10 most Worthless degrees

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Anubis
lothar why are you so pissed and bitter about what other people do with their lifes?

I'm not pissed and bitter about it. They can do what they wish as long as they don't blame me for their problems.
If they get a scholarship or if their parents have money, sure.

But I wouldn't recommend someone take $12-15,000 in student loans at 6.8+% every semester for 4 years to get a bachelors in a useless course. Not even if I was a guidiance counselor or class advisor and my job depended on it.

They will spend the next 30 years paying the loans and interest.
http://finance.yahoo.com/loans...-Loan-So-Hard-to-Shake
Student loans are the hardest debt to shake off, period.
It's pretty much impossible to get rid of them unless you commit suicide or pay them completely.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Lothar
It's pretty much impossible to get rid of them unless you commit suicide or pay them completely.

lulz, that's how you get rid of all loans. What makes a student loan any different?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Lothar
It's pretty much impossible to get rid of them unless you commit suicide or pay them completely.

lulz, that's how you get rid of all loans. What makes a student loan any different?

He was talking about bankrupcy. You can shed yourself of consumer debt by declaring bankrupcy but some people are finding that the student loans are sticking with them after the process.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Lothar
It's pretty much impossible to get rid of them unless you commit suicide or pay them completely.

lulz, that's how you get rid of all loans. What makes a student loan any different?

Read the link in my post.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: Queasy
I would say it's just the worthlessness...but how much you are paying for that worthlessness. I know somebody that goes to a college in NYC and pays $15,000+ a semester for a major in....theater. <facepalm> Congrats, you've set yourself up for a lifetime of paying off student loans.

Yeah, damn her for doing something she enjoys. What a moron.

I've got a couple friends who majored in Theatre. They do a variety of jobs from sound, lighting and stagehand work...I dunno. In any large-ish city, there's always lots of productions and events going on that need people with that kind of knowledge.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I knew someone that got a degree in Art. She became a waitress til she married a doctor.

I know a bunch of people that either are in college for it or have gone to and no one has any job in that field. In fact most Art majors get pissed off if you tell them its a dead end and they should change their major asap.

I know a few people who majored in art that works in marketing.
I wouldn't recommend the major to someone that doesn't already have a talent for it, but the major does help you build a portfolio and gives you many connections to help you get one of the many many art jobs out there.
you don't need to be a picasso to make money from art. how do you think all the games and movies are made? there are tons of jobs out there for art majors.

So why didn't they just major in marketing and not art?

I agree.
Librarian of a local elementary/middle school, Starbucks, McDonalds, CVS, KFC, Target, and Walmart store/assistant managers.

You sound like you'd make a great guidance counselor and class advisor.
Recommend students to take $100,000 in student loans over 4 years at 6.8+% interest because there are "tons" of jobs to be had in getting a bachelors in liberal arts, social science, and film history.

simple... art is a big portion of marketing... it's a study of communicating in other ways other than just words.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: Queasy
I would say it's just the worthlessness...but how much you are paying for that worthlessness. I know somebody that goes to a college in NYC and pays $15,000+ a semester for a major in....theater. <facepalm> Congrats, you've set yourself up for a lifetime of paying off student loans.

Yeah, damn her for doing something she enjoys. What a moron.

I've got a couple friends who majored in Theatre. They do a variety of jobs from sound, lighting and stagehand work...I dunno. In any large-ish city, there's always lots of productions and events going on that need people with that kind of knowledge.

Correct. The ignorance in this thread is strong. With any major, there are a number of career paths that can spring from it. Not all of them may be lucrative but a number of them are much happier waking up in the morning to go to work then most here.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I knew someone that got a degree in Art. She became a waitress til she married a doctor.

I know a bunch of people that either are in college for it or have gone to and no one has any job in that field. In fact most Art majors get pissed off if you tell them its a dead end and they should change their major asap.

