3 Way SLi

[nRollo]

n7 and BFG10K brought up some points in another thread in regard to 3 way SLi I thought should be addressed in a 3 way thread, rather than further de-railing the 3870X2 thread.

One has to pay off the credit card for an overpriced 3-way SLI motherboard, overpriced GTX/Ultras, overpriced case, & overpriced PSU.

What would be very welcome is a new high end single card solution instead another SLI sandwich solution that no one wants that can do well with my 2560x1600.

While it's true a single GPU solution that offered the level of performance of 3 way SLi would be preferable, I think what you're asking for is far easier said than done.

It's true that it's not inexpensive to set up a 3 way Sli rig, but having the "best of the best" is never cheap in computer equipment.

To play at 25X16 you need all the help you can get, as you should know n7:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page5.asp
85fps average vs 31fps average at Bioshock is a pretty good illustration of the value of 3way- and that's with 8X AA. Also note the minimum fps for 19X12 in the chart at the bottom of the page- 33 vs 81.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page6.asp
Same thing at COH- 60fps ave beats 20fps ave any day, and this is DX10 with 8X AA. Same situation with 19X12 minimums as well.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page7.asp
COD4 is at 77 vs 33 fps average- looks to me like 3 Way SLi is the only thing out there that makes high AA gaming a reality for us n7.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page8.asp
Lost Planet is showing over 3X the performance, and is unplayable single card.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page9.asp
Oblivion is at 54 vs 21- again playable vs not.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page10.asp
81 ave vs 30 ave at FEAR.

So you see n7, the payoff I was referring to was being able to use your monitor to game with the ultimate image quality available. That's worth a few bucks.

I don't regret having to get a case with a lot of airflow or a high end PSU- those things don't become obsolete nearly as quickly as CPUs and GPUs. More airflow is always good, and having rock solid power is always preferable as well.

 

[tvdang7]

i dont really get what the point your trying to get off here?

so tri-sli is good? even if its expensive?

you didnt really talk about the performance between sli and tri sli. its not that much, yes its much faster compared to a single card.

EDIT o its the ROLLO guy everyone talks about.
i see the marketing has begun.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

lol, so true. Oh no...memories of overpriced 7800GTX 512s come to mind.

 

[humanure]

I bet 4 way would be even better.

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

My thoughts exactly. Who cares about driver problems when the cards are free? I would take that situation any day.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: humanure
I bet 4 way would be even better.

Heck, let's not stop there, we need 5-way SLI...after all, they're going to have to find some number higher than AMD's quadfire. :laugh:

Rollo, you and i have had lots of SLI discussions over the years, & my opinion hasn't changed; if anything; it's become more resolute that SLI/CF are not valid alternatives to a single card

I'll link to this poll; it about sums up how interested people here are about 3-Way SLI: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2136327&enterthread=y

Are you running multiple video cards? (Total Votes: 206)
No - 195 votes 94.66 (%)
Yes - SLi - 4 votes 1.94 (%)
Yes - Crossfire - 3 votes 1.46 (%)
Yes - not SLI/Crossfire enabled - 4 votes 1.94 (%)

On an enthusiast forum where we do spend lots of money on our setup, there's a whopping 3.4% of the people running SLI/CF.
'Nuff said.

The irony of this is that even if nV offered me 2 free GTXs (to add with mine) + a motherboard to support them, i wouldn't keep them; i'd sell them & the motherboard & buy a P35, & possibly put the rest toward a better 30"

 

[DSF]

You peasants, you think so small.

There are 7 expansion slots in the back of ATX cases. Clearly what we need is 7-way SLI.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: DSF
You peasants, you think so small.

There are 7 expansion slots in the back of ATX cases. Clearly what we need is 7-way SLI.

Yes, with single slots coolers baby.

Imagine the potential for overheating, woohoo!

