100% cpu usage

[Wetzelman1]

I just built up my new system. It was rushed and porbably should've put a little more care into it seeing as it is my first custom build. Anyways, I finally got the beast running and everything starting to work fine. For some reason the cpu usage is constantly at 99% or 100%. This makes my comp run slower than at my previous p4 1.6ghz. There are a shitload of processes running, but not really any more than were running on my previous setup. What is the problem?

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
I just built up my new system. It was rushed and porbably should've put a little more care into it seeing as it is my first custom build. Anyways, I finally got the beast running and everything starting to work fine. For some reason the cpu usage is constantly at 99% or 100%. This makes my comp run slower than at my previous p4 1.6ghz. There are a shitload of processes running, but not really any more than were running on my previous setup. What is the problem?

I suppose the big question is --- what task is taking the most CPU time? Look in Task Manager and let us know.

 

[Wetzelman1]

i've gotten it to stop running at 100% but it's still running slow. The task manager shows firfox using 50,000k and aim/explorer/svchost/mcshield/and iwnamp each taking about 20,000k. Cpu usage stays around 5-10 when I'm not doing anything. These numbers are much higher than my p4 setup. Especially when I run miltiple programs, the computer has significant lag. When I use i2hub, I have to close every program running in order for it to work properly. This is absolutely stuimping me. I only have 4 startup programs as well.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
i've gotten it to stop running at 100% but it's still running slow. The task manager shows firfox using 50,000k and aim/explorer/svchost/mcshield/and iwnamp each taking about 20,000k. Cpu usage stays around 5-10 when I'm not doing anything. These numbers are much higher than my p4 setup. Especially when I run miltiple programs, the computer has significant lag. When I use i2hub, I have to close every program running in order for it to work properly. This is absolutely stuimping me. I only have 4 startup programs as well.

I suppose the big question is --- what task is taking the most CPU time? Look in Task Manager and let us know. (Or are you saying it never runs at 100% now? If so, what'd you change?)

Also, you might go to Microsoft and get MPS Reports (Setup-Perf version), run that, and mail it to me and perhaps I'll see something. Oh, and install & run the Microsoft anti-spyware program too. See all this in my signature.

 

[Wetzelman1]

after realizing that I'm a retard, I'll try to give some better info. I'm just getting confused alot because this system is very different than my last and they're are alot of different process' being run by windows I'm guessing. I've realized the problem is no with the actual amount of process', but with the usage of 1 or 2. I2hub, if your unfamiliar with it, is a file sharing program used on college campus'. while running, it is saying that it is consuming about 90% of my cpu usage. firefox will also run up alot of my cpu when it's the only program being used.

on a side note, I'm getting used to the new bios of my abit nf7. iIs there anything that I should know about with the bios settings?

 

[CycloWizard]

There is no reason I can think of why a file sharing program should use any significant amount of CPU, nor should a web browser. I'm guessing there's something else going on. You'd do well to listen to dclive.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
after realizing that I'm a retard, I'll try to give some better info. I'm just getting confused alot because this system is very different than my last and they're are alot of different process' being run by windows I'm guessing. I've realized the problem is no with the actual amount of process', but with the usage of 1 or 2. I2hub, if your unfamiliar with it, is a file sharing program used on college campus'. while running, it is saying that it is consuming about 90% of my cpu usage. firefox will also run up alot of my cpu when it's the only program being used.

on a side note, I'm getting used to the new bios of my abit nf7. iIs there anything that I should know about with the bios settings?

Get rid of i2hub and see if your problems go away. And again, run MPS Reports (I have the link in my .sig) and run Microsoft's antispyware program (I have the link in my .sig).

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
after realizing that I'm a retard, I'll try to give some better info. I'm just getting confused alot because this system is very different than my last and they're are alot of different process' being run by windows I'm guessing. I've realized the problem is no with the actual amount of process', but with the usage of 1 or 2. I2hub, if your unfamiliar with it, is a file sharing program used on college campus'. while running, it is saying that it is consuming about 90% of my cpu usage. firefox will also run up alot of my cpu when it's the only program being used.

on a side note, I'm getting used to the new bios of my abit nf7. iIs there anything that I should know about with the bios settings?

Get rid of i2hub and see if your problems go away. And again, run MPS Reports (I have the link in my .sig) and run Microsoft's antispyware program (I have the link in my .sig).

1. Run MS's Antispyware (c'mon - third time. Be like Nike - Just Do It) to remove all the spyware that the filesharing apps allow on your system.

