2009 NBA Finals

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Originally posted by: Playmaker
I really dislike Dwight Howard after this postseason. I used to be a fan after he put up big numbers for my fantasy team, but watching him live this postseason has proven two facts ...

1) He looks like a European soccer player after every foul. He gets this whiny look on his face and complains even when the foul is blatant. Also, he commits 10-12 fouls per game and doesn't get called for half that.

2) He throws enough elbows to make Charles Oakley blush, and no one ever seems to discuss this. Dirrrrty player. Dirty.

Or maybe I'm just bitter due to the fact that, as an unbiased fan of a team that did not make the playoff, I find LeBron a LOT more entertaining than Howard and want the Cavs to win.

well duh... dwight howard is still developting his offensive sets.. pretty much all he can do is to dunk the ball.
maybe he can develop a jumper in a year or two but lbj23 is one of those once in a while, special players
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: Playmaker
I really dislike Dwight Howard after this postseason. I used to be a fan after he put up big numbers for my fantasy team, but watching him live this postseason has proven two facts ...

1) He looks like a European soccer player after every foul. He gets this whiny look on his face and complains even when the foul is blatant. Also, he commits 10-12 fouls per game and doesn't get called for half that.

2) He throws enough elbows to make Charles Oakley blush, and no one ever seems to discuss this. Dirrrrty player. Dirty.

Or maybe I'm just bitter due to the fact that, as an unbiased fan of a team that did not make the playoff, I find LeBron a LOT more entertaining than Howard and want the Cavs to win.

Most "star" players whine at the refs. Also, the foul calls in the playoffs have been so inconsistent that he probably doesn't have much of an idea what will and will not be called a foul.

He's not a dirty player. There's always elbows flashing in the paint.

Oakley went out of his way to hurt other players, or at least get under their skin. He would often seek to hit and push other players after the whistle had blown, when the refs weren't looking.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Playmaker
I really dislike Dwight Howard after this postseason. I used to be a fan after he put up big numbers for my fantasy team, but watching him live this postseason has proven two facts ...

1) He looks like a European soccer player after every foul. He gets this whiny look on his face and complains even when the foul is blatant. Also, he commits 10-12 fouls per game and doesn't get called for half that.

2) He throws enough elbows to make Charles Oakley blush, and no one ever seems to discuss this. Dirrrrty player. Dirty.

Or maybe I'm just bitter due to the fact that, as an unbiased fan of a team that did not make the playoff, I find LeBron a LOT more entertaining than Howard and want the Cavs to win.

Most "star" players whine at the refs. Also, the foul calls in the playoffs have been so inconsistent that he probably doesn't have much of an idea what will and will not be called a foul.

This

The foul calls have been bad in this post-season and especially bad in this Cavs/Magic series.
 

vi edit

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Basketball is pretty much like football...there's usually a foul/penalty on every play. It's just a matter of where the ref is looking and if he feels like calling it. Some are more blanent than others. Sometimes the ref has a worse angle than the cameras. Sometimes the history of the player plays into it.

 

jinduy

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Playmaker
I really dislike Dwight Howard after this postseason. I used to be a fan after he put up big numbers for my fantasy team, but watching him live this postseason has proven two facts ...

1) He looks like a European soccer player after every foul. He gets this whiny look on his face and complains even when the foul is blatant. Also, he commits 10-12 fouls per game and doesn't get called for half that.

2) He throws enough elbows to make Charles Oakley blush, and no one ever seems to discuss this. Dirrrrty player. Dirty.

Or maybe I'm just bitter due to the fact that, as an unbiased fan of a team that did not make the playoff, I find LeBron a LOT more entertaining than Howard and want the Cavs to win.

Most "star" players whine at the refs. Also, the foul calls in the playoffs have been so inconsistent that he probably doesn't have much of an idea what will and will not be called a foul.

This

The foul calls have been bad in this post-season and especially bad in this Cavs/Magic series.

howard's been especially screwed on the calls. kobe's one of the biggest whiners, but he does it in a subtle way to be just shy of drawing a T. but he's up there with howard with 5 Ts.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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dwight howard's not getting called for fouls like he did in game 5..delonte west and lbj go right into his body drawing contact and no whistle.

i don't really mind it but it's so fuckin inconsistent!
 

ProfJohn

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Is it over yet?? Would take one hell of a come back for the Cavs now. Can't imagine they can do it away from home.
 

jinduy

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
come cavs...come back

not the magic in the finals again...ugh

1995 was the last time they've been to the finals... lol

cavs went there 2 or 3 years ago against the spurs
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: jinduy
Originally posted by: wkabel23
come cavs...come back

not the magic in the finals again...ugh

1995 was the last time they've been to the finals... lol

cavs went there 2 or 3 years ago against the spurs

what i am referring to is how shitty they performed in those finals. and how i am expecting a similar outcome vs. the lakers.
 

chin311

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: jinduy
Originally posted by: wkabel23
come cavs...come back

not the magic in the finals again...ugh

1995 was the last time they've been to the finals... lol

cavs went there 2 or 3 years ago against the spurs

what i am referring to is how shitty they performed in those finals. and how i am expecting a similar outcome vs. the lakers.

this season:

cavs vs lakers = cavs 0-2
magic vs lakers = magic 2-0

 

hbui

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what i am referring to is how shitty they performed in those finals. and how i am expecting a similar outcome vs. the lakers.

That is just like saying if you act like a moron one day, I can expect you to be a moron for the rest of your life?
It's been 14 years. This is a completely different magic team.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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disappointed by lebron's effort tonight.

ps. now nike can stop playing those stupid commercials
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: hbui
what i am referring to is how shitty they performed in those finals. and how i am expecting a similar outcome vs. the lakers.

That is just like saying if you act like a moron one day, I can expect you to be a moron for the rest of your life?
It's been 14 years. This is a completely different magic team.

way to read into it way too much. :roll:

i'm expressing my discontent with the finals matchup.

congrats magic fans, magic outplayed the cavs and certainly deserve the trip. i just think theyre going to lose.

 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: chin311
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: jinduy
Originally posted by: wkabel23
come cavs...come back

not the magic in the finals again...ugh

1995 was the last time they've been to the finals... lol

cavs went there 2 or 3 years ago against the spurs

what i am referring to is how shitty they performed in those finals. and how i am expecting a similar outcome vs. the lakers.

this season:

cavs vs lakers = cavs 0-2
magic vs lakers = magic 2-0

the Magic had Jameer Nelson both games. putting in about 27 and 28 points. Both games were extremely close.

The magic will need Alston to put up a good game and Pietrus to continue doing well.
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ummm the Magic beat the Lakers both times they met this year.

It should be a good series.

when you expect a good series, it usually turns out to be the opposite
 

herkulease

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way to show sportsmanship LeBron, bolts for the locker room. Doesn't even bother to stay and at least shake hands, pat on the back whatever.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: herkulease
way to show sportsmanship LeBron, bolts for the locker room. Doesn't even bother to stay and at least shake hands, pat on the back whatever.

No worse than Dwight Howard shooting a 3-pter at the end of the game.
 
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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: herkulease
way to show sportsmanship LeBron, bolts for the locker room. Doesn't even bother to stay and at least shake hands, pat on the back whatever.

No worse than Dwight Howard shooting a 3-pter at the end of the game.
Dwight did it just to be silly, no insult intended. LBJ was a douche running off like that.
 
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