2015 Chrysler 200

nerp

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Ok, yes, I'm a Mopar guy, but that aside, I think the specs look quite good. $25K for a 295 horsepower 4-door with AWD and 9-speed? And I think the car is damn sexy, if you ask me. Comments that endlessly compare "this looks like this, the front looks like that car, the side looks like that car" are worthless. You can do this for virtually any car. The fact that the Land Rover Sport looks a lot like a Ford Explorer doesn't take away from either.

Anyway, this could be a huge hit and the options are very competitive for the class. Chrysler desperately needs product, so this is a good start. Looking forward to actual test drive reviews.

Autoblog has a writeup.

 

_Rick_

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It's a car.
That's what it looks like.
If you need $26k of car, sure why not.
I prefer cars with character, and this one has just as much as anything coming out Korea, ten years ago.
I also don't like the front.
And with that rear shot, it really is hard to tell apart from an Audi....
 

foghorn67

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I'm just realizing pedantic ATG is. I think we get so full of ourselves, there is no way to satiate any appetite.

Stepping back, this is a good looking car. If you're in the market for a mid-sized cars, you picked the right era.
 

NutBucket

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I have to say it certainly looks nice. Still not sure if I would buy a Chrysler though.
 

Kaido

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I saw the blue one in some article the other day and was actually pretty impressed; it's like a nicer-looking Corolla with better specs. Especially if you're looking at something like a 200 HP BRZ, this gives you nearly 300 HP with a smooth transmission & AWD. That's like the perfect commuter - lots of power, smooth driving, and can handle snow well. Nice!
 

GTaudiophile

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A huge improvement. Nice interior too.

I like that the press shots were taken in various "ruins" of Detroit.
 

NutBucket

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Especially if you're looking at something like a 200 HP BRZ, this gives you nearly 300 HP with a smooth transmission & AWD. That's like the perfect commuter - lots of power, smooth driving, and can handle snow well. Nice!
How on earth can you make this comparison?
 

ElFenix

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i like it. it's pretty. price seems reasonable too. welcome back to the midsize market, chrysler.

Looks nice.

The current 200 is fit for rental car fleets and not much else.

with the V6 it was the cheapest speed you could buy. 283 horsepower and 6 gears in a 3400 lb sled.
 

NutBucket

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I agree it's pointless to have a large/prominent shifter these days. I've met plenty of folks who don't know why they should use low gears.
 

sandorski

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Sexy. How reliable is it though?

I also would be concerned about the Tranny, it's still only a few years since they came on the market. AFAIK anyway.
 

PricklyPete

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Sexy. How reliable is it though?

I also would be concerned about the Tranny, it's still only a few years since they came on the market. AFAIK anyway.


Actually less than 1 year with the introduction of the new Jeep Cherokee.

This does seem like a compelling package for the money, but I would be hesitant on reliability.
 

NutBucket

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Tranny isn't made by Chrysler (ZF IIRC) so I'd be slightly less worried about it's reliability.
 

Knavish

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Ok, yes, I'm a Mopar guy, but that aside, I think the specs look quite good. $25K for a 295 horsepower 4-door with AWD and 9-speed?

Looks like a pretty nice car. It's nice that some companies are preserving V6 options in their sedans.

I think the 295hp V6 + AWD are an option on the models that start at $24,500 or $25,995. After you add the V6 and AWD, I suspect the car will be around $28k. Add leather and navigation and you'll be up around $32-33k.
 

CraigRT

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It looks great.
Chrysler does need product..
If they released something "Neon" like again that was simple and fun, it would be something that would interest me... The Dart needs an SRT version or something not slow. For now my Civic SI will do on the simple and fun thing.
 

Dr. Detroit

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Looks like a pretty nice car. It's nice that some companies are preserving V6 options in their sedans.

I think the 295hp V6 + AWD are an option on the models that start at $24,500 or $25,995. After you add the V6 and AWD, I suspect the car will be around $28k. Add leather and navigation and you'll be up around $32-33k.

V6 is standard with AWD - not an option!

A Loaded 200S will most definitely be $32K, no different than Ford, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, or Chevy!

Quite a lot of information was posted at Autoblog - http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/13/2015-chrysler-200-revealed-deep-dive/
 

theeedude

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Interior is another disappointment, like the Dodge Dart I had as a rental.
When is Chrysler going to realize that using "leather" texture on hard shiny rubbermaid plastic just makes the interior look like cheap junk? You have to at least stay true to the properties of the material you are trying to imitate. If it's leather, it should be soft to touch.
 
