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Ryzen: Strictly technical

MSI has always got away with close to maximum possible on the VRMs. Whatever they allow is usually clean but pushing limits that bum out pretty quickly. Same since the Phenom. Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
- KTE
- Post #1,667
- Jul 15, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Processors Technical Details?

For which processors? Look here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/search/tech-docs#k= Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
- KTE
- Post #6
- Apr 11, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

I find what you're relating very strange... Broken sensors if that's true. What you describe is not an engineering practise. What do you idle and what are your ambients? Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
- KTE
- Post #1,436
- Apr 7, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

Not so. AMD posted the details a while back. 1700X/1800X have a +20 offset (Tctl) from real junction temp. -20C is the real temp. You seem to be describing the chips heating per load instead. Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
- KTE
- Post #1,434
- Apr 7, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

I don't think anyone expected a very good power sensory feedback implementation. It's AMDs first/second proper attempt while Intel has perfected these since Nehalem. I did keep warning the unreasonable wishers that it's most likely a dumb implementation as the chip is being rushed to market with...
- KTE
- Post #1,413
- Apr 5, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

Idd is current and hotspots, yep. Some of the sensors are placed around what AMD would seem critical junctions. If a hotspot occurs there, the chip will throttle for sure. 30C delta between a hotspot and another chip section is not uncommon. Hotspots are primarily workload and structure...
- KTE
- Post #1,397
- Apr 2, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

Throttling won't be TDP based, they've done away with that now. It'll be based on the hotspots and Idd. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #1,394
- Apr 2, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

Did you miss my questions? Post #38776573. I agree on LPP/LPE, but I bet AMD can still eek out 200MHz more, especially in XFR. I also suspect they will get that 1800 with a smaller boost to 65W. This is what LPs are made for. The port to another process would take more than a year and the...
- KTE
- Post #337
- Mar 6, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

It's not misleading when you have the graphs CLEARLY marked in percentage difference. Quit the over-sensitivity. Edit: better word. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #334
- Mar 6, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Netburst looking back

Pentium Pro->Pentium M happened ;) The M mobile chips ran cooler and faster at 1GHz lower. Intel couldn't get anywhere near this performance scaling P4. The next challenge was process prowess to scale this mobile design in frequency. Research and test vehicles do not necessarily account for...
- KTE
- Post #19
- Mar 5, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

@TheStilt .. Sorry if I've missed any of this. I can't stand Win 10, so don't like to use it except for a tablet. Does parking a Core with Ryzen occur in logical pairs or one at a time? What conditions have to be present in Win10 for the Core to be parked? Are loads juggled about in Win 10...
- KTE
- Post #240
- Mar 5, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen: Strictly technical

I highly doubt 14nm LPP was what AMD wanted and it was definitely not suitable for HEDT. It looks like it was just what was available for HVM, and is heavily suitable for Mobile. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #166
- Mar 4, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

To be very honest, review quality en-masse -- for AMD related reasons -- has actually been very poor compared to what we have come to expect. I'll give it a few more days before saying much. I usually wait for ht4u's article, as for me, they are rarely matched on authenticity and thoroughness...
- KTE
- Post #3,294
- Mar 4, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

I guess I will write more later upon finding time... Pure performance wise, AMD has done an amazing job in every respect. No one can sniff at that. It is AMDs Conroe, albeit only vs AMD themselves. For anything Media/DAC/Encryption related, Ryzen is a sure bet. MT performance in a lot of...
- KTE
- Post #3,284
- Mar 4, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Oh dear. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #3,090
- Mar 3, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

@anandtech This review format is really a big let down from your prestige. Seriously, this isn't what AT was known for. Within the first pages traditionally was IPC vs. the last 2-3 AMD archs. Quick, down and dirty. And/or power at the 12v. Then a clearcut manipulation of some parameters to...
- KTE
- Post #2,381
- Mar 2, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

In the UK, no one I've contacted has stock and no ETA of new stock. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #2,114
- Mar 2, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Mods: Please make a different Reviews thread. Too much OT in here for anyone to follow. First user review? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-delivered-early-benchmarks/amp/ Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #2,107
- Mar 2, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Ryzen is looking nothing like Bulldozer in any facet. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #1,979
- Mar 1, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

C'mon inf64... Nothing he says is with any reason, justification or removed from what any AMD fan can dream up in places where holes exist. It's all nonsense from a bored kid in his loft. A kid who's been watching too much Harry Potter. The last few weeks of any major AMD launch welcomes the...
- KTE
- Post #1,971
- Mar 1, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Ryzen 1800x at 5.2Ghz. Sets a new record on Cinebench