Then:

2. Update your nVidia drivers from their 2002 edition to a 2004 edition.

If you still have a problem:

3. Remove the hacked Omega drivers and put on normal ATI drivers.

And for future reference:

4. Remove any sharing programs. Running them nowadays is nuts.

 

[mechBgon]

Also try these two resources:

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer

Symantec online Security Scan and Virus Check, run both of the checks there, even if you think you're covered.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Also try these two resources:

Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer

Symantec online Security Scan and Virus Check, run both of the checks there, even if you think you're covered.

His problem is spyware - he's infected with it left and right. He's also running nVidia's driver set from 2002, rather than the current edition. Getting rid of the spyware and getting modern drivers should fix him up quite a bit.

 

[Wetzelman1]

I've had the ms antispyware on my computer from the day I installed windows, it's supposed to run scans automatically so I had been banking on not having any spyware. And after running it, It confirms that I don't have any spyware. As far as having old nvidia drivers, If your talking about my mobo drivers, I have the current one offered from abit's website. And the thing about the omega drivers shouldn't be a problem either because I Used them on my last comp and never had a problem.

Through my research, I've found that the nf7 v2 mobo's have had troubles enabling both L1 and L2 caches; it will usually only enable L1. Now what I haven't been able to find is a solution to this problem. Does anyone know what to do.
There could also be a bios problem that I'm unaware of. I'm unfamiliar with this new bios But I've finally figured out which bios they actually want me to run on my machine.

any thoughts using this information?

also, I2hub is an independantly run program created by a student at my school so it doesn't contain any spyware.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
I've had the ms antispyware on my computer from the day I installed windows, it's supposed to run scans automatically so I had been banking on not having any spyware. And after running it, It confirms that I don't have any spyware. As far as having old nvidia drivers, If your talking about my mobo drivers, I have the current one offered from abit's website. And the thing about the omega drivers shouldn't be a problem either because I Used them on my last comp and never had a problem.

Through my research, I've found that the nf7 v2 mobo's have had troubles enabling both L1 and L2 caches; it will usually only enable L1. Now what I haven't been able to find is a solution to this problem. Does anyone know what to do.
There could also be a bios problem that I'm unaware of. I'm unfamiliar with this new bios But I've finally figured out which bios they actually want me to run on my machine.

any thoughts using this information?

also, I2hub is an independantly run program created by a student at my school so it doesn't contain any spyware.

I do see now, from your MPS Reports, that you have MS Antispyware on your computer. Excellent. However, I see some odd drivers in very odd places:

amdmsrio AMDMSRIO \??\c:\docume~1\w...\locals~1\temp\safe to delete 3_0_4_8\amdmsrio.sys Kernel Driver No Manual Stopped OK

It's stopped and isn't running now, but I can't google this for anything. That's a _very_ unusual place for a normal driver, to say the least. Looks almost like it's in hiding...

and
amdpci AMDPCI \??\c:\docume~1\w...\locals~1\temp\amdpci.sys Kernel Driver Yes Manual Running OK Normal No Yes

..another very unusual place for a driver - wouldn't you agree? ..and this one's running.

Anyway, that's why I mentioned the antispyware tool. It could be those are nothing, but at the very least, it's odd to have a driver (or two) install in such odd places.

I suggest updating your nvidia drivers because they're badly out of date:

Module[112] [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\NV4_MINI.SYS]
Company Name: NVIDIA Corporation
File Description: NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Miniport Driver, Version 29.58
Product Version: (6.13:10.2958)
File Version: (6.13:10.2958)
File Size (bytes): 891711
File Date: Wed Aug 28 23:16:30 2002
Module TimeDateStamp = 0x3d36db84 - Thu Jul 18 08:15:16 2002

and

Module[113] [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\NVAPU.SYS]
Company Name: NVIDIA Corporation
File Description: NVIDIA® nForce(TM) Audio Driver
Product Version: (5.10:2920.0)
File Version: (5.10:2920.0)
File Size (bytes): 243840
File Date: Thu Dec 19 06:39:00 2002

...among many other very old releases of drivers. Abit didn't make the chipset; nVidia did. Go to nVidia for updates, not Abit.

As for the hacked Omega drivers, many drivers work fine on one computer, and not on another. It's just something easy to try.

Is there a current problem, though, now that you've tested without the sharing application running?

RE: Spyware and sharing apps - I should have said that it's crazy to run sharing apps nowadays due to the illegality of what's typically traded on them, and due to the simplicity in tracking them. It's only a matter of time before folks trading using those tools get rounded up for downloading, rather than (as is the current focus) for sharing music/videos/etc.

