2020-2021 Coup Watch Thread

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Lifer
May 30, 2008
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I don’t get it... At this point why doesn’t Donald Trump just simply say what he has wanted to say all along, that he is now our dictator? Donald Trump has exhausted all the legitimate options with all of those having failed, so why doesn’t Donald just pull the string? Just tell America that he isn’t going anywhere and he is now dictator of the United States? That’s what he wants and that is what his base wants and that is what most republicans in congress are waiting for. Donald already has a shit load of republicans on his side, little Lindsey, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, and hundreds more. Surely they would celebrate Donald Trump as dictator. Donald has already replaced people in the pentagon for preparation, already fired anyone he dislikes, and a majority of republican governors would no doubt go along, so why doesn’t Trump just do it? He could promise that everyone will get the vaccine, promise everyone that the economy will rebound better than ever, Trump could promise that government as we know it would no longer be needed. We wouldn’t need Democrats or republicans or a house or senate, all issues would be resolved by loyalists that Donald Trump appoints with Donald Trump having the final say. Donald could do away with most courts including the US Supreme Court. Donald could promise no more Nancy Pelosi’s, no more Chuck Schumer’s, no more black lives matters, no more women’s rights and no more abortions. No more gay marriage and no more CNN or MSNBC. OR, could this in fact be the final plan already? Were the court challenges and the resulting losses just a way to stir up his base for supporting his inevitable, his declaring his dictatorship? I do believe this is the plan, the final act in this insane Donald Trump play. He could get Trump friendly governors to enact martial law, get military leaders to stand by, get his personal military militia like the ALT Right and The Proud Boys to patrol the streets of America. He could probably pull it off, but time is running out because once Joe Biden is sworn in a coup will be much harder for Donald Trump to pull off. So Donald, what are you and your republicans waiting for? Pull the string, just do what you’ve wanted to do all along. You’re already done the hard part, taken over the entire Republican Party and minimized all of our great institutions, the rest should be easy.


Perhaps if he becomes dictator maybe he'll employ you to protect the southern border? Not even the most determined undocumented migrant could climb over your wall of text.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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I don’t get it... At this point why doesn’t Donald Trump just simply say what he has wanted to say all along, that he is now our dictator? Donald Trump has exhausted all the legitimate options with all of those having failed, so why doesn’t Donald just pull the string? Just tell America that he isn’t going anywhere and he is now dictator of the United States? That’s what he wants and that is what his base wants and that is what most republicans in congress are waiting for. Donald already has a shit load of republicans on his side, little Lindsey, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, and hundreds more. Surely they would celebrate Donald Trump as dictator. Donald has already replaced people in the pentagon for preparation, already fired anyone he dislikes, and a majority of republican governors would no doubt go along, so why doesn’t Trump just do it? He could promise that everyone will get the vaccine, promise everyone that the economy will rebound better than ever, Trump could promise that government as we know it would no longer be needed. We wouldn’t need Democrats or republicans or a house or senate, all issues would be resolved by loyalists that Donald Trump appoints with Donald Trump having the final say. Donald could do away with most courts including the US Supreme Court. Donald could promise no more Nancy Pelosi’s, no more Chuck Schumer’s, no more black lives matters, no more women’s rights and no more abortions. No more gay marriage and no more CNN or MSNBC. OR, could this in fact be the final plan already? Were the court challenges and the resulting losses just a way to stir up his base for supporting his inevitable, his declaring his dictatorship? I do believe this is the plan, the final act in this insane Donald Trump play. He could get Trump friendly governors to enact martial law, get military leaders to stand by, get his personal military militia like the ALT Right and The Proud Boys to patrol the streets of America. He could probably pull it off, but time is running out because once Joe Biden is sworn in a coup will be much harder for Donald Trump to pull off. So Donald, what are you and your republicans waiting for? Pull the string, just do what you’ve wanted to do all along. You’re already done the hard part, taken over the entire Republican Party and minimized all of our great institutions, the rest should be easy.


You are consistently a bit over-excitable about this, but taking the point seriously, I think not only does Trump lack the 'balls' and the political cunning to pull off such a move, the biggest single element missing, if this were going to end in dictatorship, is some sort of truly massive national crisis - one more immediate and dramatic than the slowly-unfolding pandemic (unless the virus mutates very suddenly and it gets much much worse). He'd need his Reichstag fire, basically.

