2020 Formula Boinc Sprints

[Fardringle]

I think I'm going to pass on this sprint. My GPU resources are rather limited and didn't do well the last time I tried to run Einstein on it.

 

[lane42]

Did we start ?
I see we did

 

[Assimilator1]

I keep getting errors on Gravitational Wave search WUs.

Funny you mention that, my 2nd rig seems to have done only 1 WU and that errored out, (the task details shows it errored with someone elses machine to) but my main rig is doing just fine (although they are gamma pulse search WUs), it's currently doing a grav wave search one, will be interesting to see how that goes.....

Anyone else having problems?

 

[Ken g6]

Funny you mention that, my 2nd rig seems to have done only 1 WU and that errored out, (the task details shows it errored with someone elses machine to) but my main rig is doing just fine (although they are gamma pulse search WUs), it's currently doing a grav wave search one, will be interesting to see how that goes.....

Anyone else having problems?

It seemed to me that:

1. Doing two grav WUs at a time doesn't work well on a 3GB card. Apparently it needs more than 2GB per WU.
2. Running some gravs, then some pulses (2 at a time), then some more gravs is what seemed to cause the problem for me in the first place. Edit: A reboot appeared to fix whatever went wrong. Maybe it's my old pre-400 drivers?
3. I took a look at points from each task type. Pulses produce 3,465 points each. Gravs produce only 2,000. Since it takes me longer to run two gravs than two pulses, I'm sticking with pulses now.

 

[Assimilator1]

I only run 1WU at a time, so far on my 2nd rig all WUs (only 3) have errored out, and to add insult to injury each grav WU on that rig is taking 21,168s!! Bearing in mind the HD 7870XT has much more DP power than the RX 580, 710 GFLOPs vs 386.
I'm going to check the Einstein forums and see if I can update the drivers.
Drivers were 19.9.1 (from last year), trying 20.4.2

It had done about 1/2 of the 1st WU with the new drivers in about 10 mins, so it looks like it's on track now , although after a reboot all that progress was lost!

 

[Assimilator1]

Nope, I spoke too soon, and I realised that the progress hadn't been lost, but that the ETA had shot up & the progress bar had been revised.
Remaining time is 19hrs 40mins and climbing fast! So it's going to hit the time limit again.


Outcome: Computation error

Client state: Compute error

Exit status: 197 (0x000000C5) EXIT_TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

So until/if I can fix this, I'm going to shut that rig down as it's a total waste of time & power .

Any ideas anyone? (I've asked in the Einstein forum too JFYI).

 

[StefanR5R]

@Assimilator1, disable the bad application in your project preferences. You should still get good work from at least one other of the remaining applications.

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Compared to yesteryear's sprint at Einstein@home, this year the output of teams who are not actively taking part in Formula BOINC should be considerably higher. As far as I have seen, many former SETI@home contributors moved on to Einstein@home.

 

[Endgame124]

My RX250 is chewing through WUs around every 90 minutes, so far with minimal problems. You guys just need older hardware!

 

[TennesseeTony]

If you want POINTS, say for a Sprint, one should only be running the Gamma-ray pulsar binary search #1 (GPU) . Gravitational wave points are horrific in comparison.

 

[Assimilator1]

My RX250 is chewing through WUs around every 90 minutes, so far with minimal problems. You guys just need older hardware!

My HD 7870 XT is older!

Stefan, I'll try that later, thanks

 

[Orange Kid]

Einstein@home day one-ish

1	XtremeSystems	25	60,031,121
2	The Scottish Boinc Team	18	23,081,357
3	Gridcoin	15	19,580,679
4	BOINC@AUSTRALIA	12	16,503,436
5	Team China	10	14,277,402
6	UK BOINC Team	8	14,178,933
7	Russia Team	6	13,867,617
8	SETI.Germany	4	9,882,747
9	Rechenkraft.net	2	9,261,376
10	TeAm AnandTech	1	8,872,445

