1987 Buick GNX

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justfrank

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I've always wondered how about the longevity of the GN, GNX eng. and trans. Never saw many GNs on the road for more than a few short years.

Mid 70's-mid 80s's GM V6s were some of the worst engines GM ever built.
 

arcenite

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I've always wondered how about the longevity of the GN, GNX eng. and trans. Never saw many GNs on the road for more than a few short years.

Mid 70's-mid 80s's GM V6s were some of the worst engines GM ever built.

The 3.8 is as solid of a motor as they get.
 

Ketchup

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I've always wondered how about the longevity of the GN, GNX eng. and trans. Never saw many GNs on the road for more than a few short years.

Mid 70's-mid 80s's GM V6s were some of the worst engines GM ever built.

I am surprised to hear you say that. The 3.8 was a well-built motor that had plenty of torque.
 

HAL9000

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Always wanted one of the T-types or GN's, never had one though. Had a buddy that had a few T-types back in the mid 90's though. Then I knew some twin brothers that had a pair of badass GN's in the late 90's that were far from stock, I always gawked at those.



This is like the 3rd thread that you had to tell us about your hate for the GN now, over and over again. We get it. For us state side though, it was one of the quickest things around (there weren't too many F40's on the streets here, sorry) back in the late 80's, there's a bit of nostalgia there. Telling us you think it's ugly 5 times in every thread that pops up about em isn't serving any purpose.

Nostalgia that is a reason to like it I suppose, same reason I love the film Jack.

Lots of cars could see nothing but it's rapidly disappearing tail lights in 1987. Very few cars could see anything else of it in a stoplight drag.

Saying it's hideous is meaningless. Looks are subjective. What you mean is that it's hideous to you.

It's boxy shape was common in the day. It did not look odd at all in 1987, save for the Darth Vader blackout treatment.

It looked menacing. It was menacing. It backed up the look.

If it showed up next to you in 1987, basically, you were already shut down.

By a V6 too, in the days when V8's ruled and anything else got no respect.

It looks menacing, yes I'm slightly scared of it, but only because it's so ugly, It's like I'd be slightly scared of that X-Factor woman who was really ugly, but became famous... can't remember her name.
 

justfrank

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One has to admit that the UK had more of its fair shares of fugly cars in the 80s too. Just watch a few episodes of Top Gear and anyone would have to agree.
For a US 80s car, the GN wasn't bad compared to most in that era.

As for GMs V6s, maybe it was other displacement versions I remember as not being very good? I was once given a low mileage, mint '82 Cutlass that was truely a POS. Fixed it up and sold it ASAP.
 

HAL9000

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One has to admit that the UK had more of its fair shares of fugly cars in the 80s too. Just watch a few episodes of Top Gear and anyone would have to agree.

Definitely, but I don't post pictures of them here saying "Nice car"

For a US 80s car, the GN wasn't bad compared to most in that era.

True, I just write off that era in American cars.
 

Ketchup

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As for GMs V6s, maybe it was other displacement versions I remember as not being very good? I was once given a low mileage, mint '82 Cutlass that was truely a POS. Fixed it up and sold it ASAP.

Depends which one. Was it a Cutlass/ Sierra/ Supreme? There was a 3.0 liter they put in the Sierra that didn't have quite the "oomph" as the 3.8.
 

AstroManLuca

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What a worthless, ugly piece of shit.

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Homer Simpson

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I've always wondered how about the longevity of the GN, GNX eng. and trans. Never saw many GNs on the road for more than a few short years.

Mid 70's-mid 80s's GM V6s were some of the worst engines GM ever built.
mine has 167,xxx miles and about 90 passes down the 1/4mi. engine is original. tranny too. ive got some bolt ons (turbo, injectors, etc) but the heads have never been off. i have had the valve covers off to upgrade the valve springs to heavier ones. that's about as much into the motor i've been. it leaks a little oil from the rear main seal, but 24lbs of boost will put some pressure on things over time, lol.
 

LTC8K6

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Definitely, but I don't post pictures of them here saying "Nice car"



True, I just write off that era in American cars.

You have no idea about that era in American cars, or any other cars, I suspect.

It's not legendary because I think it's pretty...try to comprehend that.

Calling it ugly really changes nothing about it being a legendary car. Ugly or not, it's still legendary.

It's legendary because it laid waste to nearly all challengers of it's day. It left them crying amid scorched pavement, and then it laughed all the way home, hoping another fool would try.

It was Thor's hammer, in Buick form. :biggrin:

There's no way you don't get what I'm saying, even if you don't know anything about the GNx.

No one is that dense.
 

AstroManLuca

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You have no idea about that era in American cars, or any other cars, I suspect.

It's not legendary because I think it's pretty...try to comprehend that.

Calling it ugly really changes nothing about it being a legendary car. Ugly or not, it's still legendary.

It's legendary because it laid waste to nearly all challengers of it's day. It left them crying amid scorched pavement, and then it laughed all the way home, hoping another fool would try.

It was Thor's hammer, in Buick form. :biggrin:

There's no way you don't get what I'm saying, even if you don't know anything about the GNx.

No one is that dense.