This confirms what I said all along. It's a high IPC chip on a LPP process shipping right at its limit. 5GHz is 2GHz less than SkyLake FMax with the same cooling, just for perspective. Almost like K8 vs P4 here. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #20
- Mar 1, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Seriously. Quit talking about lunatics who don't even post here. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #1,611
- Feb 28, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

No one really knows if XFR is a complete gimmick or if technically it allows maximum clocks per cooling. If the latter is true AND only 100-200MHz is gained, Ryzen is launching right at the limits of its LPP clocking curve. The sign of that happening would be high stock current usage (>110A)...
- KTE
- Post #1,369
- Feb 27, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Like I said a month back. Price cuts would be excellent, and they will definitely come fast if Ryzen is challenging. And do stay aware that Intel will certainly know of Ryzen's performance and what to fully expect by now. It's just the way business works. Vulture Culture. :)
- KTE
- Post #1,305
- Feb 27, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

If Ryzen is even slightly challenging Intels HEDT chips, then that's certainly how the corporate world works. I don't just believe it, I expect it. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #1,297
- Feb 27, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Yea, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon and all DCs etc order directly, and as a 'Partner' they will attain huge discounts. I wish I could reveal some of the prices before and after, they are so shocking, but I'd be sued into a singularity. I can't wait to see Naples and how disruptive it may...
- KTE
- Post #1,184
- Feb 26, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

What's that got to do with what I said? You're just repeating what we all know. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #1,170
- Feb 26, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Some "love" for Intel, the new budget king? (G4560 madness!!)

So what's a solid mATX 1151 board from your experience when using an i3/Pentium? Did you try any Asrock boards? 1. Yes, low-end Intels have been far below TDP wattage since Conroe. Many times drawing power at half the watt rating. 2. Ryzen is requiring a high current, as I speculated. Which...
- KTE
- Post #41
- Feb 26, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

Yup. Talking from a Fortune 50 corporate perspective -- Email nowadays is enough to accept a job and to leave a job - it acts as a formal writ and can be printed off to be used in court just the same.
- KTE
- Post #988
- Feb 25, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

You should think full well before re-posting some kiddy fanatics conspiracy fairy tale on here. That post and poster are plain sad. Anyone who works in the IT field as an Architect/CTO/Director knows fully well that story is complete and utter BS, every letter of it. AKA smear campaign. These...
- KTE
- Post #987
- Feb 25, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

OT: Is Andreas still around? Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #6,156
- Feb 19, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

This might be a lot harder for you to test, but is Docker containerisation (build) also something you can test? The reason I'm asking is as it is critical for enterprise cloud migrations right now. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #5,844
- Feb 17, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

Yea extreme OC since 2005 days on XS, but someone I personally have known... Even in the Phenom/Bulldozer extreme hype days, he was repeatedly attacked for calling them crap, pre-release. Doesn't mince his words. Not saying its a SKL killer but it can't be bad with his comment. Sent from HTC...
- KTE
- Post #5,648
- Feb 16, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

If dinos is saying this, the performance must be good. I'm a believer [emoji41] Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #5,643
- Feb 16, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

XFR to me is a gimmick, except for mobile users, and maybe, just maybe, standard Joe Bloggs. Clocks are limited as it is. Keeping constant FO4 is fine but the problem with a 14nm high clock design is the tiny wires, RC not scaling, major EM issues, DP complexity, huge fin variations affecting...
- KTE
- Post #5,572
- Feb 15, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Dissecting-AMD-Zen-Architecture-Interview-David-Kanter Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #5,348
- Feb 13, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

They won't be the minimum stable voltage... They'll be minimum+safety buffer. In every live system where thorough stability testing cannot be performed, manufacturers have to provide this buffer. Unless the tables are initially populated by calibration via factory testing of voltages... Sent...
- KTE
- Post #5,339
- Feb 13, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

This is why I asked for the table details. There's always a table, and usually it will be accessible... Overwriteable [emoji6] How often it is updated and what exact conditions it needs for an upshift/downshift are key. K10Stat Dev needs to come out of hiding [emoji41] Different VID/FIDs...
- KTE
- Post #5,306
- Feb 13, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

Thanks, but you didn't answer 6/8 questions there. I'll reply when I get time. Or better, can you link the paper? I'll most likely have access. Sent from HTC 10 (Opinions are own)
- KTE
- Post #5,252
- Feb 13, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge) Benchmarks Thread (use new thread)

What does XFR change the VID to? How does it decide this? Where is the predefined table for Clocks@VID kept? Is this editable? [emoji6] Is there a max power cap for XFR? What's the time skew for max power/temperature after being hit? Is XFR response based on Hotspots priority first...
- KTE
- Post #5,227
- Feb 12, 2017
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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