AMD said 2x, I remembered seeing it somewhere, did a bit of digging, and found an AMD slidedeck from an investor presentation (slide 28):
https://ir.amd.com/static-files/dd12bed4-a96e-42e7-b2d9-3940183e2473
The full list of presentations are here...
To be honest, if you can, I would wait until Nvidia/AMD show their next gen GPU's, either they'll be amazing, and you'll be disappointed to pick up a current gen GPU, or they won't be, but you'll still get a current gen card at discount because of the new models.
From everything we're hearing...
my thoughts on the XT variants:
- Allow AMD to sell processors at the origional MSRP again (street prices for the non-XTs are trending downwards)
- They're probably just the highest binned chips, boost clocks max out at the 3950X's max boost too, which already had the best bins
- Seems that the...
It seems more and more that Intel is announcing products/prices for things to compete, or at least appear to be competing with AMD, but without actually allowing for mass availability, or in this case, never really releasing them.
For example, how many 10 series HEDT parts are they actually...
If they win, they can start doing the same shady business again, and as timing would have it, Intel could really use some shady tactics for the years ahead.
I would say so. Look at how much, percentage wise AMD has spent in terms of watts in their chiplet designs.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar/19
in that case it's around 20% to uncore, a lot of that being interconnect. GPU's are power...
I would say nov for hpc. Basically not for public sale, but 'shipping'.
First set of Consumer cpus r7s and r9s maybe dec 2020
R5s jan 2021
Apus mid 2021
It's an interesting question. Perhaps Jenson was going to drop a bunch of product announcements, and release dates, but with virus, there are going to be delays. I wouldn't want to make a good deal of a new fancy smanshy top end GPU and then say that it might be available in a couple months...
Yeah, the results are better than I thought they would be. The key to me is that amazon didn't do too much custom work to these CPU's, and apple has the exact same access to this silicon IP. It was more of an eye opener for Amazon to spin off a custom CPU (to me), since they have no history in...
I think it was all about scaling to multiple processor sockets. The funny thing about the refresh is that they have less scaling, no longer can they scale to 4 or 8 sockets, but only do 2 sockets I believe.
I could see it being benficial for a future CPU only upgrade in the future for you. Downgrade for now, save a few bucks, then when Zen 3 comes out, either pick up one of those CPU's swap it in for minimal downtime, or even pick up a now discounted 3900x or something and pop it in.
AM4 does...
The boost speed is probably not something you'll be able to maintain in a small laptop. Depending on the bios, there are options for setting the power level durations for PL2, it will boost for that duration. Though the heat and power use is going to be huge, and your laptop won't be able to...
I guess AMD could release a higher end APU on AM4, I'd welcome it. I think if we look historically APU's were always lower end though.
I wonder what they would price an 8c16t APU like Van Gogh at. it'd have to be more than a 3700x right? So.. $350, $400? more? At that price are people...
It'd be interesting if they went with a multi-die solution. If rumors of arcturus are correct in that it's a compute only solution (no display out at all), perhaps it's feasible?
700nm in 7nm seems pretty aggressive, but who knows, I'm sure it'll be an expensive part, but it'll eat up a lot...
So perhaps a clocked up version of the Xe card that we've been seeing in the dev kits (those are 75w), and then a dual GPU 300w card for the consumer market.
The quad GPU 400/500w cards seem to be server only, probably for those hyperscale super computer jobs.
Lisa said in an interview with Ian that it was tight:
Yes, you're right the lead times are big 6 months (which is huge), and the reason why the lead times are so great, is that wafer supply is tight. There is a lot of customers wanting 7nm from TSMC. Some customers are moving on, like I said...
I was under the impression that wafer supplies were "tight" (Lisa Su said that anyways), 2020 looks like AMD is grabbing a whole bunch of TSMC 7nm capacity since apple is moving from the process leaving more on the table. But AMD is also pushing a lot of new products in 7nm, and trying to...
