2nd Stimulus Bipartisan Bill Introduced

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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$600 to each American. What a joke this is.

Basic Income is economically sound and would be deficit neutral if taxed accordingly. Furthermore, if a UBI was used to securitize home loans / rent, a majority of Americans would directly benefit even after they paid the tax to fund it. Do not underestimate how little the average person has right now, how fragile their situation is, and how easy it would be to improve their situation if we just cared enough to act.

These slapshot payments are far from the scale needed, but at a time when people are hurt from the virus and shutdowns, every bit does help.
 

MrSquished

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Wipeout the small farmers? lol. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face... You silly communists really have zero clue about how the world works. No wonder the democrat run cities are failing.
Government propping up an industry is kind of the opposite of free market capitalism. All you know are buzzwords but you have no idea what they mean.
 

zzyzxroad

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You are a complete idiot. He is pocket vetoing the bill - he can still sign it as long as it is within 10 days.... and Trump already knows he lost the election. How does this help Trump?

This 100% pisses off his fellow-REPUBLICANS like turtle Mitch who doesn't want to give in that level of stimulus checks. It puts the ball in his court to deny it - which if he does so is going to look REALLY fucking bad when the Georgia senate run-offs occur.

It also just pisses off congress in general, because they can't adjourn for the holidays or it kills the bill entirely.
You are a complete idiot if you don't realize this was a stunt by Trump to get his orange mug back on the television. He is an attention starved little brat and for someone who isn't a fan you sure defend his stupid ass a lot.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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You are a complete idiot if you don't realize this was a stunt by Trump to get his orange mug back on the television. He is an attention starved little brat and for someone who isn't a fan you sure defend his stupid ass a lot.
Bingo! COVID, COVID, COVID,... that's all I hear about. It was supposed to stop after Nov. 3.
 

Ajay

Lifer
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I'll say it again, Republican Senator Ron Johnson twice blocked $1200 stimulus payments.


He's worried about the future of our children - but thinks man made climate change is a hoax.
He grew up in the middle class, but, apparently - doesn't really care for the crushing struggles many are having due to the pandemic.
Oh, and eff the poors:

10. Ron Johnson – Estimated net worth of $10.4 Million
 
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You are a complete idiot if you don't realize this was a stunt by Trump to get his orange mug back on the television. He is an attention starved little brat and for someone who isn't a fan you sure defend his stupid ass a lot.

You THINK he did this for ATTENTION?

How low is your IQ level? He IS the fucking POTUS. He has attention 24/7. If he wants a bunch of cameras on him - he can do it at anytime anywhere for any subject.

God damn you guys really have your heads shoved far up there where you come up with this innate schizophrenia-like logic.

Is it really that crazy to believe that the president thinks the american people should receive more than a $600 peso payment along with billions upon billions going to other countries and worthless studies when people are suffering left and right? Nevermind, don't answer that. It's like talking to a children here.
 

hal2kilo

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Trump is in his final stages of seeking revenge for his perceived slights . See, us normies, have always known Trump was a criminal and unstable, we just did not realize how much. Well, you Trumpies get to have a ring side seat at his madness. You realize he's trying to extort what's left of the Republican party. He willing to lose the Georgia seats and throw Mitch into political obscurity, at this very moment for his admitting that Joe Biden is going to be the next president. Hope you had your fun trying to burn it down. You got close, but it's over.
 

MrSquished

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You THINK he did this for ATTENTION?

How low is your IQ level? He IS the fucking POTUS. He has attention 24/7. If he wants a bunch of cameras on him - he can do it at anytime anywhere for any subject.

God damn you guys really have your heads shoved far up there where you come up with this innate schizophrenia-like logic.

That's the point. He is indeed the POTUS. He clearly had numerous Democrats wanting to give more stimulus to individuals and specific stimulus to restaurants via the Restaurants Act since the spring, it's fucking Christmas now, but he did not use the power of his office to get it done for 2/3 of a year now. His party ignored it most of the year, and while the WH did eventually start negotiating with Dems in the late fall, Mitch would not commit to any package that large, period. Trump did not use the power of the presidency and bully pulpit to try to turn the tide like a good leader would do. And now he wants to put his foot down? A lot of it is theater and part of theater is for attention. And because morons like you come in and say 'look it's Trumps idea to give folks more money in a time of need' and give him the credit, so he does it, because he knows people are fucking dumb and will say exactly what you said in this thread.
 

zzyzxroad

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You THINK he did this for ATTENTION?

How low is your IQ level? He IS the fucking POTUS. He has attention 24/7. If he wants a bunch of cameras on him - he can do it at anytime anywhere for any subject.

God damn you guys really have your heads shoved far up there where you come up with this innate schizophrenia-like logic.

Is it really that crazy to believe that the president thinks the american people should receive more than a $600 peso payment along with billions upon billions going to other countries and worthless studies when people are suffering left and right? Nevermind, don't answer that. It's like talking to a children here.

So complete idiot it is then. You sure you don't love Trump?
 