 

[Syntax Error]

Price-to-performance is where I'm concerned. Sure, you can get the best-of-the-best but it'll cost me an arm and a leg, and that's something I'm not readily willing to fork over for marginal increases in performance.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: CP5670

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

My thoughts exactly. Who cares about driver problems when the cards are free? I would take that situation any day.

Getting the cards free is only part of the deal in rigs like mine CP5670- I spent over $2000. out of my own pocket on the 3 way upgrade as well. (bought a monitor, QX6700, 2 more GB RAM, a case, and a psu)

I very much appreciate the parts NVIDIA gives me, but there seems to be a misconception going on in this thread that I don't put anything into my gaming myself. (and that's not the case)

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: humanure
I bet 4 way would be even better.

Heck, let's not stop there, we need 5-way SLI...after all, they're going to have to find some number higher than AMD's quadfire. :laugh:

Rollo, you and i have had lots of SLI discussions over the years, & my opinion hasn't changed; if anything; it's become more resolute that SLI/CF are not valid alternatives to a single card

I'll link to this poll; it about sums up how interested people here are about 3-Way SLI: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2136327&enterthread=y

Are you running multiple video cards? (Total Votes: 206)
No - 195 votes 94.66 (%)
Yes - SLi - 4 votes 1.94 (%)
Yes - Crossfire - 3 votes 1.46 (%)
Yes - not SLI/Crossfire enabled - 4 votes 1.94 (%)

On an enthusiast forum where we do spend lots of money on our setup, there's a whopping 3.4% of the people running SLI/CF.
'Nuff said.

The irony of this is that even if nV offered me 2 free GTXs (to add with mine) + a motherboard to support them, i wouldn't keep them; i'd sell them & the motherboard & buy a P35, & possibly put the rest toward a better 30"

There's only 3 of us there with 30" monitors as well n7.

My point was that for you (and me) SLi is almost a necessity.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: Rollo
n7 and BFG10K brought up some points in another thread in regard to 3 way SLi I thought should be addressed in a 3 way thread, rather than further de-railing the 3870X2 thread.

One has to pay off the credit card for an overpriced 3-way SLI motherboard, overpriced GTX/Ultras, overpriced case, & overpriced PSU.

What would be very welcome is a new high end single card solution instead another SLI sandwich solution that no one wants that can do well with my 2560x1600.

While it's true a single GPU solution that offered the level of performance of 3 way SLi would be preferable, I think what you're asking for is far easier said than done.

It's true that it's not inexpensive to set up a 3 way Sli rig, but having the "best of the best" is never cheap in computer equipment.

To play at 25X16 you need all the help you can get, as you should know n7:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page5.asp
85fps average vs 31fps average at Bioshock is a pretty good illustration of the value of 3way- and that's with 8X AA. Also note the minimum fps for 19X12 in the chart at the bottom of the page- 33 vs 81.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page6.asp
Same thing at COH- 60fps ave beats 20fps ave any day, and this is DX10 with 8X AA. Same situation with 19X12 minimums as well.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page7.asp
COD4 is at 77 vs 33 fps average- looks to me like 3 Way SLi is the only thing out there that makes high AA gaming a reality for us n7.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page8.asp
Lost Planet is showing over 3X the performance, and is unplayable single card.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page9.asp
Oblivion is at 54 vs 21- again playable vs not.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page10.asp
81 ave vs 30 ave at FEAR.

So you see n7, the payoff I was referring to was being able to use your monitor to game with the ultimate image quality available. That's worth a few bucks.

I don't regret having to get a case with a lot of airflow or a high end PSU- those things don't become obsolete nearly as quickly as CPUs and GPUs. More airflow is always good, and having rock solid power is always preferable as well.

Frankly I see Triple SLI To Be as worthless as Tits on a Boar Hog !

There is No Value to the Equation... + 600.00 for a piece of toast that will be carbonized in no time

Add a Physics Processor for total Worthlessness.. Along With Your Killer NIC, and Your OCZ SLI Certified Memory, and Your SLI Certified Case, And your SLI Certified Mouse pad, and Keyboard...