 

[helpmeout]

Looking at your CPU usage for Firefox, for example-- The figure you give for CPU usage is normal for RAM use, same with the other processes you list. Kind of a basic question, but are you looking at the wrong column? No insult intended.

 

[Wetzelman1]

i no that i mispoke (?) and said cpu usage and gave my memory usage. At first the memory usage was more alarming to me than the cpu usage but then i realized that the memory wasn't really the problem.

I also did find the new nvidia drivers and have installed them. I'm not sure about those other random driver locations. I've been loading in utilities from both the abit site and nvidia site, so i'd imagine that those drivers could've come from those other utilities I installed.

Still, these have not fixed the problem.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
i no that i mispoke (?) and said cpu usage and gave my memory usage. At first the memory usage was more alarming to me than the cpu usage but then i realized that the memory wasn't really the problem.

I also did find the new nvidia drivers and have installed them. I'm not sure about those other random driver locations. I've been loading in utilities from both the abit site and nvidia site, so i'd imagine that those drivers could've come from those other utilities I installed.

Still, these have not fixed the problem.

You have at least 2 devices that are possibly spyware/malware, so I suggest removing those by booting in safe mode, then renaming those directories that I gave you (just change one letter) then boot in normal mode and see if the issues go away.

Can you detail what the problem is again? CPU usage is at 100% for what applications? Just sort the applications by CPU usage (in Task Manager) and you can easily see what's eating all your CPU time.

 

[Wetzelman1]

this is what I notice is happening.

I boot up my computer, and everything runs fine if I'm just surfing the web or word processing or anythign of the sort. As soon as a run a more demanding program, the cpu usage immediately starts rising until it reaches around 85% or 90%. So far this hasn't been a problem, but I am a gamer and I specifically bought this new setup so I could run games such as half life 2. My brother has the exact same motherboard and cpu but his doesn't have the problem I do. I tend to disgagree that the problem is spyware or anything because this system is very new. The hardware I bought used, but I just put this setup together 3 days ago and reformatted everything and gave it a brand new start.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
this is what I notice is happening.

I boot up my computer, and everything runs fine if I'm just surfing the web or word processing or anythign of the sort. As soon as a run a more demanding program, the cpu usage immediately starts rising until it reaches around 85% or 90%. So far this hasn't been a problem, but I am a gamer and I specifically bought this new setup so I could run games such as half life 2. My brother has the exact same motherboard and cpu but his doesn't have the problem I do. I tend to disgagree that the problem is spyware or anything because this system is very new. The hardware I bought used, but I just put this setup together 3 days ago and reformatted everything and gave it a brand new start.

Spyware will infect an unprotected Windows system in (depending on who you talk to) around 40 minutes after it's placed directly on the public internet. That means you'll be owned in that time. I hope you're behind a router of some sort - given that you're in a college situation I suspect you are, but that won't stop bored college students from hacking you.

I suggest installing SP2, too, and then turning on MS's firewall.

Can you *try* safe mode, renaming those two directories, and seeing what happens? How about doing that, plus booting in safe mode and running MS Antispyware (doing a full system scan) in safe mode?

And again, what demanding programs are you running that hit 85-90% CPU? How long does it stay at that rate? What are you doing while it's at that rate?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Wetzelman1
this is what I notice is happening.

I boot up my computer, and everything runs fine if I'm just surfing the web or word processing or anythign of the sort. As soon as a run a more demanding program, the cpu usage immediately starts rising until it reaches around 85% or 90%. So far this hasn't been a problem, but I am a gamer and I specifically bought this new setup so I could run games such as half life 2. My brother has the exact same motherboard and cpu but his doesn't have the problem I do. I tend to disgagree that the problem is spyware or anything because this system is very new. The hardware I bought used, but I just put this setup together 3 days ago and reformatted everything and gave it a brand new start.

What antivirus software and firewall(s) are you using, Wetzelman1? Please be specific about versions, since saying "I have Norton" is like telling me your model of car by saying "it's a Ford and it has four wheels." "Norton Antivirus 2005 with the January 26th definitions, heuristics maxed and compressed-file scanning enabled" would be a fairly good answer

 

[Wetzelman1]

It's time for me to kill this thread.

After searching the I2hub site, I found out that there is a bug in the program that causes 100% cpu usage on some computers. This never happened on my old setup but does now. Apparently the cpu problem only has to do with the I2Hub program.

Thanks to all who gave me feedback and tried to remedy my problem.