128 M 3dfx Vodoo 6000

[vulpeculla]

Does anyone have any information on this video card? Would you be able to post the web addy for this information? What is your opinion? I read that this card has 4 processors, 128M SGRAM, and its own power supply cord adapter outside the card...I read this in a pc magazine, which did not fully disclose the entire specs of the card and any test platform information.
Thanks

 

[BFG10K]

Avoid that overpriced power-hungry bloated monster at all costs. That "card" is a total joke and 3dfx can't seriously expect to sell more than 3 units.

-It won't fit a lot of cases given the card is the size of a surf-board.
-The power requirements are ridiculous for a video card. It's more like a motherboard rather than a video card.
-It will likely be eclipsed by any T&L enabled card in T&L games, and will likely be beaten in non-T&L games by a GF2 Ultra costing less and having more features.
-You will only have 54 MB of effective RAM from that 128 MB total due to the wasteful overheads of multi-processing.
-$600 is ridiculous for the features you are getting.

That card is a total rip-off. Don't even think about getting it.

 

[Ben]

Of course that's just BFG10K's opinion. We don't all agree with that.

 

[pen^2]

i for one do (agree with BFG). unless you are filthy rich, you must be a psycho to get cards with such outrageous price tags. at least GF2 Ultra has proven its capabilities, v5 6k would be terribly late even if it does have some power to spare.

 

[Witor]

Outta interest, when was the Original V5 6000 release date?

 

[Finality]

A year ago, but it was pushed back to ~4 months ago.

vulpeculla I am not sure if you are aware of this but the V5 6000 is actually aequivalent to 32 Megs of memory. Each VSA chip only has 32 Megs of Memory each. There is of course the board size....... You wll need a very very big case to fit this bad boy in.

 

[KarsinTheHutt]

<<<I am not sure if you are aware of this but the V5 6000 is actually aequivalent to 32 Megs of memory>>>

That's not entirely true from what I've read... someone get in here and explain how the memory is divided. Somesuch about shared buffers etc. etc.

 

[RoboTECH]

1) The 6000 will never be sold, unless some strange miracle happens in the next week or so.

2) The 6000 has a unified frame buffer, but the textures need to be repeated for each chip (4). so to find the actual useable memory on a 6000, you would subtract the frame buffer from 128, then divide the remaining number by 4, and add it to the frame buffer.

3) FXT1 gives an 8-to-1 compression ratio, and has very little loss in quality when the textures need to be compressed &quot;on-the-fly&quot;. Remember that when determining how much memory it has (and needs)

4) This is all moot. The 6000, as I said, is dead. As far as how fast it is/was/would've been, it oblitered the GTS-U in DirectX games, and was significantly faster in OGL in 1024 and 1280, and marginally faster @ 1600x1200. I don't know (nor do I care) what the 800 or 640 scores were.

5) FSAA on the 6000 obviously obliterated the GTS-U.

 

[Fozzie]

&quot;5) FSAA on the 6000 obviously obliterated the GTS-U.&quot;

We don't need to argue 3dfx AA vs nVidia AA here, certainly the 8X AA on the 6K would be impressive. However remember that FSAA is only one part of the image quality equation. I personally prefer Anistropic &amp; Trilinear filtering with 4x OGSS over mip-map dithering and no AA with RGSS. And I'm not the only one to think that way.

But the reason for this post is I wonder how you know the 6K &quot;obliterated&quot; the GTS-U in games. Did you happen to have one in your possession? Or were you going by specs? Perhaps leaked info from 3dx?



<< obliterated adj : reduced to nothingness >>



And even if the 6K was somewhat faster then a GTS-U in some games, I thought the battle cry is that 10-15 FPS means &quot;nothing&quot; and that image quality and features are of greater concern?

 

[sciencewhiz]

I did a few quick calculations, trying to figure out how fast a V$ 6000 might be. By comparing the speeds of a V4 and a V5, I was able to get the rough figure that at 1600x1200 32 bit the V$ 6000 would get aroung 70 FPS (10 more that the GF2 ultra). The Unreal Tourney numbers were even better, The V$ 6000 should obliterate the GF2 ultra.

 

[Duckers]

what if the Voodoo 5 6000 turns out to be by far the best video card????

Would you guys then consider paying its price??

 

[pen^2]

HELL NO.

 

[BFG10K]

it oblitered the GTS-U in DirectX games, and was significantly faster in OGL in 1024 and 1280, and marginally faster @ 1600x1200.

Where did you read this? Do you have a link to those benchmarks? I'd like to see them.

By comparing the speeds of a V4 and a V5, I was able to get the rough figure that at 1600x1200 32 bit the V$ 6000 would get aroung 70 FPS (10 more that the GF2 ultra).

Again I'd like to see some benchmarks to back up your claims. Idle speculation just doesn't cut it.

Would you guys then consider paying its price??

No way.

 

[BW]

I think it will still come out. I will buy one as soon as it does to. If it doesnt come out then i think they are planning somthing better to take its place before Christmas. Also ive read that the 128 megs on it will be like you really getting 64 becouse it has 4 chips on it.I know the 5500 is kinda like having 32 but the way the 4 chips work the sli it gives 64. I bougght a Radeon ddr and had it in a week before i put my 5500 back into my box. The 5500 is faster and if you tweak the settings in the drivers it looks as good to. 5500 drivers let you change all kinds of things.

 

[lsd]

<< 4) This is all moot. The 6000, as I said, is dead. As far as how fast it is/was/would've been, it oblitered the GTS-U in DirectX games, and was significantly faster in OGL in 1024 and 1280, and marginally faster @ 1600x1200. I don't know (nor do I care) what the 800 or 640 scores were. >>



right............
And the bitboys oye Video card was also shown to be 2x faster than the Nv20 in the duke nukem forever timedemo.

 

[Ben]

nevermind...

It ain't worth it...