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  1. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    In that graph the 3050 mobile is 70-90% faster than the 780m and neither configuration shown is at full power (80W TGP). LNL is not up there yet.
  2. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I didn't, check the graphs at 8:35 and 9:40: Skymont est. (MTL LPE + 38% INT +68% FP) = 1.90 INT 2.86 FP Ultra 5 125H E 5.66 INT 6.44 FP @ 3.6GHz = 1.57 INT 1.79 FP i9 14900K E 5.64 INT 6.01 FP @ 3.6GHz = 1.57 INT 1.67 FP i5 13500H E 5.11 INT 5.79 FP @ 3.5GHz = 1.46 INT 1.65 FP...
  3. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Using the SPEC2017 results in this Geekerwan video (8:15-9:40) and Intel's claimed increases, Skymont's IPC in LNL is 21% and 71% higher in int and fp respectively than RPL-S Gracemont and 30% and 73% higher than RPL-H Gracemont. Mobile skus have lower IPC, for example, when compared to its...
  4. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Here. It's definitely the same leak but the MTL score you mention is for a 64EU/4 Xe core part, the full one gets just over 1500.
  5. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    The only 2x articles I'm finding are about Sisoftware Sandra GPU processing scores being 2x MTL at the same number of "EUs" (64) and 26% faster than the top MTL part. Who knows how that'll translate into gaming.
  6. Question WASM benchmarks to test your CPU using Firefox (Justin's and pspdfkit)

    Another data point, on my android phone Edge is just behind Firefox (11.74 vs 12.28). edit: I also included Edge having just 1/10th of the performance of FF on my wintel laptop yesterday but that seems to have magically fixed itself.
  7. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    P-series also used the 2+8 die, for the i3, but the point I'm trying to make is that there is no longer any 4+8 chip at 28W being sold as "top of the line", they will be Ultra 5 and that might be explained by the 6+8 configuration just being more performant than 4+8 at practically every relevant...
  8. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I think axed is appropriate, that TDP was originally used in U-series chips, P-series was an attempt at having a cut down H-series die replace them but that particular P+E configuration didn't end up hitting any performance/watt sweet spots against either 2+8 or 6+8. MTL H is 28W yes, but there...
  9. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I know, and relative efficiency does increase for the 1255U at 15W but it scores 896 and I was trying to keep the "iso performance" comparison made by Abwx. Yes! and it also shows us some possible insight as to why the P series was axed, there wasn't a single point in which 4+8 was the best...
  10. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Here's a more direct comparison, the i7-1255U gets 1062 points at 20W in CB15 MT, vs 1025 for the 7840U at 12W, so the latter is 60% more efficient at roughly iso performance, a large gap still but not 2x. Besides Alder Lake and derivates suffer at low power limits because the uncore uses ~4W...
  11. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Almost certainly less than 45W real usage, testing on my own 12500H laptop (80EU Iris Xe) I get 21.24 fps while limited to 28W, any higher doesn't improve it beyond margin of error. The 13700H has a theoretical 38% better compute but it's better binned and it's clearly bottlenecked in some way...
  12. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    There was no such thing as a P-die, only the H series 6P/8E die and the U-series 2P/8E die, P-series chips are basically just better binned H-series i5s with a power limit and didn't perform any better than a fully enabled H chip at the same "TDP". In all their presentations of Meteor Lake so...
  13. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    The 13900K was also tested in SPECint and its power values are still in line with CB but it's entirely possible Zen 4 is just that different in that aspect.
  14. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Taking idle=uncore, the raptor lake SPEC power usage seems in line CB but Zen 4 is roughly 10W lower. What gives ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  15. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Is that in watts? they seem incredibly low values considering the 7600X (5.3GHz) uses 30W in Cinebench 1T The same as the 13600K which also has a 5.3GHz max clock.
  16. Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    If this slide is accurate enough to be measured ...it can clock up to 2.4GHz, for 1024 shaders that'll be 4.9 TFLOPs. Time Spy's graphic score against flops is very linear on Iris Xe, so with the help of a simple regression equation, it looks like Meteor Lake has a high chance of breaking the...
  17. Discussion Cinebench 2024 Released

    Those power limits are for the whole soc (CPU+GPU), the numbers I mentioned were measured on multi-thread cpu workloads by this site. M1 max on Cinebench R23 MT M1 on a mac mini
  18. Discussion Cinebench 2024 Released

    If that's really just 15W that's very impressive, the plain M1 has a "TDP" of 20W and the M1 that scores 791 is the Max which used 34W of package power when running CBR23 MT. On the other hand, here's my laptop (Lenovo Legion i5 g7), it's not limited to 45W, more like 80W+ during the whole...
  19. Question AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU Speculation and Discussion

    That makes it 4.3 TFLOPS of FP32 right? or does the dual-issue thing change the equation? I ask because I noticed that some websites (like Techpowerup) have it at 9 TFLOPS.
  20. Question AMD Phoenix/Zen 4 APU Speculation and Discussion

    On the 3DMark website the average TS graphics score for the 680M is indeed ~2400 but the best ones are almost 3000. You can check for yourselves here.
  21. Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

    That makes more sense, I did suspect dynamic boost at first but got blindsided by Lenovo actually putting 95W in their spec sheet but that detail about them using the same boost clock for the 80W version seals it. Still, we found a precedent of OEMs wanting to slap big number 95W on the spec...
  22. Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

    There are 95W 3050 Tis, the Lenovo Legion 5 2022 has one. They score up to 6300 on Time Spy graphics so 9600 points for the replacement would make it over 50% more efficient.
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