2nd Stimulus Bipartisan Bill Introduced

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Democrats of various levels - senators from sanders, who basically caucuses with Dems, to our current vp, house members, progressives - have been proposing higher direct stimulus to individuals and to small business like restaurants since the spring and only been ignored or rejected by the Trump party and now you want to give Trump all the credit?

This is why this country is so fucking dumb and gone. Because of morons that carry this water.
So why didn't Pelosi take him up on his $1200 standalone stimulus?
 
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You're one of the dumbest mother fuckers who posts here, so throwing around that broceritops quip is hilarious in the sense that you're yet again screaming hysterically at a mirror in public for everyone to watch.

Shorter rant, you're a dumb mother fucker, and a joke of a human being.
What kind of dip shit response is this? You marxists are some vile creatures.
 
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I have deeply mixed feelings about the stimulus.

The "$325 billion small business boost" is nothing more then a slush fund for Trump to give to his enablers.

Not a fan of the tax breaks for processing PPP loans, as only Trump sycophants received them.

Not a fan of the 1.4 billion to build Trumps wall.

Not a fan of the $44 billion in transportation aid. Let capitalism eliminate the weaker players. Airliners are horrible awful things for the environment, why are we subsidizing this?

Not a fan of $13 billion round of direct payments to farmers. We already subsidize farmers into a welfare industry, and they repaid us by doing everything possible to destroy this country. Let capitalism take its course and wipe out the small farmer.

Not a fan of Federal contractor relief. More welfare crony capitalism.

Not a fan of $7 billion to increase expand broadband access, we have repeatedly seen broadband companies take the money and use it to pay out executive bonuses. Rural broadband is coming with Starlink, and none of this money is going to help with that.



There are good things in the stimulus bill, but the majority of the spending is nothing less then straight up corruption paid for by the taxpayer. I am ok with the bill just failing.
Wipeout the small farmers? lol. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face... You silly communists really have zero clue about how the world works. No wonder the democrat run cities are failing.
 
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If the socialist had their way we would have originally passed a package similar to Germany's. Instead almost half the country thinks healthcare for all is a communist idea. They also seem unaware that the republican's only agenda is making the the rich richer.
You are a complete fool if you believe socialism/communism is the way to prosperity. There are many examples out there if you'd like to read sometime.
 
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You are an intellectual joke. Democrats have always wanted a larger stimulus check. Some progressives monthly checks during the pandemic. Only due to Trump's failed leadership did he not put enough pressure on his party to do it.

But because you are a cult member to a corrupt buffoon do you say shit like this. You are an intellectual useless member of society.
So they took Trump up on his offer for a standalone $1200 stimulus check? Oh nevermind they didn't. They let the American people suffer because they thought it best for political gain. Enjoy your dystopian society out there in NY.
 

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You are a complete fool if you believe socialism/communism is the way to prosperity. There are many examples out there if you'd like to read sometime.

Surviving the pandemic isnt really about the road the prosperity, it's about keeping us afloat while waiting for the vaccine.
 
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Leeea

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Wipeout the small farmers? lol. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face... You silly communists really have zero clue about how the world works. No wonder the democrat run cities are failing.

I am advocating letting free market capitalism do what it is going to do.

Your advocating welfare.

and I am the communist?

As far as I am concerned you can take your planned economy welfare/yearly bailout for farmers and stuff it where the sun does not shine.
 

ewdotson

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So they took Trump up on his offer for a standalone $1200 stimulus check? Oh nevermind they didn't. They let the American people suffer because they thought it best for political gain. Enjoy your dystopian society out there in NY.
I'll ask again - Speaker Pelosi has enthusiastically endorsed the idea of a $2000 check. You will, of course, speak out in support of Speaker Pelosi as a result and against any obstructionism from the congressional GOP, right?
 

fskimospy

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So they took Trump up on his offer for a standalone $1200 stimulus check? Oh nevermind they didn't. They let the American people suffer because they thought it best for political gain. Enjoy your dystopian society out there in NY.
Why was Trump’s most recent offer $600 stimulus that wiped out aid for the unemployed? Trump randomly, flailingly offered like a dozen different things but because he’s lazy and incompetent he never followed through on any of them.

This is one of the reasons why he lost by seven million votes. The guy is just bad at his job.
 

fskimospy

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I'll ask again - Speaker Pelosi has enthusiastically endorsed the idea of a $2000 check. You will, of course, speak out in support of Speaker Pelosi as a result and against any obstructionism from the congressional GOP, right?
Exactly. If the GOP would sign off on $2,000 for everyone it would pass easily.

@OILFIELDTRASH Trump doesn’t really care about any of this. The only thing he is focused on right now is attempting to overturn the election he lost. If you’re worried about communists and all that I would focus on Trump’s ongoing attempts to end democracy.
 