Stop trying. Hal IS that dense; you'll only frustrate yourself.
 

Ferzerp

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Density aside, the 80's were a dark time for cars (gotta love the big V8s with 185 HP! ugh).

GNX doesn't really fall in to that box though. It was an outlier.
 

justfrank

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True, I just write off that era in American cars.

Actually, almost all cars from everywhere in that era was less than ideal compared to more modern cars. In its day, the GN had more power stock than most back then.

Depends which one. Was it a Cutlass/ Sierra/ Supreme? There was a 3.0 liter they put in the Sierra that didn't have quite the "oomph" as the 3.8.

It was a RWD Supreme and was truely lacking power, way too slow for my tastes. Maybe a 3.4? Metric 200 trans. I know that it was a Buick eng, front mounted dist. and oil filter, external oil pump which I had to modify to stop its oil light from showing up at idle when warm. Besides that, oil was getting into its air cleaner from blow by. Had only 56K miles and was my father in laws car (bought it new). He gave it me because he couldn't drive anymore due to vision problems.
 

exdeath

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Just throw a Mercedes badge on it for Hal and it will blend in with all the ugly arse box Mercedes of the 80s (except be 3x faster and louder).
 

96Firebird

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It was a RWD Supreme and was truely lacking power, way too slow for my tastes. Maybe a 3.4? Metric 200 trans. I know that it was a Buick eng, front mounted dist. and oil filter, external oil pump which I had to modify to stop its oil light from showing up at idle when warm. Besides that, oil was getting into its air cleaner from blow by. Had only 56K miles and was my father in laws car (bought it new). He gave it me because he couldn't drive anymore due to vision problems.

My first winter car was a 4-door 1986 Cutlass Surpeme, but mine had the carbed 307 V8 in it. It was still slow, and guzzled gas like crazy. Tank of a car though, and never left me stranded. The only V6 in that generation Cutlass was the 3.8 Buick.
 

HAL9000

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What a worthless, ugly piece of shit.

OK.

You have no idea about that era in American cars, or any other cars, I suspect.

No, I don't because I haven't ever seen an American car from the 80's that I like, so I've never looked into it, there are quite a few American cars from the 60's that I like, so them I've looked it.

It's not legendary because I think it's pretty...try to comprehend that.

Calling it ugly really changes nothing about it being a legendary car. Ugly or not, it's still legendary.

It's legendary because it laid waste to nearly all challengers of it's day. It left them crying amid scorched pavement, and then it laughed all the way home, hoping another fool would try.

It was Thor's hammer, in Buick form. :biggrin:

There's no way you don't get what I'm saying, even if you don't know anything about the GNx.

No one is that dense.

I don't understand why anyone would want a brick that is fast in a straight line, so why this is impressive to anyone is beyond me.

Neither did I, but I could if it makes you feel any better

If you're the OP, then you implied it by saying "Its great seeing nice cars..."
 

Homer Simpson

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Actually, almost all cars from everywhere in that era was less than ideal compared to more modern cars. In its day, the GN had more power stock than most back then.



It was a RWD Supreme and was truely lacking power, way too slow for my tastes. Maybe a 3.4? Metric 200 trans. I know that it was a Buick eng, front mounted dist. and oil filter, external oil pump which I had to modify to stop its oil light from showing up at idle when warm. Besides that, oil was getting into its air cleaner from blow by. Had only 56K miles and was my father in laws car (bought it new). He gave it me because he couldn't drive anymore due to vision problems.
the 2bbl 3.8 used in other g-body cars (like the rwd cutlass) was an anemic boat anchor. (first car, 84 cutlass with 2bbl 3.8. slow. next car, 85 442, 307HO, better, but still slow). about the only thing the carbed motor shared with the turbo motor was the block and heads (technically, the turbo blocks had extra oil lines drilled for the turbo oiling system). the turbo motor was a technological wonder for its time. lots of electronics and other stuff.
 

Ketchup

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It was a RWD Supreme and was truely lacking power, way too slow for my tastes. Maybe a 3.4? Metric 200 trans. I know that it was a Buick eng, front mounted dist. and oil filter, external oil pump which I had to modify to stop its oil light from showing up at idle when warm. Besides that, oil was getting into its air cleaner from blow by. Had only 56K miles and was my father in laws car (bought it new). He gave it me because he couldn't drive anymore due to vision problems.

Unfortunately, that was horrible time for people who wanted any type of oomph from their cars. Most cars were still using large 70's designs, but engines were getting less and less powerful due to their compression ratios being cut.

I haven't heard much about the Buick 3.8, but I am sure it was slow pushing around a tank like that. Maybe you just had a lemon.
 

Zap

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If you're the OP, then you implied it by saying "Its great seeing nice cars..."

Try again.

I am the OP and you are taking it out of context.

"Coincidentally, a few minutes later I saw a yellow Lamborghini Gallardo going the opposite way. Kind of interesting to see nice cars out and about, especially since there were snow flurries that day."

That GNX wasn't "out and about" because it was sitting in a lot without a license plate. The Lamborghini Gallardo was "out and about" and being driven when there were snow flurries.
 
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