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I think its interesting and I understand why they went the direction they did, I still think the 200 concept car from several years back is a lot more stylish. This kinda makes me think of Lincoln. Its not a bad car, and I can see why they did what they did (and to be fair, Chrysler really doesn't even have the luxury cachet that Lincoln did so its not as bad), but I won't be too surprised if this doesn't win people over like they apparently think it will. This is basically just getting to the status quo car and I expect Chrysler will have to push incentives and things to get people to choose it over quite a few other vehicles.

But maybe the next 300 will be an upsized version of that since its more of the style car for Chrysler.

Interior is another disappointment, like the Dodge Dart I had as a rental.
When is Chrysler going to realize that using "leather" texture on hard shiny rubbermaid plastic just makes the interior look like cheap junk? You have to at least stay true to the properties of the material you are trying to imitate. If it's leather, it should be soft to touch.

While I haven't been in a Dart, but the plastics I've felt that were similar were "soft touch" to me. Its a far cry from the late 90s plastics that GM and Chrysler were obsessed with. Hmm, actually I have a friend that has a pretty recent Ram and I think the interior materials feel like crap. They have a rubberized or maybe leather like textured finish to them but feel cheap. I was under the impression that the newer Chrysler vehicles improved on that though.

But then, I feel like we need a revolutionary change to car interiors so it'd take a lot to really get me to get excited about. Although likewise, as long as its not hideous, is functional, it doesn't take much for me to be ok with it.
 
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It still blows me away that Chrysler doesn't have a modern turbo 4 as they have a history of making pretty decent ones and also have a good pairing with Fiat (Multi-Air and combine it with direct injection) to make it great. I think it would fit their lineup a lot better and they'd be getting all the raves that Ford is from their Ecoboost line. A 2.xliter turbo 4. Something they could fit in the Dart to help it (rumor is they're trying to fit the Pentastar in it as it just doesn't have the get up and go that it needs), that they could also uprate enough to be used like they do the Pentastar V6.

They could even set it for different trims in this car and make it the sole engine choice. Say 200hp/240ft-lbs base, with a 260hp/300ft-lbs with AWD. Much better than the weak base 4 they have now, and it'd simplify the design without trying to fit a normal 4 and a V6 (kinda like how Hyundai bet big on 4 cylinders in the Sonata). I think the premium cost of that engine would have been offset by the savings designing for a single smaller engine, and the widespread use would have upped economies of scale.

More or less it looks like a missed opportunity. If they'd done that instead of the Pentastar, I think they'd be in a better position. As it is now, it feels like they're a little behind the times compared to Ford (speaking of which, this 200 makes me think new Fusion from basically the A pillar back, with maybe a Hyundai esque nose and taillights).

But then I supposed that's kinda the problem of going through a bankruptcy/cash crunch.

It looks great.
Chrysler does need product..
If they released something "Neon" like again that was simple and fun, it would be something that would interest me... The Dart needs an SRT version or something not slow. For now my Civic SI will do on the simple and fun thing.

I think therein lies the problem with Chrysler. A lot of Chrysler's stuff has been mostly crap, but it had character. The Dart is a much better car, but I feel like the Neon had more character (don't get me wrong, I can understand people not liking that character). Now Chrysler seems to be in a flux. They've got character cars like the Challenger or Viper, that frankly just aren't up to the level of the competition, and now they've got status quo cars (like this, the new Cherokee although that has some of the Chrysler "character" so it might not be the best example). I think they need to meld the two, more Grand Cherokee and newest Ram, where they keep the character but make a good solid car otherwise.

Maybe this car will prove to have more character than I give it credit for. I like it, but I still just think "why couldn't they make a production version of the 200 concept?" and so am left disappointed. Its definitely a big step up over the previous 200/Sebring atrocity, and it will be interesting to see how the AWD setup works out (60% to the rear could help a lot to give it a sporty feel).

I think Chrysler would do well to stagger their lineup with Dodge. The Dart is the mass compact, the 200 slots above it, then take the Charger a bit downsize but keep it RWD with the V8 and aggressiveness (basically make it the larger Avenger replacement rumored RWD platform that the Cuda supposedly got turned into) and slot it just above the 200 or maybe overlap them (where if you value luxury more you go 200, if you want performance more you go Charger), and then have the 300 maintain the big luxury cruiser.

Wow, I'm just babbling on at this point...
 

phucheneh

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I agree it's pointless to have a large/prominent shifter these days. I've met plenty of folks who don't know why they should use low gears.

It's not 'pointless' to have a shifter that operates mechanically. That's how most cars still work, because it...works.

In before coincidental mass failure of a random cheap part causes Chrysler 200's to have to be dragged onto flatbeds, then drug off and fixed in the dealer's parking lot.

It's almost as dumb as putting the battery in the trunk and then providing no mechanical means of opening said trunk. LOL, that would be insane, no one would ev-

...oh yeah, Chrysler did that.

Car looks decent, though. Better than anything else in their product line.
 
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