100hz is necessary, right?

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Auric

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Also, do not neglect the noise factor. Hardware may produce different noise at different frequencies. If you have good hearing you may notice more noise or a difference in pitch at 85 MHz than 90 or 75, for instance.
 

Sunner

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<< Furthermore, don't believe the myth that it's bad to run your monitor at high refresh rates, even if your monitor supports them. Running your monitor at high refresh rates, as long as your monitor can support them, will not damage or cause any added stress to your monitor. I have confirmed this with multiple monitor manufactures. >>


From XP-Refresh.net.

I also believe Eizo has this somewhere on their site, saw it when I was checking out monitors a while back.

And on this site there are a bunch of tips for maximizing the life of your monitor, none mention refresh rate.

Got any links to prove otherwise?
 

NukemAll

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<<

<< Furthermore, don't believe the myth that it's bad to run your monitor at high refresh rates, even if your monitor supports them. Running your monitor at high refresh rates, as long as your monitor can support them, will not damage or cause any added stress to your monitor. I have confirmed this with multiple monitor manufactures. >>


From XP-Refresh.net.

I also believe Eizo has this somewhere on their site, saw it when I was checking out monitors a while back.

And on this site there are a bunch of tips for maximizing the life of your monitor, none mention refresh rate.

Got any links to prove otherwise?
>>



tha lack of info about refresh rates at the links you provide does nothing to support your assertion. You got to find factual evidence, not the lack thereof. I can find millions of sights that say nothing about monitors at all, that does not mean they don't display an image when properly connected and powered on.
 

NukemAll

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<<

<< Furthermore, don't believe the myth that it's bad to run your monitor at high refresh rates, even if your monitor supports them. Running your monitor at high refresh rates, as long as your monitor can support them, will not damage or cause any added stress to your monitor. I have confirmed this with multiple monitor manufactures. >>


From XP-Refresh.net.

I also believe Eizo has this somewhere on their site, saw it when I was checking out monitors a while back.

And on this site there are a bunch of tips for maximizing the life of your monitor, none mention refresh rate.

Got any links to prove otherwise?
>>



tha lack of info about refresh rates at the links you provide does nothing to support your assertion. You got to find factual evidence, not the lack thereof. I can find millions of sights that say nothing about monitors at all, that does not mean they don't display an image when properly connected and powered on.
 

Sunner

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Firstly, the first link I gave backed my claims explicitly.

How about backing up yours?
 

NukemAll

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<< Firstly, the first link I gave backed my claims explicitly.

How about backing up yours?
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You are right, there is something in there about it. However, The first link give no credit to the author, it is not a credible source. How can you give credit to an unknown source. A domain name, which is all it provides, in no way identifies a source as credible, no matter what that domain is. In any event, it merley states the same opinion you do, it provides no facts.

Back my statement up? How hard can this be? The higher the refresh rate, the more power(just like when you overclock a cpu, or install a higher clocked cpu of the same stepping). The more power, the more heat. You do know what heat is, don't you? Have you ever heard of electro and thermal migration? Both the Video card and the Monitor have integrated circuits processing the higher power and heat creating signals. This is not new info, this is not relatively unknown. It is widely known. Higher refrash rates increase power consumption, and consequently heat, regardless of whether or not it is "within manufactuers specifications," both of which cause electro and thermal migration. Now, lets bring in the fact that the electron gun(or guns if you have a trinitron) inside that monitor is laying down scan lines how many times per second? Yeah, more at higher refresh rates. It too consumes power and generates heat, along with electro magnetic radiation, not to mention the fact that it has a finite life, very much related to how many times it lays down scan lines. If one could define ahead of time the exact number of times a given electron gun will perform this function, simple math would tell you 60 times per second is gonna be a lot more seconds than 100 times per second, and more of a difference as you go higher., This may be science, but it is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. There is no way around it no matter what you believe, no matter what any unverifiable source tells you - HIGHER REFRESH RATES WILL LOWER THE LIFE OF YOUR MONITOR! OK, to Qualify that, HIGHER REFRESH RATES WILL LOWER THE LIFE OF YOUR MONITOR, WHEN COMPARED TO THE SAME MONITOR OPERATED AT LOWER REFRESH RATES!

DUH!!!!!!!!!!

OH, yeah...DUHHHH!!!


Can you spell D E N S E?
 

Dulanic

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Dont listen to this monkey. I used to do Monitor Repairs for a company, higher refresh rates do NOT shorten the life span of your monitor. Nor does it have any effect on your video card. Running a 3D games causes 1000x more stress (heat etc..) on a video card then running higher refresh... should we stop playing games too?
 

Insidious

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I tend to believe that the higher refresh rate : monitor life is more myth than fact, but have no evidence to back that up (ie: feel free to ignore my humble opinion)

Anyway, what I really wanted to mention is that the flicker you experience from your screen is related to the frequency of your line power because your lighting in the room is flickering at that rate!

Different types of lighting fixtures (halogen, incandescent, florescent, (etc.) have differing characteristics and will affect how sensitive your vision is to the flicker on your screen. Not to mention the status of your vision health and your own (very) unique internal methods of getting information from your eyes to your awarness.

For me, 75 is fine, but my screen appears sharper and colors are better defined at 85 or above. (I believe that is because of ME as much as it is because of my monitor (PF790)

So, if you are experiencing lots of flicker, try using a dimmer on your room lighting. (SCR controlled dimmers control the pulsewidth of the power applied to a lamp and affect it's ability to interract with your interpretation of the picture as your monitor refreshes.) Try switching the type of light source in your room (eg: incandescent to halogen etc.)

There is even a guy at work who swears wearing lightly tinted, polarized sunglasses stopped his headaches from flicker (I tend to believe it was getting of his bimbo of a girlfriend that stopped the headaches )

 

Sunner

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Well I threw a mail to Eizo's support myself, I'll paste their answer and we'll settle this
 

jm0ris0n

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I have a question:

Doesn't running the monitor at 100hz put out more radiation...etc that one running at 85?
 

Jgtdragon

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I am currently running 1280x1024@85hz. I like 85hz better than 75 and 100. My reason are at 75, there a flicker and at 100 the texts on the screen are abit fuzzy for my taste (The lower the hz the sharper the text). The sweet spot for me is 85hz.
 

Marty

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NukemAll you are an idiot.

How does a higher refresh rate increase power consumption? It doesn't - the electron gun is turned on for the same amount of time, it just scans more slowly. The same power is used. Increasing brightness and contrast are far more likely to lead to failure than playing with refresh rates ever will.

Marty

 
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