"The Party Line" information from "The Channel" is one thing it is a whole different thing in "The Real World".

I'm not sure why they Re-Instated you.... But You can Crawl Back underneath that Rock....

The Front Office there needs to wake-up both here at AT, and In Sunnyvale...

Open your platform... or Die a Very Competitive Death as predicted by Kyle Bennett over at HardOCP..... Intel is coming , and you need to fix your stuff or they will squash you like a Slug...




Marketing 101- "Make Them Think That They Need It"


It's All Marketing !


I Love the Video Cards, I Just hate "The Steaming Pile" that Comes with them.

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: CP5670

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

My thoughts exactly. Who cares about driver problems when the cards are free? I would take that situation any day.

Getting the cards free is only part of the deal in rigs like mine CP5670- I spent over $2000. out of my own pocket on the 3 way upgrade as well. (bought a monitor, QX6700, 2 more GB RAM, a case, and a psu)

I very much appreciate the parts NVIDIA gives me, but there seems to be a misconception going on in this thread that I don't put anything into my gaming myself. (and that's not the case)

In other words, the cards and the motherboard are free. That is still about $1500 worth of stuff and an excellent deal if you ask me. I too would be more than willing to overlook any issues if I was getting that kind of hardware.

 

[humanure]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: humanure
I bet 4 way would be even better.

Heck, let's not stop there, we need 5-way SLI...after all, they're going to have to find some number higher than AMD's quadfire. :laugh:

Rollo, you and i have had lots of SLI discussions over the years, & my opinion hasn't changed; if anything; it's become more resolute that SLI/CF are not valid alternatives to a single card

I'll link to this poll; it about sums up how interested people here are about 3-Way SLI: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2136327&enterthread=y

Are you running multiple video cards? (Total Votes: 206)
No - 195 votes 94.66 (%)
Yes - SLi - 4 votes 1.94 (%)
Yes - Crossfire - 3 votes 1.46 (%)
Yes - not SLI/Crossfire enabled - 4 votes 1.94 (%)

On an enthusiast forum where we do spend lots of money on our setup, there's a whopping 3.4% of the people running SLI/CF.
'Nuff said.

The irony of this is that even if nV offered me 2 free GTXs (to add with mine) + a motherboard to support them, i wouldn't keep them; i'd sell them & the motherboard & buy a P35, & possibly put the rest toward a better 30"

exactly n7, I bet many of us on here have considered sli and or CF at some point, and it almost never makes sense. It only makes sense at the high end, when most games run fine with 1 card, and I personally can't justify double the cost for the gain in performance etc. It's always just seemed like a way to sell more cards imo.

 

[McCartney]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: humanure
I bet 4 way would be even better.

Heck, let's not stop there, we need 5-way SLI...after all, they're going to have to find some number higher than AMD's quadfire. :laugh:

Rollo, you and i have had lots of SLI discussions over the years, & my opinion hasn't changed; if anything; it's become more resolute that SLI/CF are not valid alternatives to a single card

I'll link to this poll; it about sums up how interested people here are about 3-Way SLI: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2136327&enterthread=y

Are you running multiple video cards? (Total Votes: 206)
No - 195 votes 94.66 (%)
Yes - SLi - 4 votes 1.94 (%)
Yes - Crossfire - 3 votes 1.46 (%)
Yes - not SLI/Crossfire enabled - 4 votes 1.94 (%)

On an enthusiast forum where we do spend lots of money on our setup, there's a whopping 3.4% of the people running SLI/CF.
'Nuff said.

The irony of this is that even if nV offered me 2 free GTXs (to add with mine) + a motherboard to support them, i wouldn't keep them; i'd sell them & the motherboard & buy a P35, & possibly put the rest toward a better 30"

There's only 3 of us there with 30" monitors as well n7.

My point was that for you (and me) SLi is almost a necessity.