I know a few people who majored in art that works in marketing.
I wouldn't recommend the major to someone that doesn't already have a talent for it, but the major does help you build a portfolio and gives you many connections to help you get one of the many many art jobs out there.
you don't need to be a picasso to make money from art. how do you think all the games and movies are made? there are tons of jobs out there for art majors.

So why didn't they just major in marketing and not art?

I agree.
Librarian of a local elementary/middle school, Starbucks, McDonalds, CVS, KFC, Target, and Walmart store/assistant managers.

You sound like you'd make a great guidance counselor and class advisor.
Recommend students to take $100,000 in student loans over 4 years at 6.8+% interest because there are "tons" of jobs to be had in getting a bachelors in liberal arts, social science, and film history.

simple... art is a big portion of marketing... it's a study of communicating in other ways other than just words.

Do you think people who major in marketing only study communicating in words?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I knew someone that got a degree in Art. She became a waitress til she married a doctor.

I know a bunch of people that either are in college for it or have gone to and no one has any job in that field. In fact most Art majors get pissed off if you tell them its a dead end and they should change their major asap.

I know a few people who majored in art that works in marketing.
I wouldn't recommend the major to someone that doesn't already have a talent for it, but the major does help you build a portfolio and gives you many connections to help you get one of the many many art jobs out there.
you don't need to be a picasso to make money from art. how do you think all the games and movies are made? there are tons of jobs out there for art majors.

So why didn't they just major in marketing and not art?

I agree.
Librarian of a local elementary/middle school, Starbucks, McDonalds, CVS, KFC, Target, and Walmart store/assistant managers.

You sound like you'd make a great guidance counselor and class advisor.
Recommend students to take $100,000 in student loans over 4 years at 6.8+% interest because there are "tons" of jobs to be had in getting a bachelors in liberal arts, social science, and film history.

simple... art is a big portion of marketing... it's a study of communicating in other ways other than just words.

Do you think people who major in marketing only study communicating in words?

no they mainily study bullshit

 

[BigDH01]

I consider my undergrad to be worthless and it was a science degree (Microbio). If average starting salary was your only concern then everyone would major in engineering, supply chain management, or computer science at my school. My fiance got her degree in Chem E and now works in a cubicle. After seeing this, I realized that money isn't the most important thing. True, it is very unwise to take 100k in loans to get a degree that will make it very difficult for you to pay that back, but it is equally unwise to select a degree because you like the average starting salary even when you know you wouldn't like the work. I think my fiance is a very intelligent woman and she spends her days correcting mistakes and making graphs for spreadsheets. Even when it pays well, that life isn't for everyone.

Also, I was just at http://graduate-school.phds.org/ looking up some statistics. If you want to talk about worthless degrees then you can't ignore the sciences. I almost went to graduate school for Microbiology and thank my lucky stars I didn't. You work long hours, get crap pay, and basically have crap prospects afterwards. According to that site, 93% of Micro PhDs nationwide go on to post doc positions. I don't want to get into the "there is no shortage of scientists rant" but I think hard science PhDs and even undergraduate degrees can be considered for the list. That leaves engineering and some areas of business.

 

[IEC]

Why It Won?t Help You Get a Job: Sorry God, but a major in Religion is about as worthless as St. Brice (The Patron Saint of Stomach Aches.) Even Duke University can?t put a solid sell on this degree: ?A major in religion offers intellectual excitement and can be a pathway to a liberal education.? OK, you sold me. So now I get to shell out about a hundred thousand dollars so I can know what to wear to a Shinto ceremony and learn how many virgins Allah will give me if I blow myself up in an Israeli square? If it?s OK with you, I?ll keep my money and stick to my sinning-a-lot-now-and-repenting-on-my-deathbed plan.

What Job You?ll End Up With: This one is tricky. On one hand you?ll probably end up working behind the desk of a Christian Science Reading Room. But on the other, you may end up with everlasting peace and spiritual enlightenment. Let?s call it a draw.