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zzyzxroad

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That's the point. He is indeed the POTUS. He clearly had numerous Democrats wanting to give more stimulus to individuals and specific stimulus to restaurants via the Restaurants Act since the spring, it's fucking Christmas now, but he did not use the power of his office to get it done for 2/3 of a year now. His party ignored it most of the year, and while the WH did eventually start negotiating with Dems in the late fall, Mitch would not commit to any package that large, period. Trump did not use the power of the presidency and bully pulpit to try to turn the tide like a good leader would do. And now he wants to put his foot down? A lot of it is theater and part of theater is for attention. And because morons like you come in and say 'look it's Trumps idea to give folks more money in a time of need' and give him the credit, so he does it, because he knows people are fucking dumb and will say exactly what you said in this thread.
Exactly, as if trump cares about anyone but himself.

It's comical that that guy pretends not to be a Trump lover.
 

fskimospy

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You THINK he did this for ATTENTION?

How low is your IQ level? He IS the fucking POTUS. He has attention 24/7. If he wants a bunch of cameras on him - he can do it at anytime anywhere for any subject.

God damn you guys really have your heads shoved far up there where you come up with this innate schizophrenia-like logic.

Is it really that crazy to believe that the president thinks the american people should receive more than a $600 peso payment along with billions upon billions going to other countries and worthless studies when people are suffering left and right? Nevermind, don't answer that. It's like talking to a children here.
You think Trump gives a single solitary shit about whether or not Americans are suffering?

Ahahahahahahahaha. You say a lot of stupid things but that has to be one of the all time greats.

I mean my god, how kind bogglingly stupid would someone have to be to think Trump cares about Americans.
 

ewdotson

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Additionally, it's probably worth emphasizing that the covid relief package was only a part of the larger omnibus spending bill. (Which needed to be passed. This would be a terrible time for a government shutdown.) It's not actually accurate to say that the foreign aid was part of the covid relief package, for example. Here's a breakdown of what was *actually* part of that one section of the larger spending bill:

 

fskimospy

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Additionally, it's probably worth emphasizing that the covid relief package was only a part of the larger omnibus spending bill. (Which needed to be passed. This would be a terrible time for a government shutdown.) It's not actually accurate to say that the foreign aid was part of the covid relief package, for example. Here's a breakdown of what was *actually* part of that one section of the larger spending bill:

And the foreign aid being complained about is actually less than Trump’s own administration requested.
 
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sportage

Lifer
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Only 25 days left. Only 25 days....
Trump can stop the stimulus and stop the defense bill but Trump can't stop THE INEVITABLE i.e. his departure.

And frankly, is 25 days so long to wait? In 25 days we will have Joe Biden signing the bills and the stimulus checks. In 25 more days we will get our stimulus legislation, in 25 more days we will get a lot of good stuff like holding Russia accountable and a true Covid game plan plus lots of vaccines and the best of all in 25 days we will have a president that when he speaks to America, America won't need to punk their guts. Having a president that doesn't make America physically ill will be a nice change of pace even for the Trumpies.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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You THINK he did this for ATTENTION?

How low is your IQ level? He IS the fucking POTUS. He has attention 24/7. If he wants a bunch of cameras on him - he can do it at anytime anywhere for any subject.

God damn you guys really have your heads shoved far up there where you come up with this innate schizophrenia-like logic.

Is it really that crazy to believe that the president thinks the american people should receive more than a $600 peso payment along with billions upon billions going to other countries and worthless studies when people are suffering left and right? Nevermind, don't answer that. It's like talking to a children here.

LMAO you are ready to pin a medal on Trump's chest for throwing a fit at the eleventh hour when he's been MIA for months on this.

Yeah, we agree the stimulus is too small. Who wanted bigger, Dems or Rs?

Personally, I applaud grandstanding Trumpo to take a breather from his coup to call out the cravenness of his own party. Timing couldn't be more epic to help the GA Senate races and show the awful economy we will have if Mitch is in power.
 
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LMAO you are ready to pin a medal on Trump's chest for throwing a fit at the eleventh hour when he's been MIA for months on this.

Yeah, we agree the stimulus is too small. Who wanted bigger, Dems or Rs?

Personally, I applaud grandstanding Trumpo to take a breather from his coup to call out the cravenness of his own party. Timing couldn't be more epic to help the GA Senate races and show the awful economy we will have if Mitch is in power.
I'm entirely agreeing with you. I sincerely don't give a flying shit who endorsed it. I wish it would have been said and acted on more intensely way earlier in this stimulus bill.

I also stated earlier, this only hurts fellow Republicans. If anything it's inciting internal conflicts because there ARE Republicans that agree a larger stimulus check is a must. The only problem is the gate-keeper Mitch holds the key. The kicker here though is that this will effect the Georgia run offs. Hopefully this lights a fire under Mitch to bring it to the floor.
 

Thump553

Lifer
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LMAO you are ready to pin a medal on Trump's chest for throwing a fit at the eleventh hour when he's been MIA for months on this.

Yeah, we agree the stimulus is too small. Who wanted bigger, Dems or Rs?

Personally, I applaud grandstanding Trumpo to take a breather from his coup to call out the cravenness of his own party. Timing couldn't be more epic to help the GA Senate races and show the awful economy we will have if Mitch is in power.

Trump was much more than MIA-he had his Treasury Secretary act as point man for him in these negotiations. Up until last night the WH was firmly against anything more than a token payout to the little guys, in line with the rest of the GOP. Trump is performing his role of Mr. Chaos yet again-and it's getting to be a very old show.
 
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