How do I join the club rollo? I'm only 20 but I'm an nvidiot too (See my posts on Hardforum). I wouldn't mind becoming a paid advocate either (seriously) even if it costs alot for am embership

 

[CP5670]

I personally don't find the cost or power/heat to be that big of a deal, but what I do have a problem with is the fact that these multi-GPU setups don't operate like a single card at the driver level and have countless problems with game compatibility. I'll quote myself from another recent thread on this:

From what I've seen, the issues generally come up in games that aren't commonly benchmarked or are a little older. There are also some cases of subtle problems that aren't immediately apparent or that you only encounter halfway through the game.

I don't have experience with Crossfire but I had an SLI setup (7800s) in 2006 and ran into some issue or another in the vast majority of my games at the time, both new and old. This included dysfunctional vsync, performance identical to a single card, wild framerate fluctuations in certain situations, rendering glitches, random CTDs and various other things. This is the last thing one wants to see after spending so much money on the setup. I eventually just started using single card mode in many of my games because I was getting tired of wasting a hour with each game, tweaking it and trying to get SLI to work properly with it. I ended up switching to a single X1900 shortly after that. People say that the 7 series SLI was better than the 8 series, so I would be even less inclined to try it again now.

 

[DaveBC]

Originally posted by: Rollo
n7 and BFG10K brought up some points in another thread in regard to 3 way SLi I thought should be addressed in a 3 way thread, rather than further de-railing the 3870X2 thread.

One has to pay off the credit card for an overpriced 3-way SLI motherboard, overpriced GTX/Ultras, overpriced case, & overpriced PSU.

What would be very welcome is a new high end single card solution instead another SLI sandwich solution that no one wants that can do well with my 2560x1600.

While it's true a single GPU solution that offered the level of performance of 3 way SLi would be preferable, I think what you're asking for is far easier said than done.

It's true that it's not inexpensive to set up a 3 way Sli rig, but having the "best of the best" is never cheap in computer equipment.

To play at 25X16 you need all the help you can get, as you should know n7:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page5.asp
85fps average vs 31fps average at Bioshock is a pretty good illustration of the value of 3way- and that's with 8X AA. Also note the minimum fps for 19X12 in the chart at the bottom of the page- 33 vs 81.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page6.asp
Same thing at COH- 60fps ave beats 20fps ave any day, and this is DX10 with 8X AA. Same situation with 19X12 minimums as well.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page7.asp
COD4 is at 77 vs 33 fps average- looks to me like 3 Way SLi is the only thing out there that makes high AA gaming a reality for us n7.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page8.asp
Lost Planet is showing over 3X the performance, and is unplayable single card.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page9.asp
Oblivion is at 54 vs 21- again playable vs not.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page10.asp
81 ave vs 30 ave at FEAR.

So you see n7, the payoff I was referring to was being able to use your monitor to game with the ultimate image quality available. That's worth a few bucks.

I don't regret having to get a case with a lot of airflow or a high end PSU- those things don't become obsolete nearly as quickly as CPUs and GPUs. More airflow is always good, and having rock solid power is always preferable as well.

I find it sort of frustrating that even with my quad and a pair 8800 GTS's (which is alot of money for me) I can't play the latest games at high settings with any AA.

Sorta looks like I'll have to budget for the extreme high end.... or give up my passion. Maybe golf will be more affordable.. isgust;

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: DaveBC

Originally posted by: Rollo
n7 and BFG10K brought up some points in another thread in regard to 3 way SLi I thought should be addressed in a 3 way thread, rather than further de-railing the 3870X2 thread.

One has to pay off the credit card for an overpriced 3-way SLI motherboard, overpriced GTX/Ultras, overpriced case, & overpriced PSU.

What would be very welcome is a new high end single card solution instead another SLI sandwich solution that no one wants that can do well with my 2560x1600.

While it's true a single GPU solution that offered the level of performance of 3 way SLi would be preferable, I think what you're asking for is far easier said than done.

