.20 Tip

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Do you tip the mexicans that cut your grass??? They're doing a much harder job than a waitress does. Do they not also provide a service?

I don't know if you even have a lawn, but usually the cost of lawn service is a bit different than a meal out.

Lawn service dudes are paid a bit more than the $2-3 per hour a waitress makes as a base.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: destrekor
Well to me, having worked in a restaurant (busser), I'd argue that a tip IS mandatory, but never a specific percentage. I'll give them something, and knowing that their wage is almost always under the state minimum by quite a large amount, that's why I kind of say its mandatory.

If a waiter makes $2.13/hr and doesn't get enough tip, the managers are supposed to make up the difference to minimum wage.
That is federal law.

Waiters in California make $9/hr which is the minimum wage there. Will you still tip them if you receive crap service?

The thing is 1) they aren't banking on just making minimum wage 2) if a waiter does do crappy last thing he is going to want to do is go to the GM and ask for his pay to be adjusted.

it's cheap fuckers that make me get so much attention and service in the restaurants I frequent and why time and time again you wonder why service sucks.

Usually a waiter can tell within the first few moments if the table is going to be screwing him on tip. It's usually the people all decked out in their finest clothes, chicks with counterfeit Chanel bags and talking loudly about dollar amounts of "deals" they are working meanwhile asking Iron Chef type questions at a $6-8 entree restaurant and expecting split second service.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

 

[alkemyst]

http://people.howstuffworks.com/tipping.htm

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Damn I've only had one blow job from a waitress whilst eating, looks like you've had double my luck.....

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

They get their pay whether they serve us well or not. No need to reward someone for something they already get paid for.

What has happened is that certain people believe that they should be getting tipped no matter what just because it's expected.

I can only go by what's here in Cali and they make minimum wage. If they're not making enough money on minimum wage, they can go find a better job.

You can throw away your money by tipping which is fine. Me, I won't just for basic service.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: destrekor
Well to me, having worked in a restaurant (busser), I'd argue that a tip IS mandatory, but never a specific percentage. I'll give them something, and knowing that their wage is almost always under the state minimum by quite a large amount, that's why I kind of say its mandatory.

If a waiter makes $2.13/hr and doesn't get enough tip, the managers are supposed to make up the difference to minimum wage.
That is federal law.

Waiters in California make $9/hr which is the minimum wage there. Will you still tip them if you receive crap service?

The thing is 1) they aren't banking on just making minimum wage 2) if a waiter does do crappy last thing he is going to want to do is go to the GM and ask for his pay to be adjusted.

it's cheap fuckers that make me get so much attention and service in the restaurants I frequent and why time and time again you wonder why service sucks.

Usually a waiter can tell within the first few moments if the table is going to be screwing him on tip. It's usually the people all decked out in their finest clothes, chicks with counterfeit Chanel bags and talking loudly about dollar amounts of "deals" they are working meanwhile asking Iron Chef type questions at a $6-8 entree restaurant and expecting split second service.

If they aren't banking on minimum wage, then why do so many people in tip threads post that they make less than minimum wage?

I'm sure what you say is true, however I get irritated when idiots keep mentioning that they make less than minimum wage as a reason for mandatory 15% tipping when in actuality they never make less than that.

 

[judasmachine]

My tipping policy:

Great service: 21 to 30%

Mediocre: 15 to 20%

Bad: 12 to 14%


Really Bad: I just stare at them.

For a large group, I usually tip what the standard gratuity is on the check unless something truly horrible or truly superb happens.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Tipping D-bag waiters 101

1. Get yourself a CLEAR empty water glass (the bigger the better).
2. Fill it with water until it nearly overflows.
3. Take about $1-$2 of change out of your pocket.
4. Plop change into glass off water.
5. Wait until change sinks all the way to the bottom of the glass (very important!).
6. Add more water making sure the glass is overflowing
7. Place folded paper dinner napkin on top of glass. The napkin will become wet but this is necessary.
8. Carefully and quickly flip over the glass of water on the table so that the bottom of the glass is pointing towards the ceiling. This is also know as "upside down".
9. Watch the change sink to the napkin.
10. Stare in amazement as the water does not leak out!
11. Notice how it looks as if there is some loose change under an "empty" glass (savvy waitstaff will conclude this is a gratuity, and be grateful; your plan has worked!).
12. Leave in a quick but orderly fashion.
13. Paying the check is optional (consult your local and state laws).
14. Plan on never visiting that restaurant again.

 

[sutahz]

Why did tipping go from 10% to 15%? As the price of goods goes up, so does the tip. A sandwich that cost $2.50 7yrs ago now costs $7 let's say. So if the same waiter worked there his tip would go from $.25 to $.7 for doing the exact same thing (given he gave good service). But hey, if I worked a job ppl gave tips out I'd want a higher percentage too, cause hey, free money right?

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
For a large group, I usually tip what the standard gratuity is on the check unless something truly horrible or truly superb happens.