Another 9/11 at a bare minimum, particularly if it took out part of the legislature. Something of that ilk would be required as an excuse, I think, if he were to have any hope of getting enough people in the state apparatus to go along with him. But, really, as far as I can see, he hasn't done the prep work, he doesn't have enough reliable allies in the security apparatus.

He's basically given a lesson, though, to anyone who might want to pull off such a thing in the future - it can probably be done, but you have to do the preparation first. You need your people in the right places. He's made a start with the Supreme Court and the judiciary (and some of the police unions seem to regard the police as Trump's private army, judging from that Bob Krull guy's speech), but he failed to get the state legislatures fully on-board, for example, which is what derailed his efforts this time, and I doubt he has the non-civilian part of the Pentagon on-side either.

Basically the time isn't quite right for the US to go full fascist. You've got the angry mass movement, the lumpenprole street-fighters of the SA, but there are still too many elements missing.
 
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Dave_5k

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And the ultra-crazy continues... welcome to the U.S., where we merrily elect and promote the insane:

Retired General and state lawmaker propose Trump declare national emergency, invoke Insurrection Act, and suspend habeas corpus to keep Trump in office.
Asked why so many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, rejected lawsuits intended to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the November election, Steinburg said, "let’s take a look at Justice John Roberts." He then suggested "somebody's got something" on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and, as evidence, said a lot of retired FBI and CIA agents live in his district and have told him so.

"I hear this all the time," Steinburg said. "All the time.”
Steinburg then offered, unprompted, to take a psychiatric evaluation. He said the CIA and FBI both know there's a coup d'etat going on in the country but won't do anything about it.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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And the ultra-crazy continues... welcome to the U.S., where we merrily elect and promote the insane:

Retired General and state lawmaker propose Trump declare national emergency, invoke Insurrection Act, and suspend habeas corpus to keep Trump in office.
Asked why so many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, rejected lawsuits intended to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the November election, Steinburg said, "let’s take a look at Justice John Roberts." He then suggested "somebody's got something" on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and, as evidence, said a lot of retired FBI and CIA agents live in his district and have told him so.

"I hear this all the time," Steinburg said. "All the time.”
Steinburg then offered, unprompted, to take a psychiatric evaluation. He said the CIA and FBI both know there's a coup d'etat going on in the country but won't do anything about it.
Somebody needs to tell him it's really the lizard people who control things.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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And the ultra-crazy continues... welcome to the U.S., where we merrily elect and promote the insane:

Retired General and state lawmaker propose Trump declare national emergency, invoke Insurrection Act, and suspend habeas corpus to keep Trump in office.
Asked why so many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, rejected lawsuits intended to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the November election, Steinburg said, "let’s take a look at Justice John Roberts." He then suggested "somebody's got something" on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and, as evidence, said a lot of retired FBI and CIA agents live in his district and have told him so.

"I hear this all the time," Steinburg said. "All the time.”
Steinburg then offered, unprompted, to take a psychiatric evaluation. He said the CIA and FBI both know there's a coup d'etat going on in the country but won't do anything about it.

Imagine actually believing that you're a Patriot defending freedom and the Constitution... by taking everyone's freedoms away, through martial law and suspension of habeas corpus and otherwise getting rid of the Constitution, so that Trump can be made king. I mean, just fucking imagine that! Because that's literally how fucked in the head these people are.
 

Motostu

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And the ultra-crazy continues... welcome to the U.S., where we merrily elect and promote the insane:

Retired General and state lawmaker propose Trump declare national emergency, invoke Insurrection Act, and suspend habeas corpus to keep Trump in office.
Asked why so many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, rejected lawsuits intended to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the November election, Steinburg said, "let’s take a look at Justice John Roberts." He then suggested "somebody's got something" on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and, as evidence, said a lot of retired FBI and CIA agents live in his district and have told him so.

"I hear this all the time," Steinburg said. "All the time.”
Steinburg then offered, unprompted, to take a psychiatric evaluation. He said the CIA and FBI both know there's a coup d'etat going on in the country but won't do anything about it.
It's really comical at this point. Steinburg voices support for the suspension of habeas corpus, then has to admit he doesn't know what that really means. Some of these people are only capable of parroting what they hear, with no understanding of the true meaning or what the consequences would be.
 
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nickqt

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It's really comical at this point. Steinburg voices support for the suspension of habeas corpus, then has to admit he doesn't know what that really means. Some of these people are only capable of parroting what they hear, with no understanding of the true meaning or what the consequences would be.
The Modern US Conservative has had Limbaugh, Gingrich, and Hannity shitting directly into their skulls for close to 25 years straight. Their brains have been rewired to believe whatever they are told to believe.

