It seems like a sophomore...
Which is funny, because I was referring to it in terms of PPW which is a big deal, less power for bandwidth which allows for more juice for presumably the GPU. With a fixed power budget, it would be interesting in the data they received that put the product o this path.
It's Doubly interesting...
3D cache APU? Who's here for that? :D
Heck, AFAIK they don't have LLC/IC in the console APUs either, where you would think it would make so much sense as it is so power efficient and that is a huge boon to getting performance out of a tiny box and reducing costs elsewhere in size, cooling...
That's... not really that much data though. A grain of sand on the beach.
The earlier data, if accurate, is much more convincing in terms of volume, given the source is trusted. And that one paints a a picture of relative equilibrium and bouncing back from an epically terrible PC hardware...
Yes, business is almost always YoY measurements, whether that is months or quarters.
Looks like they got a solid 42% growth in units shipped YoY, which is... a lot. Basically fully absorbed the Intel market share back.
The number of tasks that were essentially being run on software that was emulating hardware in the driver was interesting bits. I wish we knew how that compared to the strategies of the other two GPU makers so we could judge if this was abnormal or par for the course. I've heard nvidia is OK...
Sure, and I have friends and acquaintances that are chasing the dragon and buying CNC machines, swapping out other tools, etc. etc. and all of that makes PC hobbies look ridiculously cheap. Is that Shopsmith the OG as purchased or has it basically been upgraded continuously in the meantime? :D...
For better or worse, other hobbies have warped my sense of value when it comes to PC components and while I do still try to eek out value a couple hundred bucks to do it "right" is so much easier for me to justify now.
This is a relief in many ways :D
It makes me regret not sending you that...
The newest thing Toms can reference AMD not having in a review? Box checked.
On a more serious note, do you have to login use this feature? I don’t know why that annoys me so much but it sure does. I am the backwards type that still uses a local account on fresh Windows 11 installs though…
Yeah, I think this is just reality of the times.
As long as we get something good to tide to push the competitive envelope in terms of pricing and all that, I guess that's all the win we are getting.
Sorry, I am not so well informed.
I am reading that as you saying that's "too high for the mainstream the card is targeting."
Is that what you are saying?
Accepting Yes/No/Higher/Lower as answers if you want to keep it signature brief. :) I enjoy your posts since they aren't walls of text, FWIW.
What?
No.
There is no high end competitor chip from AMD.
Remember the RDNA1 launch? The 5700XT being the top of the range and competing against the ~2070 but definitely not the 2080ti?
That's what we are looking at again.
It's looking like we might get a ~$550 card that is uses ~7800xt...
0? Doesn’t that sound like it’s happening.
….
Edit:
Haha, definitely should have read to the end of the thread first. That I had, turns out I was just at the bottom of the page…
A staggered launch makes sense because you can keep your product in the news cycle for longer, but I don't think AMD wants to drag this out. Their best chance for the longest possible competitive relevance of these SKUs is to roll them out as quick as strategy and supply chain allows. This...
Truly, looking at cards from like 10 years ago - the chonkiest of the chonkers - and you're like... wow, these are baby cards now.
GTX 980Ti that I had until recently was a baller EVGA super clocked premium card. LMAO at the 2060S cooler was pretty similar that I had at the same time, never...
Meh, PS5 Pro has the RT hardware from RDNA4 so I don't think its really that influenced by RDNA3.5.
Honestly that feels like something they would just want to skate right by at this point. Technically it would be interesting to know more and to know what RDNA3 maybe should have looked like...
All other things held the same, I would be inclined to try a different PSU.
75-78 C doesn't seem all that hot to me, but maybe there are 3090 owners here that can speak to that.
Is your memory speed being downclocked as well?
Who were you before your were banned?
This is very disingenuous.
Clearly the bar graph you show can be taken at face be value that frame rates aren’t impacted by vram. It’s a fallacy to say that this is the only dimension that matters when game engines adapt the experience to maintain...
Minisforum or other distributors may in time give us NUC equivalents with the full variety of AMD mobile parts.
I don't think AMD had things like this in mind originally, either:
https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-bd770i
(mitx board with up to a Ryzen 9 7945 HX chip)
Or...
RDNA 2 was pretty competitive top to bottom - except against arguably the 3090.
The 6600 still hasn't been beat in the value segment, and the 6700/6750 XT is having hot deals posts still because it is still a very well rounded card at $300.
Availability was the issue, yeah.
Any RDNA 2 GPU was...
Compared to small die, small run dGPU margins that get slim to none design wins? I would think yeah, definitely, especially as AMD APUs seem quite prevalent in laptops - certainly compared to just a few years ago.
dGPU outside of the lugger class laptops dying is written on the wall, IMO.
If...
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