2020-2021 Coup Watch Thread

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SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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no real threats, no vandalization, not even a knock on the door and absolutely no violence.

he's a lying sack of shit, too bad that's no surprise.
It is not lying, it is alternative truth. His opinion of the events is just as good as your evidence!
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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gothuevos

Diamond Member
Jul 28, 2010
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The law and order party, everyone.

Again, these days I seem to think about the David Frum quote almost hourly it seems.

You know the one.
 

Stokely

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Jun 5, 2017
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The phrase "stand up and be counted" comes to mind. As in, anyone supporting the Republican party after all this bullshit is standing up and being counted--and not in a good way. Clucking your tongue in disapproval and "being concerned" doesn't count. If you are a Republican or support Republicans after all this, you are the enemy as far as I'm concerned.
 

gothuevos

Diamond Member
Jul 28, 2010
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Is this a preview of Wednesday?

Pence just unilaterally deciding not to "count" the contested states? Of course it's not legal, but just look at today.

The law does not seem to matter to them. They are at the point where they would be willing to even ignore their own majority SCOTUS were they to get involved again.

This is really, really bad. What country are we in, again? Rapidly approaching failed state status.

This is why I don't believe the folks who say "don't worry, Biden will be President on 1/20.". You just assume the GOP will follow/honor the law when the last 4 years and especially 2 months have shown us they will not. Tomorrow will be a sad day in our history.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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The phrase "stand up and be counted" comes to mind. As in, anyone supporting the Republican party after all this bullshit is standing up and being counted--and not in a good way. Clucking your tongue in disapproval and "being concerned" doesn't count. If you are a Republican or support Republicans after all this, you are the enemy as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, they are exposing their anti-Democractic views and it is hurting them how exactly?

That's the most maddening thing about this ... there's like almost zero pushback from their voters. In fact they're lauded as heroes.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Is this a preview of Wednesday?

Pence just unilaterally deciding not to "count" the contested states? Of course it's not legal, but just look at today.

The law does not seem to matter to them. They are at the point where they would be willing to even ignore their own majority SCOTUS were they to get involved again.

This is really, really bad. What country are we in, again? Rapidly approaching failed state status.

This is why I don't believe the folks who say "don't worry, Biden will be President on 1/20.". You just assume the GOP will follow/honor the law when the last 4 years and especially 2 months have shown us they will not. Tomorrow will be a sad day in our history.
Why would it matter if Pence counts them or not? His only role is to open the envelopes. He has nothing to do with the counting. If he doesn’t open the envelopes and somehow people decide they can’t be counted without being opened, then we have president Pelosi.

Again, if your idea is that there’s going to be some military coup I guess that’s one way Biden won’t be president. There is literally no other.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Some real "Nice Republic you got there, be a big shame if something were to...happen to it" energy to this one.

If the Proud Boys and company decide to storm the Capital they should be met with the utmost lethal force.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Why would it matter if Pence counts them or not? His only role is to open the envelopes. He has nothing to do with the counting. If he doesn’t open the envelopes and somehow people decide they can’t be counted without being opened, then we have president Pelosi.

Again, if your idea is that there’s going to be some military coup I guess that’s one way Biden won’t be president. There is literally no other.
I wouldn't take an attempted use of the military, by Trump, off the table. I don't think it stands a chance but I'm certainly not counting out Trump actually trying it.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I wouldn't take an attempted use of the military, by Trump, off the table. I don't think it stands a chance but I'm certainly not counting out Trump actually trying it.
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible either but outside of that I don’t really see what he can do.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Some real "Nice Republic you got there, be a big shame if something were to...happen to it" energy to this one.

If the Proud Boys and company decide to storm the Capital they should be met with the utmost lethal force.


His tweets are as mad as ever.

For Trump, Anti-fascists are not welcome. But I must have missed the tweet where he warned-off his fascist supporters - who presumably are no longer in 'stand-by' mode.





And again, the motif of playing the victim. Disguising a desire to destroy democracy as a noble desire to 'save' it from an entirely-imaginary enemy. That seems a pretty standard fascist (and just general authoritarian) tactic.

I seriously hope this is true - that the US has had enough and won't take it any more. 'it' being The current Republican Party and all it has come to represent. A good first sign of that would be sending Trump to prison where he belongs. I've had enough of hearing about him now. I'm bored with him - lock him up and move on.

 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Is this election finally over yet? I thought today was the day when "The House" voted to accept the votes of the electors who were voted for by the actual electorate, oh, a lifetime ago? Is it done now?
 

vi edit

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 28, 1999
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January 20th can't get here fast enough. Shut the fuck up Donny.
 

linkgoron

Platinum Member
Mar 9, 2005
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Is this election finally over yet? I thought today was the day when "The House" voted to accept the votes of the electors who were voted for by the actual electorate, oh, a lifetime ago? Is it done now?
Tomorrow. Today is the Georgia Senate runoff.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Tomorrow. Today is the Georgia Senate runoff.

Ha! Got confused because it's already tomorrow over here! Greetings from the future! Unfortunately that doesn't mean I know the results of the Senate elections - it turns out that time-zone-differences don't work that way.

Why are all the Trumpists rallyling now, though? Are they planning to stay on the streets all night? Or is the idea to go home for a nap before resuming rioting or whatever they plan to do while the votes are actually counted?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
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Is this a preview of Wednesday?

Pence just unilaterally deciding not to "count" the contested states? Of course it's not legal, but just look at today.

The law does not seem to matter to them. They are at the point where they would be willing to even ignore their own majority SCOTUS were they to get involved again.

This is really, really bad. What country are we in, again? Rapidly approaching failed state status.

This is why I don't believe the folks who say "don't worry, Biden will be President on 1/20.". You just assume the GOP will follow/honor the law when the last 4 years and especially 2 months have shown us they will not. Tomorrow will be a sad day in our history.

You'll be spreading the FUD right to the end, huh? Both houses of Congress would have to vote not to accept state certified electors & neither will. Trump might even incite a riot but that won't change anything, either.
 
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linkgoron

Platinum Member
Mar 9, 2005
2,580
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Is this a preview of Wednesday?

Pence just unilaterally deciding not to "count" the contested states? Of course it's not legal, but just look at today.

The law does not seem to matter to them. They are at the point where they would be willing to even ignore their own majority SCOTUS were they to get involved again.

This is really, really bad. What country are we in, again? Rapidly approaching failed state status.

This is why I don't believe the folks who say "don't worry, Biden will be President on 1/20.". You just assume the GOP will follow/honor the law when the last 4 years and especially 2 months have shown us they will not. Tomorrow will be a sad day in our history.

Trump has no path to victory. Even if he does have 12 or so Senate members, and a staggering 140 members of the House, that's not nearly enough. They could make it longer, so it'll take a few hours more, but that's about it.

The only act of defiance that Pence can do is not show up. He would say that he still supports Trump, he didn't betray him, and that he didn't show up because he just can't accept the "fake" results or whatever. Charles E. Grassley would run the meeting, and that's it.
 
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snoopy7548

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Jan 1, 2005
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No, I will be on the streets resisting any such attempt, because I gave an oath to the Constitution. I won’t blame liberals, just you. You can make up for it by running chicken sandwiches to the front lines.

Where were you yesterday afternoon?
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Where were you yesterday afternoon?
Watching the situation unfold like everyone else and ready and willing to step in and stop the insurrection from spreading should the local authorities fail in their duties. Fortunately, the insurrectionist mob was put down by the appropriate authorities with minimal violence, and Congress performed its duties in certifying the electoral vote. Congress should be aggressively moving forward to impeach the President or Pence should invoke the 25th. Those who stormed Congress should face federal charges. The police who allowed it to happen should face charges and reprimand. I condemn what Trump and his supporters did yesterday in no uncertain terms. I applaud those law enforcement officers who acted quickly to prevent this from turning into something far worst.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Some real "Nice Republic you got there, be a big shame if something were to...happen to it" energy to this one.

If the Proud Boys and company decide to storm the Capital they should be met with the utmost lethal force.
Well with one glaring exception they were mostly greeted with selfies with the police.
 
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