I see no reason to tip for a large group if they're already adding an 18% gratuity to the meal price.
That's their tip.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

 

[Beev]

I went to a local place two weeks ago. We were seated, and then throughout the meal at least three tables that came in after us got their drinks, food, and check faster than us, and we never got refills either. I left no tip.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: sutahz
Why did tipping go from 10% to 15%? As the price of goods goes up, so does the tip. A sandwich that cost $2.50 7yrs ago now costs $7 let's say. So if the same waiter worked there his tip would go from $.25 to $.7 for doing the exact same thing (given he gave good service). But hey, if I worked a job ppl gave tips out I'd want a higher percentage too, cause hey, free money right?

When was a tip for good service anything but 15-20%? 10%!?!?! You learned your tipping etiquette Jacob Marley.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Lothar

Originally posted by: Farang
Delivery drivers are an exception because you're given some leeway on tipping them while also being responsible to cover their gas/maintenence in most cases (the restuarant pays half, at best, of those, sometimes nothing at all). $2 standard.

If they charge a delivery fee like most of the major pizza outlets already do, they won't see any extra money coming out from my pocket.

I think it depend on the charge. If you know that it doesn't cover gas and maintenence (AAA calculated at $.60/mile iirc) and insurance, you should tip extra. So a lot of places that $1.50 you are just taking advantage of the fact that they expect a tip on top of that. If it is papa johns and they are charging $3, ok I agree with you (although I still tip $1 at least)

Consider this coupled by the fact I don't take up a dine in table.

A lot of local pizza places have like 3 tables since nobody eats there.

 

[JJ650]

If the service was acceptable, I'll pay whatever I feel is commiserate with the service/quality I received. The better I get, the better I'll give.
But, for it to be expected is a little too presumptious. Those who expect a tip usually don't do as good a job compared to the individual hoping for a tip, and working a bit harder in order to get it.
Crap service = little or no tip

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

Then don't eat out at a service restaurant you super-sized asshole.

EDIT: Seriously, you go into the restaurant knowing that you should tip these people who are serving you food. Not doing so disregards your social obligations. You are a grade A prick and I wish I could punch you in the face.

(PSA: I am NOT involved in the service industry at all)

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

Then don't eat out at a service restaurant you super-sized asshole.

SWEET JESUS! He's the asshole?
He's not giving you orders. What the fuck is your problem?

There is no law requiring him to tip and even if there were, you are not a law-enforcement officer.
Pull head from ass please.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Tipping D-bag waiters 101

1. Get yourself a CLEAR empty water glass (the bigger the better).
2. Fill it with water until it nearly overflows.
3. Take about $1-$2 of change out of your pocket.
4. Plop change into glass off water.
5. Wait until change sinks all the way to the bottom of the glass (very important!).
6. Add more water making sure the glass is overflowing
7. Place folded paper dinner napkin on top of glass. The napkin will become wet but this is necessary.
8. Carefully and quickly flip over the glass of water on the table so that the bottom of the glass is pointing towards the ceiling. This is also know as "upside down".
9. Watch the change sink to the napkin.
10. Stare in amazement as the water does not leak out!
11. Notice how it looks as if there is some loose change under an "empty" glass (savvy waitstaff will conclude this is a gratuity, and be grateful; your plan has worked!).
12. Leave in a quick but orderly fashion.
13. Paying the check is optional (consult your local and state laws).
14. Plan on never visiting that restaurant again.

Not many places left for you to dine at eh? :laugh:

 

[ViviTheMage]

If it's a place I frequent I will live a good tip, but if they suck at somewhere I have never been, they will get nothing or a small amount.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

What's a type? Are you trolling or are you this dense for a 28 year old, never had a job, lives with his parents, virgin?

Please tell me you know how the Restaurant industry pay structure for servers is and you're just being a trolling asshole?

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

Then don't eat out at a service restaurant you super-sized asshole.

SWEET JESUS! He's the asshole?
He's not giving you orders. What the fuck is your problem?

There is no law requiring him to tip and even if there were, you are not a law-enforcement officer.
Pull head from ass please.

Actually, yes he is still the asshole. My problem is that he goes into the restaurant knowing that these people get paid based solely on tips (in most states it is this way).
He goes into the restaurant knowing that he is going to stiff the waiter.
He gives them orders KNOWING he isnt going to pay them for their service.

My problem is that he doesn't tip PERIOD when he goes to a restaurant that provides sit down service. And you are supporting this kind of behavior? If you go to a restaurant and you don't tip (not withstanding horrible service), then you are an asshole. This is 100% truth. There is no way around it.

If you don't like tipping, then don't go to the restaurants where the servers rely on your tips for their pay. Don't try and skirt the rules because tipping is based on an honor system.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

So basically you are the asshole that the entire restaurant industry hates?

Sure, the entie industry thinks they deserve the tip because they provide you service. I will not type unless someone does something above normal duty of their work.

What's a type? Are you trolling or are you this dense for a 28 year old, never had a job, lives with his parents, virgin?

Please tell me you know how the Restaurant industry pay structure for servers is and you're just being a trolling asshole?

I am guessing he is foreign. He goes into restaurants acting "foreign" so he can act like he doesn't know to tip. Then he gets away with it, and continues living life in his parents basement. And he continues to cry himself asleep at night because he is a lonely cheapskate.