It's literal brain damage at this point.

Just read the hilariously delusional shit on these forums for a sample.
 

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Lifer
May 30, 2008
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And the ultra-crazy continues... welcome to the U.S., where we merrily elect and promote the insane:

Retired General and state lawmaker propose Trump declare national emergency, invoke Insurrection Act, and suspend habeas corpus to keep Trump in office.
Asked why so many courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, rejected lawsuits intended to overturn President-elect Joe Biden's win in the November election, Steinburg said, "let’s take a look at Justice John Roberts." He then suggested "somebody's got something" on the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and, as evidence, said a lot of retired FBI and CIA agents live in his district and have told him so.

"I hear this all the time," Steinburg said. "All the time.”
Steinburg then offered, unprompted, to take a psychiatric evaluation. He said the CIA and FBI both know there's a coup d'etat going on in the country but won't do anything about it.

This guy is part of the _real_ "deep state". It's less all-powerful and a lot more demented than the one of Trumpist imagining.
 

NTMBK

Lifer
Nov 14, 2011
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This right here is why the "split the country in half!" narrative is incredibly dumb:



There are more Trump voters in California than Texas, more Biden voters in Texas than New York, more Trump voters in New York than Ohio, more Biden voters in Ohio than Massachusetts, more Trump voters in Massachusetts than Mississippi, and more Biden voters in Mississippi than Vermont.


There's no dividing line that would neatly leave all the Blue votes on one side and Red votes on the other.
 

VRAMdemon

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Bill Stepien put out an official Trump Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20. “Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force.” By force?! ... hmmm! wonder what that means?

I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

Will I get in trouble if I start mailing diapers and binkies to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? they must be running low.



 

Roger Wilco

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Bill Stepien put out an official Trump Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20. “Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force.” By force?! ... hmmm! wonder what that means?

I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

Will I get in trouble if I start mailing diapers and binkies to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? they must be running low.



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I think this is fake. This was "released" yesterday, and nobody is covering it.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
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"does not plan on leaving at any point PRIOR TO january 20"

emphasis mine. PABOTUS will be out the minute of 12:00 and not one sooner.
 

NWRMidnight

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Bill Stepien put out an official Trump Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20. “Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force.” By force?! ... hmmm! wonder what that means?

I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

Will I get in trouble if I start mailing diapers and binkies to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? they must be running low.



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So much for just committing sedition, it has now been officially taken beyond to outright treason if true.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Bill Stepien put out an official Trump Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20. “Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force.” By force?! ... hmmm! wonder what that means?

I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

Will I get in trouble if I start mailing diapers and binkies to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? they must be running low.



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It says '...nor does he plan on leaving the White House at any point prior to January 20th' which is fully expected. He is President until that day, I expect this is just more bluster, and they plan on leaving the White House on January 20th, the day that Joe Biden takes up residence there.

But I agree it is an ominous statement that intentionally makes it sound like Trump does not intend to allow for a peaceful transition of power.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Still pretty sure it's fake guys.
I agree. It is not on Trump's Campaign website, and I can't find it in a google search. If this is real they have done a poor job of promoting it, as it seems the only people that know about it is a small group of news and politics nerds on a tech board.
 
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Lifer
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Bill Stepien put out an official Trump Campaign Team press release saying he will be holding his inauguration at Mar a Lago on January 20. “Any attempt to remove the Trump administration will require force.” By force?! ... hmmm! wonder what that means?

I notice that Trump has no VP for his second term. Or is Pence and Mother moving to Mar-A-Lago?

Will I get in trouble if I start mailing diapers and binkies to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? they must be running low.



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Since this appears to be fake, I am curious what your source was? Understanding where these hoaxes come from is really important.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Since this appears to be fake, I am curious what your source was? Understanding where these hoaxes come from is really important.
The only place I've been able to find this is in The Floridian which appears to be a Florida Man version of a Breitbart style fact free conspiracy news website for south Florida. Take this with a massive dose of skepticism.
 
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Dave_5k

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I think the Kraken should sue her for defamation, too.
Good point, given "release the kraken" is trademark used by Kraken rum, they might have a decent legal case ~ and certainly a far stronger legal basis than anything in Sidney Powell's vast steaming pile of election court spam...
 
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