2013-2014 TV Death Watch

[momeNt]

The contest was just a beauty show.

Yea I know but it has to do with fan support. US market did really poorly second season, but they also changed the time slot.

I watch off-hours anyways so the time doesn't affect me, but it does affect the ratings. But I think they have data on viewings on their own website and places like Hulu and Netflix.

Not sure how much netflix instant streaming nets a Tv show though, no commercials.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Did any of you watch Crisis? I'm not sure how it got made with such a terrible script and acting, yet for some reason I still want to know what's going on.

I watched it..seemed like it could go either way but I'm intrigued to see where it goes.

Also watched From Dusk Till Dawn - not sure if I care.

Also watched Resurrection - this I'm at least interested in because it reminds of me the 4400. I have a feeling I'll be really disappointed though.

Now...a new show I did watch and REALLY liked is AMC's new show Those Who Kill. Just the pilot..but has great potential..and it's AMC who's been on a run.

 

[techs]

I watched it..seemed like it could go either way but I'm intrigued to see where it goes.

Also watched From Dusk Till Dawn - not sure if I care.

Also watched Resurrection - this I'm at least interested in because it reminds of me the 4400. I have a feeling I'll be really disappointed though.

Now...a new show I did watch and REALLY liked is AMC's new show Those Who Kill. Just the pilot..but has great potential..and it's AMC who's been on a run.

iirc its already been cancelled

 

[ImpulsE69]

iirc its already been cancelled

Hah..wouldn't surprise me

 

[RossMAN]

Now...a new show I did watch and REALLY liked is AMC's new show Those Who Kill. Just the pilot..but has great potential..and it's AMC who's been on a run.

I'm still pissed that AMC killed Rubicon, it had real potential

 

[Hugh Jass]

Word is, Bryan Fuller already has solid offers from more than one cable network if NBC decides to cancel Hannibal. Amazon has also expressed interest in adding it to its Instant Video streaming service.

 

[Kev]

Word is, Bryan Fuller already has solid offers from more than one cable network if NBC decides to cancel Hannibal. Amazon has also expressed interest in adding it to its Instant Video streaming service.

That would be great. Imagine if Hannibal didn't have to hold back for network TV. Actually nevermind, I don't think it can get much worse than season 2 episode 2.

 

[nageov3t]

I'm still pissed that AMC killed Rubicon, it had real potential

I don't know if it's AMC's fault or not, but there was a huge backlash against Rubicon over how it was premiered -- TV guide, DVR recording listings, etc all showed a 2-hour season finale episode of Breaking Bad scheduled when in fact it was really 1 hour of Breaking Bad bundled with the Rubicon pilot.

 

[lupi]

The 100 starting out high enough to likely get a renewal.

Vikings giving a third year to raid.

Almost Human finishes the year tied as second best non-anime show on fox, no official word yet so there is still a chance.....

 

[Phanuel]

Oh, Almost Human might make it? Hrr. I like Karl Urban, but I will be surprised if this show gets a 2nd season it just seems like it could easily be completely unpopular.

 

[blankslate]

I'm still pissed that AMC killed Rubicon, it had real potential

I wholeheartedly agree.

However, the pace of the early episodes were bound to turn off some people no matter how well the later episodes rewarded patience.

I'll have to get the box set.


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[Imp]

Werd that British shows get like 7 million viewers for popular shows whereas US shows get roughly the same... despite having 4-5 times the population. Ya, way more competition, but werd.

Edit: OMG... It's the NCIS: New Orleans crossover tonight. Completely forgot this was in the works. Well, at least it has Scott Bakula.

 

[techs]

Werd that British shows get like 7 million viewers for popular shows whereas US shows get roughly the same... despite having 4-5 times the population. Ya, way more competition, but werd.

Edit: OMG... It's the NCIS: New Orleans crossover tonight. Completely forgot this was in the works. Well, at least it has Scott Bakula.

Not really. Notice how many British shows are remade in America. There is enough of a cultural divide that Americans want to see shows made in America and the same for Britain.

Also, there are far fewer episodes of British shows and each "season" is more like a self contained mini series. Look at how American shows get high viewer ship for the first few shows and then it tails off. In Britain people are more likely to stick with a short season show. In America people decide early if they want to stick with a 20+ episode season

 

[nageov3t]

22-episode American seasons are exhausting.