It's true that it's not inexpensive to set up a 3 way Sli rig, but having the "best of the best" is never cheap in computer equipment.

To play at 25X16 you need all the help you can get, as you should know n7:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page5.asp
85fps average vs 31fps average at Bioshock is a pretty good illustration of the value of 3way- and that's with 8X AA. Also note the minimum fps for 19X12 in the chart at the bottom of the page- 33 vs 81.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page6.asp
Same thing at COH- 60fps ave beats 20fps ave any day, and this is DX10 with 8X AA. Same situation with 19X12 minimums as well.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page7.asp
COD4 is at 77 vs 33 fps average- looks to me like 3 Way SLi is the only thing out there that makes high AA gaming a reality for us n7.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page8.asp
Lost Planet is showing over 3X the performance, and is unplayable single card.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page9.asp
Oblivion is at 54 vs 21- again playable vs not.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page10.asp
81 ave vs 30 ave at FEAR.

So you see n7, the payoff I was referring to was being able to use your monitor to game with the ultimate image quality available. That's worth a few bucks.

I don't regret having to get a case with a lot of airflow or a high end PSU- those things don't become obsolete nearly as quickly as CPUs and GPUs. More airflow is always good, and having rock solid power is always preferable as well.

I find it sort of frustrating that even with my quad and a pair 8800 GTS's (which is alot of money for me) I can't play the latest games at high settings with any AA.

Sorta looks like I'll have to budget for the extreme high end.... or give up my passion. Maybe golf will be more affordable.. isgust;

Really? I have a single GTS 640 and the only game that I cannot use highest settings and AA is in Crysis. All other games (CoD4, Bioshock, Stalker, FEAR and some others) I can use
at least 2xAA. Usually 4xAA. This is at 1680x1050 mind you. So what games can't you run with SLI'd GTS's at high settings with AA?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: CP5670

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: CP5670

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I wouldn't mind tripple SLI if nVidia bought me my setup.

My thoughts exactly. Who cares about driver problems when the cards are free? I would take that situation any day.

Getting the cards free is only part of the deal in rigs like mine CP5670- I spent over $2000. out of my own pocket on the 3 way upgrade as well. (bought a monitor, QX6700, 2 more GB RAM, a case, and a psu)

I very much appreciate the parts NVIDIA gives me, but there seems to be a misconception going on in this thread that I don't put anything into my gaming myself. (and that's not the case)

In other words, the cards and the motherboard are free. That is still about $1500 worth of stuff and an excellent deal if you ask me. I too would be more than willing to overlook any issues if I was getting that kind of hardware.

No one is "overlooking" anything.

My problems with 3 way SLi so far:

1. My XaserIII case didn't provide adequate airflow. I replaced it with a case that did.

2. The non certified 1200W PSU I bought wasn't adequate power because two of the 6 pin connectors were on a split line. I replaced it with a certified PSU.

3. I've had some issues with Crysis.

4. I've had the Unreal engine stop issue. (where game occasionally stops for a second then starts)

I haven't tried to hide any of this or gloss it over, it's all been posted at various places.

OTOH- I'm able to game at 25X16 with AA/AF in new games with 3 way SLi and when that is going on it looks better than anything you've ever seen computer gaming. To me, it's worth a few tradeoffs and some cash for that.

Most people here would say it's worth buying the $250 card instead of the $150 card to play at 16X10 with AA instead of without.

There's no difference in what I'm saying, it's just a matter of degree. I think it's worth the extra money to have the higher res and image quality, if you don't, that's fine.

 

[DaveBC]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: DaveBC

Originally posted by: Rollo
n7 and BFG10K brought up some points in another thread in regard to 3 way SLi I thought should be addressed in a 3 way thread, rather than further de-railing the 3870X2 thread.

One has to pay off the credit card for an overpriced 3-way SLI motherboard, overpriced GTX/Ultras, overpriced case, & overpriced PSU.

