2005 GTO

[Kadarin]

I like it...

 

[Ikonomi]

"The best ever, just got better."

Well, I guess punctuation isn't Pontiac's forte. Nice car, though.

 

[Sysbuilder05]

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...v316/wichita/GTO_1.jpg

Now thats a GTO,I owned one just like this pic right down to the color and black vinyl roof. Its a 1968 model,bought it in 1971. I agree with another post,the new one looks like a Grand Am with lots of extras tacked on.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

id still take a Holden HSV looking at that

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: M13
If it still uses the outdated pushrod, forget it!!!!!! Besides, it probably will get recalled like the Ford Gt. I'd rather get an Aston Martin or a Ferrari 430. At least they look cooler.

That is one irrational/unimformed post. Go take your head out of your ass.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: M13
If I am spewing, then give me examples of the muscle cars holding up under some real performance. All my stuff aside still doesn't give any credence to vettes, cameros, etc.
PLEASE give me performance stats that are tested and can actually prove superiority of the Am muscle cars.
You guys haven't given me any reason to believe otherwise.

We shouldn't do the legwork for you. If you want to talk like you know something about cars, you'd actually spend time reading about them. And if you did that, you'd know the capabilities of the Corvettes, Camaros, Vipers, and Mustang 5.0's.

 

[SWScorch]

I saw one on the freeway a few days ago. As it drove behind me for half a mile, I glanced in my rearview mirror and thought "Oh look, a GrandAm behind me." Then it passed me, and I said, "Goodbye, GrandA- wait, that says GTO? THAT'S the new GTO? Good grief."

It's a sweet car, especially the 05, but they really should have done something to make it stand out from every other Pontiac out there. To be sure, auto enthusiasts can spot it a mile away from the subtle styling cues, but the average person won't, and it simply doesn't look like a GTO! My gf's father has a '69 GTO, and that car is damn sweet. There is no doubt in anyone's mind when they see it, that it is a powerful car. Not so with the new one.

 

[captains]

i wants

 

[conjur]

They're getting closer to losing all the boy-racer looks to every Pontiac. That goofy-looking hood is just....fugly.

The interior is probably the best Pontiac has ever done but it still looks plasticy.

 

[CraigRT]

Too bad we dont get this car in Canada for SOME reason.... it's a freaking Pontiac!!!

I love it though.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

There is an idiot like M13 in every car thread.

Even if M13's argument had some merit, and I'm not saying that it does, the point gets lost in his sheer stupidity and bias.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
There is an idiot like M13 in every car thread.

Even if M13's argument had some merit, and I'm not saying that it does, the point gets lost in his sheer stupidity and bias.

why keep feeding the troll? just tune him out like i did

 

[hpkeeper]

bah, I'm no motor head, but as far as looks are concerned... I like the 2005 Ford Mustang better.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
I saw one on the freeway a few days ago. As it drove behind me for half a mile, I glanced in my rearview mirror and thought "Oh look, a GrandAm behind me." Then it passed me, and I said, "Goodbye, GrandA- wait, that says GTO? THAT'S the new GTO? Good grief."

It's a sweet car, especially the 05, but they really should have done something to make it stand out from every other Pontiac out there. To be sure, auto enthusiasts can spot it a mile away from the subtle styling cues, but the average person won't, and it simply doesn't look like a GTO! My gf's father has a '69 GTO, and that car is damn sweet. There is no doubt in anyone's mind when they see it, that it is a powerful car. Not so with the new one.

How do you figure? The old GTO was just a tarted up Le Mans with a hood scoop and dual exhaust. For its time, the design wasn't any more daring than the new GTO.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: SWScorch
I saw one on the freeway a few days ago. As it drove behind me for half a mile, I glanced in my rearview mirror and thought "Oh look, a GrandAm behind me." Then it passed me, and I said, "Goodbye, GrandA- wait, that says GTO? THAT'S the new GTO? Good grief."

It's a sweet car, especially the 05, but they really should have done something to make it stand out from every other Pontiac out there. To be sure, auto enthusiasts can spot it a mile away from the subtle styling cues, but the average person won't, and it simply doesn't look like a GTO! My gf's father has a '69 GTO, and that car is damn sweet. There is no doubt in anyone's mind when they see it, that it is a powerful car. Not so with the new one.

How do you figure? The old GTO was just a tarted up Le Mans with a hood scoop and dual exhaust. For its time, the design wasn't any more daring than the new GTO.

EXACTLY. The old GTO is nothing special. All it has going for it is the nostalgia factor. The same crap that people are whining over the new GTO for happened with the new Malibu, too. The old Malibu was just a crappy grocery getter - just like the new one is (except better in every way). This new GTO is better than the old in every possible way (subjective points aside).