From FreeDC

biodoc	1,732,500
Lane42	852,390
crashtech	691,635
10esseeTony	620,235
Icecold-Team Anandtech	544,205
Orange Kid	388,650
elawyn	187,530
Ken_g6 - TeAm Anandtech	159,731
Howdy	76,230
Ingleside	62,370
phoenicis	58,905
Alan J. Simpson	31,878
[TA]Assimilator1	28,930
Jesper S. Rytke	24,000
Endgame124	313

 

[Endgame124]

Einstein@home day one-ish

1	XtremeSystems	25	60,031,121
2	The Scottish Boinc Team	18	23,081,357
3	Gridcoin	15	19,580,679
4	BOINC@AUSTRALIA	12	16,503,436
5	Team China	10	14,277,402
6	UK BOINC Team	8	14,178,933
7	Russia Team	6	13,867,617
8	SETI.Germany	4	9,882,747
9	Rechenkraft.net	2	9,261,376
10	TeAm AnandTech	1	8,872,445

From FreeDC

biodoc	1,732,500
Lane42	852,390
crashtech	691,635
10esseeTony	620,235
Icecold-Team Anandtech	544,205
Orange Kid	388,650
elawyn	187,530
Ken_g6 - TeAm Anandtech	159,731
Howdy	76,230
Ingleside	62,370
phoenicis	58,905
Alan J. Simpson	31,878
[TA]Assimilator1	28,930
Jesper S. Rytke	24,000
Endgame124	313

Look at me rocking it with (checks score) 313 points! Something seems not right

 

[Ken g6]

Look at me rocking it with (checks score) 313 points! Something seems not right

Looks like you loaded up on Gravity Wave WUs. They're all pending a wingman except for the two that took an extra-long time and failed.

If you want POINTS, say for a Sprint, one should only be running the Gamma-ray pulsar binary search #1 (GPU) . Gravitational wave points are horrific in comparison.

Your only current results with points are from your ARMs. 💪💪💪

 

[Assimilator1]

Looks like with some of them at least you having the same problems as my 2nd rig was .

I had to disable that app to get around it for now, I've posted in the Einstein forums about it here.

 

[Kiska]

Seems like I need to help with my Radeon VII when I am not gaming or using my machine too heavily

 

[Assimilator1]

That would be awesome

Btw those with grx cards with 3GB of vRAM of less, you will have problems with some of the grav wave WUs, specifically those with a frequency range(gap) of 0.7Hz or more (shown in the Task ID). Previously it errored out stating MEM_OBJECT_ALLOCATION_FAILURE
But it seems now to give an error referring to '... caused breakpoint at location....', other than disabling that specific app or manually (!) filtering out those WUs, I don't yet know if theirs a fix for it.

@Endgame124
Your GPU is also having some errors with the above type WUs, but I don't see why as it states your grx card has 7GB of vRAM, what grx card have you got? [edit] Ah, am I right in thinking that seeing as it's an APU it has an embedded GPU and uses system RAM? Or, at least the vRAM it has is 3GB or less? [edit2] No, it seems you do have a seperate grx card too, I don't get it! lol

 

[Endgame124]

Endgame
Your GPU is also having some errors with the above type WUs, but I don't see why as it states your grx card has 7GB of vRAM, what grx card have you got?

I have 2 graphics cards in this box.

1) generic Asus R7 250X 1GB model.

2) A10-7870K Integrated (Kaveri) R250 with maximum integrated memory split enabled (should be 8GB). I also used my spare watercooling parts on this host, so the integrated graphcis card is overclocked like 40% - the CPU is overclocked pretty heavily as well, but it is hard capped to 3Ghz when the integrated video is running. The watercooling on this host is total overkill - it hangs out at 28.6c under load when using the integrated GPU.

 

[Assimilator1]

Cool! Literally
Is their a way to tell which GPU the 0.7Hz+ WUs are failing on? I'm guessing it's the 250X, but can we see....... I guess the 'GPU type 2' in the task details says it, is that your R7 250X?

 

[Endgame124]

Cool! Literally
Is their a way to tell which GPU the 0.7Hz+ WUs are failing on? I'm guessing it's the 250X, but can we see....... I guess the 'GPU type 2' in the task details says it, is that your R7 250X?