Too bad he doesn't understand that a religion major has very little to do with theology and actual religious practice.

Also, almost no one stops with an undergraduate degree. Many from Duke go on to med school, law school, master's programs, etc.

From Duke's Religion Dept website:

As an interdisciplinary academic discipline, the study of religion offers a rigorous, systematic, and dispassionate intellectual inquiry into various aspects of religious systems, their practitioners and outlooks, their goals and expressions. It employs a wide variety of approaches and methods in order to understand the role of religion in both human experience and thought.

The academic study of religion is actually quite enlightening and fascinating.

Edit: I do agree with Lothar that it is quite stupid to take on 100K of debt to get a B.A. even if it is from a great school. Lucky for me I won't even have 1/5 of that when I graduate

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Lothar
Do you think people who major in marketing only study communicating in words?

Do you think all the ads you see are only made by marketing people? It's made by a whole team of people with specialization in many fields.

 

[krunchykrome]

basically, any liberal arts degree

we already knew this

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I knew someone that got a degree in Art. She became a waitress til she married a doctor.

I know a bunch of people that either are in college for it or have gone to and no one has any job in that field. In fact most Art majors get pissed off if you tell them its a dead end and they should change their major asap.

I know a few people who majored in art that works in marketing.
I wouldn't recommend the major to someone that doesn't already have a talent for it, but the major does help you build a portfolio and gives you many connections to help you get one of the many many art jobs out there.
you don't need to be a picasso to make money from art. how do you think all the games and movies are made? there are tons of jobs out there for art majors.

So why didn't they just major in marketing and not art?

I agree.
Librarian of a local elementary/middle school, Starbucks, McDonalds, CVS, KFC, Target, and Walmart store/assistant managers.

You sound like you'd make a great guidance counselor and class advisor.
Recommend students to take $100,000 in student loans over 4 years at 6.8+% interest because there are "tons" of jobs to be had in getting a bachelors in liberal arts, social science, and film history.

simple... art is a big portion of marketing... it's a study of communicating in other ways other than just words.

Do you think people who major in marketing only study communicating in words?

no they mainily study bullshit

Ok, so you're saying a degree in art is useful, but one in marketing isn't?

I only have to prove that one of them is useless for my point to be taken.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I knew someone that got a degree in Art. She became a waitress til she married a doctor.

I know a bunch of people that either are in college for it or have gone to and no one has any job in that field. In fact most Art majors get pissed off if you tell them its a dead end and they should change their major asap.

I know a few people who majored in art that works in marketing.
I wouldn't recommend the major to someone that doesn't already have a talent for it, but the major does help you build a portfolio and gives you many connections to help you get one of the many many art jobs out there.
you don't need to be a picasso to make money from art. how do you think all the games and movies are made? there are tons of jobs out there for art majors.

So why didn't they just major in marketing and not art?

I agree.
Librarian of a local elementary/middle school, Starbucks, McDonalds, CVS, KFC, Target, and Walmart store/assistant managers.

You sound like you'd make a great guidance counselor and class advisor.
Recommend students to take $100,000 in student loans over 4 years at 6.8+% interest because there are "tons" of jobs to be had in getting a bachelors in liberal arts, social science, and film history.

simple... art is a big portion of marketing... it's a study of communicating in other ways other than just words.

Do you think people who major in marketing only study communicating in words?

no they mainily study bullshit

Ok, so you're saying a degree in art is useful, but one in marketing isn't?

I only have to prove that one of them is useless for my point to be taken.

sigh your sarcasm meter needs to be fixed

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: BigDH01
True, it is very unwise to take 100k in loans to get a degree that will make it very difficult for you to pay that back, but it is equally unwise to select a degree because you like the average starting salary even when you know you wouldn't like the work.

I disagree.
If liberal arts was my life long dream and I couldn't afford it when I was entering college, I would take a more financially sound approach.

