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Kaido

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Incredible 15-minute look inside the Hyundai EV factory:

 

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Counterpoint: in-home or in-complex L2 chargers are like having a gas station at home, since you can charge overnight.

EV charging stations do need to be ubiquitous, but maybe not to the same degree as gas stations because of the advantage of at-home "refueling"
 
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Counterpoint: in-home or in-complex L2 chargers are like having a gas station at home, since you can charge overnight.

EV charging stations do need to be ubiquitous, but maybe not to the same degree as gas stations because of the advantage of at-home "refueling"

I still like Tesla's old battery-swap idea, i.e. rent it as a service. In China, NIO has it down pat:

1. Has completed 60 million battery swaps
2. Process takes under 5 minutes (car self-drives into station!)
3. The update process is as fast as 144 seconds (less than half the time)

Make an American version & throw in a free car wash lol


 
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I still like Tesla's old battery-swap idea, i.e. rent it as a service. In China, NIO has it down pat:

1. Has completed 60 million battery swaps
2. Process takes under 5 minutes (car self-drives into station!)
3. The update process is as fast as 144 seconds (less than half the time)

Make an American version & throw in a free car wash lol


A common battery form factor would do wonders for that possibility!
 

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A common battery form factor would do wonders for that possibility!

BYD's 5-minute charger OR a 5-minute battery swap would sell me on a >500-mile battery. But that infrastructure would take years to implement in America...
 
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I can't see battery swapping ever becoming mainstream. Maybe in fleets like taxis where you have all the same or similar vehicle. Even then it'll probably cheaper to just have charging stations.
 

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I can't see battery swapping ever becoming mainstream. Maybe in fleets like taxis where you have all the same or similar vehicle. Even then it'll probably cheaper to just have charging stations.
Battery swapping is a rubbish idea for consumers.

5-minute charging is impressive as hell but honestly 10 minutes would be great too. A lot of Americans already spend more than 10 minutes per gas refueling, because the queues at Costco Gas are so long.


 
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Battery swapping is a rubbish idea for consumers.

15 minutes is garbage. Some of my contractors have EV's & we've done 15-minute quick-charges. Historically, 15 minutes is a miracle. In practice...it's not for me. Feels aggravating lol.

I would definitely subscribe to a battery swap service if it were available nationwide because it would eliminate the range anxiety issue for me. Between the government's EV reduction, open-sourcing NACS, and import tariffs...ain't no way that will ever happen lol.
 

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Kia is pitching Americans an affordable EV sedan with EV4 debut:
Tom Kearns, Kia’s chief designer, said Wednesday that what “many EVs have in common is the pricing that leans more towards the higher end. But our ultimate goal is to make electrified attainable driving for everyone.”

235 to 330 miles. 2026 debut. Supposedly $35k base price:




 

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Battery swap seems like a great idea until you get an 8 year old battery put into your 1 year old car. No thanks.

Might work well for fleets where the company owns everything.
 

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Xiaomi SU7 Ultra unlocks all 1,548 HP:


It was software-limited before:

It’s hardly any wonder, then, that the customers who signed up – in droves, too – were disappointed to learn that the SU7 they were allowed to buy had been neutered by the safety nannies to the tune of nearly 650 hp. (!)

The outrage from SU7 Ultra owners was immediate. And, facing mounting pressure online and on social media, Xiaomi ultimately decided to withdraw the performance-limiting features while acknowledging the need for more transparent communication about future software updates they messed up, saying in a statement, “we appreciate the passionate feedback from our community and will ensure better transparency moving forward.”

So, rich people can rocket themselves down the road in 9 second hypercars again and all is right with the world. A happy ending – but one that sort of illuminates a fresh set challenges for automakers peddling “software-defined vehicles” to a market that still thinks of their cars as very much hardware defined products.

 

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Lectron unveils Vortex NACS to CCS adapter to access Tesla’s Supercharger:


Lectron is a charging technology specialist that provides Level 1 and Level 2 EV chargers and a slew of adapters for Tesla to CCS, and vice versa

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This adapter, designed for CCS BEVs, is compatible with all Tesla DC Superchargers (V3 and V4). It is rated for up to 500 amps and 1,000 volts, so if you find a super fast Tesla plug and your EV can support 350 kW fast charging, you can take full advantage of super quick charge rates.

This is pretty cool:

1. You can retrofit any supported CCS BEV for NACS v3 & v4 Supercharger usage ($250 MSRP, on ale for $185 & 5% off via email sign-up). They have a separate "Tesla to J1772" adapter for older Tesla Level 2 chargers, if needed.

2. Only Mistubishi & Stellantis are NACS-free. Currently, the adapter is BEV-only; "it is incompatible with Mazda, MINI, Stellantis, or Chrysler models."


Currently compatible: Ford, Rivian, GM (Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac), Polestar & Volvo

ACCESS COMING SOON: AUDI, BMW, HONDA, JLR, KIA, PORSCHE, SUBARU, TOYOTA, VOLKSWAGEN

CURRENTLY NOT COMPATIBLE: MAZDA, MINI, STELLANTIS, CHRYSLER-STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES


Great news after the Federal government paused NEVI:


President Donald Trump on Jan. 20 mandated that federal agencies pause disbursement of all funds appropriated under the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and the Inflation Reduction Act, including NEVI [National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure] program funding.

Given this reality, this adapter is a smart move. Otherwise, you'd have to find public or private CCS charging, or find a more rare Tesla "Magic Dock" Supercharger that has CCS support. Downside is that America is essentially entirely reliant on Tesla going forward, a private company with a divisive CEO.


 
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Lucid Gravity electric SUV offers 450 miles of range:


Price is yikes tho lol:

According to Lucid’s payment calculator, the 2026 Lucid Gravity Grand Touring can be leased for $1,102 a month. That’s based on an MSRP of $94,900 with a down payment of $8,030. The deal is a 36-month lease with 10,000 miles a month.

Note that the 512-mile Lucid Grand Air Touring sedan goes for $112k, so the 500-mile range HAS been broken!

 

Kaido

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Tesla offers a $45k redesigned Model Y:


357-mile RWD. $45k or $37.5k after $7.5k tax incentive. Note that the nationwide average new car price is $50k:


There are some interesting lease & loan deals going on as well:





Juniper refresh adds better cooling, wrap-around lights, better sound-dampening, etc.

 

WelshBloke

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Battery swap seems like a great idea until you get an 8 year old battery put into your 1 year old car. No thanks.
You'd only have it in there until the next charge though, its not a permanent fixture.
 
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