I have no idea how to tell or how to control the second GPU in boinc. F@H lists the integrated video as GPU0, and the 250X as GPU1, so I would Maybe guess type 2 is the 250X?

My pc patched and started up F@H on the 250X, so maybe I just leave that alone for a while. The Einstein task assigned to that gpu now has an eta 3 days from now.

 

[Assimilator1]

Yea looks like the 570 is the No2 GPU then. You could keep E@H going on that one, you would just have to disable the grav wave app, as Stefan mentioned.

 

[Ken g6]

I have no idea how to tell or how to control the second GPU in boinc. F@H lists the integrated video as GPU0, and the 250X as GPU1, so I would Maybe guess type 2 is the 250X?

My pc patched and started up F@H on the 250X, so maybe I just leave that alone for a while. The Einstein task assigned to that gpu now has an eta 3 days from now.

To disable the internal graphics, you should be able to edit your cc_config.xml file in your BOINC directory, and change the <use_all_gpus> setting to 0.

 

[Endgame124]

To disable the internal graphics, you should be able to edit your cc_config.xml file in your BOINC directory, and change the <use_all_gpus> setting to 0.

The internal graphics are working fine. How do I disable the external 250X?

 

[biodoc]

The internal graphics are working fine. How do I disable the external 250X?

From this site here, there are a couple of options you can include in "options" section in your cc_config.xml file

<ignore_ati_dev>N</ignore_ati_dev> <----replace "N" with the appropriate device #. In your case "1" is correct I think.

Another possibility is to use <exclude_gpu> which is much more selective. You can restrict it to a specific project and application.

<exclude_gpu>
<url>project_URL</url>
[<device_num>N</device_num>]
[<type>NVIDIA|ATI|intel_gpu</type>]
[<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>

Here is one of my cc_config.xml files where I included the <ignore_ati_dev>1</ignore_ati_dev> option:

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<task>1</task>
<file_xfer>1</file_xfer>
<sched_ops>1</sched_ops>
</log_flags>
<options>
<allow_multiple_clients>1</allow_multiple_clients>
<allow_remote_gui_rpc>1</allow_remote_gui_rpc>
<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>
<no_alt_platform>1</no_alt_platform>
<ignore_ati_dev>1</ignore_ati_dev>
</options>
</cc_config>

 

[Orange Kid]

Einstein@home day two
I think the real fireworks will be tomorrow
Happy 4th to those who celebrate.
Stay safe and try to keep all your fingers and other body parts intact.

1	XtremeSystems	25	101,635,248
2	The Scottish Boinc Team	18	44,213,876
3	Gridcoin	15	36,726,232
4	UK BOINC Team	12	35,121,544
5	BOINC@AUSTRALIA	10	27,989,039
6	Team China	8	26,472,040
7	Russia Team	6	25,713,458
8	TeAm AnandTech	4	21,356,032
9	Rechenkraft.net	2	18,542,159
10	SETI.Germany	1	17,481,218

From FreeDC

biodoc	4,819,815	1,732,500		6,552,315​
crashtech	2,783,890	691,635		3,475,525​
Lane42	1,233,540	852,390		2,085,930​
10esseeTony	859,320	620,235		1,479,555​
Icecold-Team Anandtech	689,315	544,205		1,233,520​
Orange Kid	557,620	388,650		946,270​
Ken_g6 - TeAm Anandtech	231,462	159,731		391,193​
elawyn	144,930	187,530		332,460​
phoenicis	259,875	58,905		318,780​
Howdy	218,295	76,230		294,525​
[TA]Assimilator1	177,476	28,930		206,406​
Ingleside	48,510	62,370		110,880​
Jesper S. Rytke	34,000	24,000		58,000​
Alan J. Simpson	16,757	31,878		48,635​
zzuupp	42,000	0		42,000​
Kiska	22,000	0		22,000​
Endgame124	125	313		438​

 

[lane42]

Thanks for the stats OK