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I'll ask again - Speaker Pelosi has enthusiastically endorsed the idea of a $2000 check. You will, of course, speak out in support of Speaker Pelosi as a result and against any obstructionism from the congressional GOP, right?
OFT thinks that Trump is going to outflank Democrats from the left. Anyone that thinks that is pretty fucking stupid.
 

IronWing

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OFT thinks that Trump is going to outflank Democrats from the left. Anyone that thinks that is pretty fucking stupid.
Well, he could, if he wasn't Trump. There's a whole lot of vacant real estate to the left of the modern Dems that someone could/should be staking out for political profit.
 

Homerboy

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Trump's a moron. He doesn't care about the checks and never did. Trump has always seen the checks as buying his way to reelection, and that didn't work did it Donald? So now by threatening to veto the bill, Trump is actually taking away the vaccines from American people and from states both red and blue, democrat and republican. So you see, Donald Trump doesn't care about the money, Donald Trump's only hope to to buy last minute chaos. But it doesn't matter because he can veto and the congress has the votes to override the orange baboon. GAWD.... exactly how many more days is it until January 20?

You are a complete idiot. He is pocket vetoing the bill - he can still sign it as long as it is within 10 days.... and Trump already knows he lost the election. How does this help Trump?

This 100% pisses off his fellow-REPUBLICANS like turtle Mitch who doesn't want to give in that level of stimulus checks. It puts the ball in his court to deny it - which if he does so is going to look REALLY fucking bad when the Georgia senate run-offs occur.

It also just pisses off congress in general, because they can't adjourn for the holidays or it kills the bill entirely.
 
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I am advocating letting free market capitalism do what it is going to do.

Your advocating welfare.

and I am the communist?

As far as I am concerned you can take your planned economy welfare/yearly bailout for farmers and stuff it where the sun does not shine.

It stopped being free-market capitalism when retarded power-hungry governors decided that it's a-okay to demand closing down various businesses - restaurants, bars, gyms, nail salons, hair salons, etc.. etc.. and the cherry on-top is not compensating them for what is clearly their fault.
 

fskimospy

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It stopped being free-market capitalism when retarded power-hungry governors decided that it's a-okay to demand closing down various businesses - restaurants, bars, gyms, nail salons, hair salons, etc.. etc.. and the cherry on-top is not compensating them for what is clearly their fault.
Lol what the fuck are you babbling about now.

Of course it’s okay to close businesses as part of public health measures. I don’t know how stupid someone would have to be to think otherwise.

The idea that enacting public health measures means the end of free market capitalism is something a middle schooler would think.
 

fskimospy

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The funniest part of Trump’s complaints about the bill is that the things he is complaining about were part of his own budget request.

I thought GWB would be the stupidest and least competent president in my lifetime. Oh man was I wrong.
 

Fenixgoon

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Lol what the fuck are you babbling about now.

Of course it’s okay to close businesses as part of public health measures. I don’t know how stupid someone would have to be to think otherwise.

The idea that enacting public health measures means the end of free market capitalism is something a middle schooler would think.
The irony is that a market requires customers, and killing off your customers is generally bad for business (though that doesn't seem to stop drug dealers who cut their product 🤔)

If anything, a competent medical response coupled with a hard, but short lockdown, and massive federal stimulus, and we would have largely been over this already.

But nooooo muh freedom!
 

Meghan54

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You are a complete idiot. He is pocket vetoing the bill - he can still sign it as long as it is within 10 days.... and Trump already knows he lost the election. How does this help Trump?

This 100% pisses off his fellow-REPUBLICANS like turtle Mitch who doesn't want to give in that level of stimulus checks. It puts the ball in his court to deny it - which if he does so is going to look REALLY fucking bad when the Georgia senate run-offs occur.

It also just pisses off congress in general, because they can't adjourn for the holidays or it kills the bill entirely.


You know Trump doesn't need to sign the bill, right? If he holds it the 10 days (not counting Sundays, btw), it becomes law anyway. Only way, as you mentioned, the pocket veto "works" is if Congress adjourns, and Congress doesn't adjourn for the holidays. Really never has, probably won't this time, either. Last few Congressional sessions, it was Jan. 3 for the adjournment and simultaneous start date of sessions.

 

Roger Wilco

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You are a complete fool if you believe socialism/communism is the way to prosperity. There are many examples out there if you'd like to read sometime.

Trump is a fucking communist. He’s trying to butter up Americans with stim checks so they comply with annexation into the China/Russia-backed shadow nation in the Antarctic.

Hes a filthy Kenyan maoist parading around like a white man. Where the fuck is the birth certificate?
 

hal2kilo

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Seems Trump wasn't getting enough attention. How else do you make any sense of this BS anymore.
 
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