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jjyiz28

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its all just 1 grand ole test by god. yes, god works in mysterious ways, if we all knew why god did this, why god did that, it would be easy for us to have faith in him. but what good is that for god?? god doesn't want ppl worshipping him if he just magically shows himself and gets rid of pain, disease, etc.. he wants ppl to worship him by having blind faith, instead of faith that is 100% certain.

remember Job?? he tested that bastard by killing his children, crops, etc.. and still praised god. its just a test, a sick one at that, whether you believe in his test is up to you.
 

DannyLove

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Not a bad paper except for the introduction. You could have written it without the "fvcking." Its obvious this paper is of your own opinion, if others got offended than thats their own problem. If you went outside the guidlines of the paper that is probably why. Its just a sad story about why you can't believe God murders people day by day. This subject can go in deep but i'm only answering from a "good paper" standpoint. I guess to answer your question I'd have to read what your instructure required of you from the paper.

BTW you said this was written 3 years ago? why are you sharing this now?

danny~!
 
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Originally posted by: DannyLove
I guess to answer your question I'd have to read what your instructure required of you from the paper.

BTW you said this was written 3 years ago? why are you sharing this now?

danny~!

The professor's awesome - she doesnt' give any guidelines.. Some people did poems, others wrote songs, etc. I'm posting this now because I found an old notebook today and it was tucked inside of it - it was a lost paper of sorts (with 2 other papers that i just found in it).. I thought some people would like it so I'm sharing it.. I already got my grade (obviously) and I got an A+.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
yawn.

Is it really boring? Woaw.. Never got that reaction.. Kids in my class were either crying or pissed.. I guess reading it out loud in person is different.. And college educated kids might have a different reaction than you guys

I think the idea of five pages of words scare some people on these boards.

I thought your paper was well written and very interesting; and I share many (but not all) of your beliefs.

I believe in god, and not a murderous one, but I don't have a clear answer for the questions you raised.

One thing I can sympathize with your class about is the whole jibe at Catholics in there. I was raised Catholic and I did my time as an altar boy. The priests I have met have never exhibited any hints of a perverse sexuality. Your comment about the priest and altar boys is unnescessary and untrue (in the context you were talking about a spiritual expereince, then you talk about a priest coming to grips with his sexuality. I fail to see the connection.)

Other than that, it is a good essay. Was this a college admissions essay, by chance? It reads alot like one.
 

MartyMcFly3

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I thought your paper was very good. Definitely better written than that Prom one the other guy wrote. You kind of have my sense of humor too which is cool, but then again im biased.
 

Allio

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Very well-written and a little thought-provoking. I personally didn't find it in the least bit offensive, but I can certainly see how highly religious types might.
 

SWScorch

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I liked it. I wasn't offended at all, but then again I'm inclined to agree with you.
 
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Originally posted by: SWScorch
I liked it. I wasn't offended at all, but then again I'm inclined to agree with you.

Glad you liked it.. The reaction here seems to be similar to my classes' - about 50% like it, 50% hate it
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
i think its a valid question: If there is a god why would he/she be such a bastard baby killing fvck? And how can any sane person try to rationalize infantacide, especially by a "supreme being"?

An all-loving supreme being.
 

scabilian1

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meh, lost my attention after the first page. i read through the rest though.

watch a debate titled "Is there meaning in Evil and Suffering"

has some execellent discussions and will provide the answers you were looking for in writing that paper.

you can download parts of the discussion in the link provided.
http://www.leaderu.com/events/rz/

ravi = my hero
 
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Originally posted by: scabilian1
meh, lost my attention after the first page. i read through the rest though.

watch a debate titled "Is there meaning in Evil and Suffering"

has some execellent discussions and will provide the answers you were looking for in writing that paper.

you can download parts of the discussion in the link provided.
http://www.leaderu.com/events/rz/

ravi = my hero

I'll check it out.. Thanks
 

skarydrunkguy

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cute. just because of my handle, you assume things about me. this paper was obviously written for the sole purpose of being 'controversial.' it expresses no original thought and merely rehashes the same pundit views on religion that one sees in the media (granted, not the tradition media, but its there) everyday. furthermore, no questions are raised in the paper. it's drivel and a waste of time. the questions that are explicitly asked are not even questions... they are more re-worded statements designed to lead, and mislead, the reader. i realize that this is an argumentative essay and that's its purpose, but frankly, i have no interest in reading materials that attempt to bastardize the sanctity of free thought on topics as immensly personal as the death of an child or religion... hence the 'yawn.' i thought that pretty much spoke for itself, but i guess you just have to explain everything to some people.