Ahh, ok. I noticed that sometimes certain navi lite references also come and go throughout beta phases too. Makes sense I guess, evaluating components would require driver support. It's an interesting thought though, having Apple shift over to AMD for CPUs.
Two hurdles I immediately see...
Um... isn't that a big deal? Has previous AMD APU's shown up in MAC OS before? Is this an indicator that Apple may start using AMD processors in their laptops? Seems like a big deal to me...
Wonder if it has a perforance penalty. From many peoples perspective the speculative execution attacks are medium risk, and as such don't warrant overreaction (including those in my company). So perhaps Microsoft is leaving it up to the admins to decide if it's worth the effort/performance to...
As far as I could tell it was the cost of parts, costs/complexity of implementation (2.5D packaging). The parts costs was high due to low volume and few manufacturings doing it. The packaging that AMD used was cutting edge at the time, and thus expensive to do across the board.
However, it...
I also doubt it too. Nvidia was very smart with their agreement with Nintendo for the switch. Nvidia is doing the developement of the Switch SDK for developers. This would abviously make it much harder for Nintendo to switch vendors and have to create all the toolsets again from scratch...
This is an interesting topic. So I guess AMD will get wafers, pre-cut from TSMC. Packaged in some way, so that AMD can process/test/validate them, and then place them on the CPU package along with the requisite chiplets. I'd love to see how they package the raw dies for transport to AMD...
I think the shortages are really a perfect storm of things for Intel.
1) Intel was forced to increase core counts on pretty much all fronts to combat AMD. They were happy, and probably expected to continue to sell 122mm 4core parts to the masses for the forseeable future, now they have to sell...
I've never looked at it that way, it's an interesting thought.
I think it doesn't take into account any gains in image quality though.
I think a more realistic look would be, looking at just raster performance, and finding an equally priced card from Nvidia. Say 2080 vs 1080ti. Both were...
Yeah, I think there will be monilithic APU's for desktop, similar to the 2000 and 3000 series, hitting the low end of the desktop market. They can be cheap because they are chips that don't meet the ultra low power mobile specs.
But it would be very interesting if they stretched the APU...
Hmm... I wish it was cheaper. But of course we should want it cheaper (as we want Nvidias cards to be cheaper). I'll bet AMD doesn't want the demand to be TOO large for these. This product is competing for 7nm supply with all the rest of the CPU business, along with consoles this year too. I...
The article doesn't paint a good picture for vendors/buyers being excited about the platform. Specifically the water cooling requirement and lack of flexibility (soldered CPUs make upgrades/replacements impossible). Who knows the cost.
Seems like AMD is leaving a lot of price flexiblity in the RX 5500. AMD tends to drop prices over time, so I guess that's good. Hopefully there is a small price adjustment when the RX 5600 comes out.
Mine was a 3d rage! Though in those days it was always hand me downs for me. The first card i bought (used) was a tnt2. The first card i bought new with my own money was a radeon 9700pro at launch with my dual athlon mp 2100+s lol
Sometimes I wonder how "limited" the stock is on these high end SKU's. Earlier I saw someone link a top CPU sales chart from amazon (can't find the link, amazon.com currently doesn't show this), but is showed the Ryzen 3950 as the top seller. And previously we saw the 3900 selling quite good...
This seems like the best option. Chances are you won't be using all 24 cores most of the time anyway? Perhaps you will, but limiting the power in software will make the most out of the situation, you probably won't lose anything at low core counts in terms of frequency, and only lose a bit at...
I don't know much about who you're talking to, I don't really track users and their previous replies. I saw a graph and decided that it would be really interesting to investigate, and had a quick theory on what could happen in the future. Which is fun to add to a discussion to see if it comes...
No kidding, though the last gen threadripper was an interesting beast with some compromises with how they setup inter-die communications. It'll be interesting to see how the new threadripper does in this regard.
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