I know someone who took loans to get a degree in nursing, and later went on to do her dream in psychology and now has a masters there. Loans paid off easily, financed education in psychology completely.
I know many people who do this. Most people get a Nursing degree, then go on to do whatever they want (Law, Medicine, Psychology, "insert other majors here") these days so they won't have much financial burden hanging on their necks.

Much better than jumping early to get a 100k loan and finishing with your head cut off.

Even if I have to do a job I don't like for a few years to be financially secure, I'll do the sacrifice.
Getting a 100k loan on my head at 6.8% interest that I most likely won't be able to pay back anytime soon by starting a career in liberal arts is not an option.

If you get a good scholarship, or your parent's are rich, or you have business connections then you can ignore this entire rant.
If you have to get 100k in loans to major in liberal arts, take the more financially sound approach, then come back to do what you actually want.

 

[ICRS]

All degrees have value, just some have more value than others. I have a degree in mathematics, which is probably in the middle of the pack in terms of value.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: ICRS
All degrees have value, just some have more value than others. I have a degree in mathematics, which is probably in the middle of the pack in terms of value.

Chicks must really dig that at parties

You know - math parties.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Kevin1211

ummm... the majority of students getting into med school are philosophy majors...

huh?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Kevin1211

ummm... the majority of students getting into med school are philosophy majors...

huh?

what is hard to understand about that

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Kevin1211

ummm... the majority of students getting into med school are philosophy majors...

huh?

what is hard to understand about that

I understand it, I merely question it's truth. My understanding is most med students are hard science (bio/chem) majors. Stating the majority of med students are philosphy majors is extremely counterintuitive and I refuse to believe it unless some link is posted as evidence.

My brief foray into google seems to confirm my impression.
http://www.tcnj.edu/~engsci/BME/med_accept.pdf
http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2007/mcatgpabymaj07.htm

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: BigDH01
True, it is very unwise to take 100k in loans to get a degree that will make it very difficult for you to pay that back, but it is equally unwise to select a degree because you like the average starting salary even when you know you wouldn't like the work.

I disagree.
If liberal arts was my life long dream and I couldn't afford it when I was entering college, I would take a more financially sound approach.

I know someone who took loans to get a degree in nursing, and later went on to do her dream in psychology and now has a masters there. Loans paid off easily, financed education in psychology completely.
I know many people who do this. Most people get a Nursing degree, then go on to do whatever they want (Law, Medicine, Psychology, "insert other majors here") these days so they won't have much financial burden hanging on their necks.

Much better than jumping early to get a 100k loan and finishing with your head cut off.

Even if I have to do a job I don't like for a few years to be financially secure, I'll do the sacrifice.
Getting a 100k loan on my head at 6.8% interest that I most likely won't be able to pay back anytime soon by starting a career in liberal arts is not an option.

If you get a good scholarship, or your parent's are rich, or you have business connections then you can ignore this entire rant.
If you have to get 100k in loans to major in liberal arts, take the more financially sound approach, then come back to do what you actually want.

Eh, aren't you a cop? What are the requirements for that, anyway? Second grade?

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Kevin1211

ummm... the majority of students getting into med school are philosophy majors...

huh?

It's true.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Kevin1211

ummm... the majority of students getting into med school are philosophy majors...

huh?

It's true.

I'm a fucking idiot

ED: I posted this b/c I thought you were pulling my leg and the whole "most med students are philosophy majors" was SO ridiculous that you were egging me on to see how far I would go to refute an obviously untrue statement. But now it looks like you are serious, per your post below.

 

[AMDZen]

HAHAHA - my friend just graduated with a BA in Philosophy and works at Fedex/Kinko's. Cracks me up because i have a great job with a pretty good company doing program management and the like and i didn't even go to college. In the time he got through it all and ended up with a worthless degree, i made my way up the ranks in a decent company earning a very decent salary with 6 weeks paid vacation a year and all the benefits.