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: SWScorch
I saw one on the freeway a few days ago. As it drove behind me for half a mile, I glanced in my rearview mirror and thought "Oh look, a GrandAm behind me." Then it passed me, and I said, "Goodbye, GrandA- wait, that says GTO? THAT'S the new GTO? Good grief."

It's a sweet car, especially the 05, but they really should have done something to make it stand out from every other Pontiac out there. To be sure, auto enthusiasts can spot it a mile away from the subtle styling cues, but the average person won't, and it simply doesn't look like a GTO! My gf's father has a '69 GTO, and that car is damn sweet. There is no doubt in anyone's mind when they see it, that it is a powerful car. Not so with the new one.

How do you figure? The old GTO was just a tarted up Le Mans with a hood scoop and dual exhaust. For its time, the design wasn't any more daring than the new GTO.

uh huh. compared to today's car, it looks tough. back then, appearance and perception wise, it was probably the equivalent of an SVT Contour, Neon SRT-4, Audi S4, Integra Type R, AMG merc, etc.

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
they are rebadged holden monaro's, from australia. top gear tested one and loved it to death.

link

Precisly what the old school GTO is. In 1964 pontiac put a 3889 into a lemans ang called it a gto, the REBADGED A CAR!! Pontiac is faithfully recreating the same event. I hate all these arm chair auto know it alls.

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: M13
GTO VALVETRAIN: 2 Over Head Valves per Cyl w/Pushrod Acuation

This the outmoded pushrod that US cars use. Europe hasn't used this in years. No wonder the US can't design a decent performance car.

Ck out what Europe and Japan use instead.

SHUT UP YOU FOOL. We dont want any piece of sh!t overhead cam bullshit. WHy is it that there are no DOHC or OHC in nascar or drag racing or any motorsports that have any real balls to them? Dummy

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
i wonder what GM is going to do after the LS2, they are not going to be able to bore it out much more (motor trend listed it as having only .5 or .05 mm left to bore out) they are going to have to staright changing other things on the engine to make it more powerful. god, a SC/Turbo would be godly stock from the factory on an LS2 engine.

MIKE

With .5 left to bore out the possibilties never end. Maye you ment .05??? because .5 is a half inch.

 

[KillyKillall]

Ugly...I'd rather have the 2005 Mustang GT or the upcoming Cobra.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Munchies
SHUT UP YOU FOOL. We dont want any piece of sh!t overhead cam bullshit. WHy is it that there are no DOHC or OHC in nascar or drag racing or any motorsports that have any real balls to them? Dummy

What defines "real balls"? Would you consider F1, IRL or Champcar motorsports lacking marbles?

edit: Yea, Triumph said what I was thinking, but more eloquently.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Munchies

Originally posted by: M13
GTO VALVETRAIN: 2 Over Head Valves per Cyl w/Pushrod Acuation

This the outmoded pushrod that US cars use. Europe hasn't used this in years. No wonder the US can't design a decent performance car.

Ck out what Europe and Japan use instead.

SHUT UP YOU FOOL. We dont want any piece of sh!t overhead cam bullshit. WHy is it that there are no DOHC or OHC in nascar or drag racing or any motorsports that have any real balls to them? Dummy

Come on now. I'm defending the pushrods too, but you're making us both look bad. You're saying that F1, JGTC, WRC, aren't credible racing venues? Or that Nascar and drag racing are the be all/end all of motorsports??? F1 is the pinnacle of automotive tech, their entire existence is practically based on technology development. They don't use anything that doesn't make the car faster, within the rules. And they use overhead cams.

Recently C&D did a piece on a Dodge Nextel Cup car. Test drove it, talked about it, etc. Really cool article. But there's an interesting quote in there from one of the Dodge crew members: "If you wanted to build a race car, this wouldn't be how you'd do it." 'Nuff said.

 

[Kelemvor]

I'm looking into a 2005 G6 to replace my Grand Am because it's bigger and I have a 2 door now. Might see if they still do those 24 hr test drive things and see how it works.

 

[SWScorch]

Originally posted by: DougK62

EXACTLY. The old GTO is nothing special. All it has going for it is the nostalgia factor. The same crap that people are whining over the new GTO for happened with the new Malibu, too. The old Malibu was just a crappy grocery getter - just like the new one is (except better in every way). This new GTO is better than the old in every possible way (subjective points aside).

Maybe. I wasn't around back then so I don't know how it was recieved by the public. Perhaps it is because it's simply an older car now that it's so impressive. But I still think Pontiac should have styled the new GTO just a little more aggressively. Of course, as I said initially, it's bland exterior doesn't negate it's internal awesomeness. I'd still take one

 

[Crucial]

I drove the 2004 around the course at the GM auto show in motion about 7 times. I don't really like the exterior at all but after driving the car I would buy one in a second. It was outstanding with 350hp, with the LS2 it will be phenominal. I drove the C6 Corvette at the show as well. It had gobs of power that just wouldn't stop.