I'm trying to watch Parenthood, but as much as I'm enjoying the show, I think about 5 seasons, 22 episodes/season to catch up on before I can watch it live and I get tired. (currently at Season 1 E10 and probably only watching 2-3 episodes/week at max)

 

[BladeVenom]

Also, there are far fewer episodes of British shows and each "season" is more like a self contained mini series.

That's one thing I don't like about British TV. A season (series in the UK) can be as little as 3 episodes. Although 6 is more typical, but even 6 seems to short to me.

 

[techs]

That's one thing I don't like about British TV. A season (series in the UK) can be as little as 3 episodes. Although 6 is more typical, but even 6 seems to short to me.

Plus there is no "fall" season. Shows begin seemingly at random during the year.
One thing about the short season and the fewer shows in Britain is that a larger amount of people per capita view the shows there. It makes many of their shows "water cooler" shows so people tend to stick with them to discuss with their friends.
I got that from my friends in a Brit populated forum.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

22-episode American seasons are exhausting.

Funny, I now find the cable standard of 10-13 episodes to be far too short. Before 22-24 became the standard sometime in the 70s shows could run a lot longer. Back in the 50s shows I Love Lucy, Leave it to Beaver and The Twilight Zone had seasons that ran 35-39 episodes.

The real beauty of modern TV is the staggered seasons. It used to be that everything started in September, finished in early May and there was never anything new in the down periods. Now as things like Justified and Shameless are nearing the end of their seasons Game of Thrones and Mad Men are getting ready to return. Even with the shorter cable seasons there are so many more series to choose from there's always something worthwhile to follow.

 

[BladeVenom]

10 to 12 episodes may leave you wanting more, but when shows run 20+ episodes in a season they usually have a few filler episodes. Quality does tend to go down after a certain amount.

 

[lupi]

Seasons used to be 24-25 at ~46-48 minutes. Now it's 20-22 at ~42-44.

 

[Xonim]

I'm getting really frustrated with the pacing of the shows this season. There seems to be more and more breaks where there aren't any new episodes. I mean, I understand breaking for the Olympics and breaking for holidays, but can someone explain to me why Castle is on haitus from 3/24 to 4/21? What's the point?

It seems to be so hit/miss with lots of different shows this year. Knowing what airs from week to week is anybody's guess, I don't like it.

 

[bearxor]

I'd really rather have 12-15 tightly written, overarching episodes than an additional 5-8 episodes of filler. ESPECIALLY for dramas.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'd really rather have 12-15 tightly written, overarching episodes than an additional 5-8 episodes of filler. ESPECIALLY for dramas.

It really matters on the show. A lot of the sitcoms and dramas that reset to base at the end of every episode could run a new show every week year round no problem. Because they are formulaic and episodes don't affect each other. A show with a running story line, like The Walking Dead, needs to have the right number of episodes to tell this season's story, and no more or less. Some other shows, like the BBC's Sherlock, is probably so time consuming to write and produce that they require fewer episodes to maintain quality.

 

[phreaqe]

It really matters on the show. A lot of the sitcoms and dramas that reset to base at the end of every episode could run a new show every week year round no problem. Because they are formulaic and episodes don't affect each other. A show with a running story line, like The Walking Dead, needs to have the right number of episodes to tell this season's story, and no more or less. Some other shows, like the BBC's Sherlock, is probably so time consuming to write and produce that they require fewer episodes to maintain quality.

Yup, you cant really set a formula that works for everything. I generally like to have a lot of episodes for 30 minute sitcoms but less for the 1 hr drama shows. Even then, i can handle it being different for each show. Sherlock is a great example. Each series is basically 3 movies, so i can see that they take a long time to create. If they were to try and create more, then i feel that the excellent writing and acting may suffer. I would rather have 3 episodes with the current awesomeness then 10 crappy ones.
Edit: and speaking of Sherlock when is series 3 streaming coming to netflix? My wife and I just started watching it recently and after the cliffhanger of series 2 I want to know how he pulled it off!

 

[SMOGZINN]

Edit: and speaking of Sherlock when is series 3 streaming coming to netflix? My wife and I just started watching it recently and after the cliffhanger of series 2 I want to know how he pulled it off!

It is already on Amazon Streaming service, so who knows when or if Netflix will get it. The good news is that it already aired on PBS in the US, so if you have a DVR you might be able to catch a re-airing of it.

 

[lupi]

Those who kill will be burned off on the Lifetime Movie Network.