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
yawn.

Is it really boring? Woaw.. Never got that reaction.. Kids in my class were either crying or pissed.. I guess reading it out loud in person is different.. And college educated kids might have a different reaction than you guys

I think the idea of five pages of words scare some people on these boards.

I thought your paper was well written and very interesting; and I share many (but not all) of your beliefs.

I believe in god, and not a murderous one, but I don't have a clear answer for the questions you raised.

One thing I can sympathize with your class about is the whole jibe at Catholics in there. I was raised Catholic and I did my time as an altar boy. The priests I have met have never exhibited any hints of a perverse sexuality. Your comment about the priest and altar boys is unnescessary and untrue (in the context you were talking about a spiritual expereince, then you talk about a priest coming to grips with his sexuality. I fail to see the connection.)

Other than that, it is a good essay. Was this a college admissions essay, by chance? It reads alot like one.

 

blakeatwork

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That paper is too articulate to actually convey any sense of emotional grief or anger. It's so clinical and sterile, that it could probably be used to perform vasectomies...

Don't misunderstand me, as I can appreciate the anger and pain you and your family felt. My sympathies to you, but I don't understand how it made people cry or become distraught, unless you stressed the comments by the family and nothing else in your monologue.

thanks for the read though... got me out of work for a few minutes..
 

Viper GTS

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Formal paper or not, one of the basic tenets of writing is to not alienate your audience. You can't hope to have a receptive audience when you write like that.

It's OK for people to disagree with you, but if 50% of your audience is offended you've done something seriously wrong.

It applies to everything you do, not just writing. This seems to be a recurring theme with you.

Viper GTS
 

PatboyX

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Sigh, criticize it based on itself and not on rules of proper writing since this is not a formal paper..

these are not rules of writing formal papers but of writing.

too many adjectives; too pat. poor flow and it needs a constant tone.

content: often hard to comment on content like this and writing like this is usually designed (conciously or no) by the writer to impeed proper editing. seems immature and wandering without clear focus or knowledge of what is really being explored.
 
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Originally posted by: Citrix
what killed your nephew?

My sister had an over active immune system that treated the baby as a foreign object They found this out after she lost two babies, which is what's so frustrating...
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
i think its a valid question: If there is a god why would he/she be such a bastard baby killing fvck? And how can any sane person try to rationalize infantacide, especially by a "supreme being"?

Thats a brilliant thought if ever I've heardone.

Who spreads this idea that God does EVERYTHING.
God doesnt kill babies any more than he performs audits for the IRS.

God doesnt sit there over every single little thang ad say "audit, dead baby, late fee at blockbuster....".
It's his system, and he oversees it, but its not like God comes down and kills babies just because, gosh, you know, he sure is bored today....

People who perpetuate that idea are narrow minded people who need to SERIOUSLY take a step back and evaluate the words coming out of their mouth.

As for the OP....you knew the moment you decided to throw in the priest and altar boy bit what kind of reaction you would get. And you know what. You did it on purpose. Because assuming this story is true, you were mad at God, and if your mad at God you cant really leave him an angry voicemail, so you lashout at people who aren't angry at God.

You know exactly why it pissed people off, because they saw through it and you. People dont like someone getting pissed off and taking it out on them.
 

ucdbiendog

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good paper. i dont find it offensive at all, but i could definitely see how religious people would be offended. sorry about your nephew
 

JMaster

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if you really want to say things like the Bible is contradictory, you really need to do more research than just simply taking out of context different verses you've heard in sermons.
 
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