What would be very welcome is a new high end single card solution instead another SLI sandwich solution that no one wants that can do well with my 2560x1600.

While it's true a single GPU solution that offered the level of performance of 3 way SLi would be preferable, I think what you're asking for is far easier said than done.

It's true that it's not inexpensive to set up a 3 way Sli rig, but having the "best of the best" is never cheap in computer equipment.

To play at 25X16 you need all the help you can get, as you should know n7:

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page5.asp
85fps average vs 31fps average at Bioshock is a pretty good illustration of the value of 3way- and that's with 8X AA. Also note the minimum fps for 19X12 in the chart at the bottom of the page- 33 vs 81.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page6.asp
Same thing at COH- 60fps ave beats 20fps ave any day, and this is DX10 with 8X AA. Same situation with 19X12 minimums as well.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page7.asp
COD4 is at 77 vs 33 fps average- looks to me like 3 Way SLi is the only thing out there that makes high AA gaming a reality for us n7.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page8.asp
Lost Planet is showing over 3X the performance, and is unplayable single card.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har..._performance/page9.asp
Oblivion is at 54 vs 21- again playable vs not.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page10.asp
81 ave vs 30 ave at FEAR.

So you see n7, the payoff I was referring to was being able to use your monitor to game with the ultimate image quality available. That's worth a few bucks.

I don't regret having to get a case with a lot of airflow or a high end PSU- those things don't become obsolete nearly as quickly as CPUs and GPUs. More airflow is always good, and having rock solid power is always preferable as well.

I find it sort of frustrating that even with my quad and a pair 8800 GTS's (which is alot of money for me) I can't play the latest games at high settings with any AA.

Sorta looks like I'll have to budget for the extreme high end.... or give up my passion. Maybe golf will be more affordable.. isgust;

Really? I have a single GTS 640 and the only game that I cannot use highest settings and AA is in Crysis. All other games (CoD4, Bioshock, Stalker, FEAR and some others) I can use
at least 2xAA. Usually 4xAA. This is at 1680x1050 mind you. So what games can't you run with SLI'd GTS's at high settings with AA?

COD 4 is very playable. Bioshock too if i don't use more that 2xAA. Believe it or not. Crysis drops to 10 - 15 FPS on the Paradise Lost level. That's not even on Very High. Just on High. Have to turn off shadows or drop to Medium to keep it playing....

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: DaveBC

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Really? I have a single GTS 640 and the only game that I cannot use highest settings and AA is in Crysis. All other games (CoD4, Bioshock, Stalker, FEAR and some others) I can use
at least 2xAA. Usually 4xAA. This is at 1680x1050 mind you. So what games can't you run with SLI'd GTS's at high settings with AA?

COD 4 is very playable. Bioshock too if i don't use more that 2xAA. Believe it or not. Crysis drops to 10 - 15 FPS on the Paradise Lost level. That's not even on Very High. Just on High. Have to turn off shadows or drop to Medium to keep it playing....

My settings in Crysis:

1440x900
Everything HIGH except: Post Processing set to medium and Shadow Processing set to medium.

No AA

My FPS fluctuates between 20 - 60 fps depending on what's going on.

You, even with a single 8800GTS512 should be able to do at least that. Something is not right there. I would remove one of your GTS's and test it with a single card. if you see no difference in performance, than your SLI isn't working. You should have way better performance than i do. Look at my paltry rig compared to yours. Are you using the latest drivers? Do you have the Crysis patch installed?

Oh DUH!!!! Never mind. I see your using a 32" monitor. LOL. That explains quite a bit. Sorry I missed that little detail.

 

[videogames101]

Wait, since when was rollo allowed back here?

I like your Back in Black post, fits nicely....

Just like the good old days,
Let the flaming begin!

 

[MegaWorks]

"Paid Nvidia Advocate" :laugh:

 

[videogames101]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
"Paid Nvidia Advocate" :laugh:

well, it's true :shocked: