I've been using Steam since the beta with what was it CS 1.6? And I've never even seen the survey pop up.
I've been using Steam since the beta with what was it CS 1.6? And I've never even seen the survey pop up.Is there a setting to turn that survey off? I have, literally, not seen it in at least over a decade! I was wondering if I'd turned it off somewhere.
I'm actually thinking of seeing how best to and what data points are needed for analyzing this. The math and data needed might be a lot less than we think.A good number of $599 models available on Newegg. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601408877
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In this tweet discussion about Mind Factory sales, the user Nike7230 cites the same thing I have about AMD v. Nvidia for the Steam survey. Taken with the info about how AMD sits at 30-40% in sales at MF for years. But has been in the 50-60s the last couple of months, AMD cards not having a bigger representation in the survey is damned fishy.
Do me a favor if you are on a system with Steam right now, or when you get home. Open the Run box and type the command - steam://takesurvey/2/I've been using Steam since the beta with what was it CS 1.6? And I've never even seen the survey pop up.
That'd be great. I was going to let sleeping dogs lie. But seeing others having the same experience I am where only their Nvidia system wants to submit the survey, is one of those things that makes you go hmmmm . Probably nothing, but I never underestimate the level of shenanigans companies will sink to either. Particularly when they are easily explained away if outed. "Sorry, it was a bug."I'm actually thinking of seeing how best to and what data points are needed for analyzing this. The math and data needed might be a lot less than we think.
Ever heard of GIGO?
Your starting assumption is that this is really random. Well anecdotal experience seems to have questions. A statistical analysis will be able to say with high confidence if Steam is really random.
Regarding Jon Peddie, read the recent Intel sales numbers retraction and see how one should not use the appeal to authority argument . Works on most though, I guess.
Confirmation bias? Seriously, think slower before accusing. As the Latins said "Festina Lente"Ever hear of Confirmation Bias. Because you are exhibiting textbook example.
If we were only talking about 1 quarter you would have an argument. But we have many years of consistent Steam Survey and Jon Peddie and other analysts all in agreement. Jon Peddie retracting one quarters mistake is clear that there is feedback in their system when it goes wrong. But there isn't a history or retractions, in previous years of results.
Basically we have MANY years of correlating results from multiple analysts and Steam, and some of you think the results aren't valid, because you don't like what they say and are latching on to one retail chain in Germany as your counter claim...
Thats what happens with me. I'm not convinced its an AMD/Nvidia thing though. I only just upgraded from a GTX1080 and I cant recall the survey ever happening with that either. I just think that the survey is just broken, I'm not sure there is any bias to it.Do me a favor if you are on a system with Steam right now, or when you get home. Open the Run box and type the command - steam://takesurvey/2/
See if it completes sending the system info. Mine never finishes and I have to cancel.
Even it it isn't nerfed, that's what the excuse would be. 🤫Thats what happens with me. I'm not convinced its an AMD/Nvidia thing though. I only just upgraded from a GTX1080 and I cant recall the survey ever happening with that either. I just think that the survey is just broken, I'm not sure there is any bias to it.
Purely anecdotal on my part, but Steam asks me about every 2 years to take the survey, and most of those times I had AMD hardware. I've probably taken it about 7-8 times now, with maybe 1-2 of those times being with an Nvidia card.That'd be great. I was going to let sleeping dogs lie. But seeing others having the same experience I am where only their Nvidia system wants to submit the survey, is one of those things that makes you go hmmmm . Probably nothing, but I never underestimate the level of shenanigans companies will sink to either. Particularly when they are easily explained away if outed. "Sorry, it was a bug."
Of course I know it -
This is the 4070's time to shine... Come all ye' Pascal and Turing faithful, now is the time!nvidia is really going all out on 4070 marketing. I've never seen so many 0 day reviews from dinky youtube channels with less than 50K subscribers...
Looking at the NE page for 4070, seeing the MSI ventus models both at $599. 3 fan models with no apparent rgb, one with an OC in the name, the other not. Both the same price. Perhaps the rumors that Nvidia is subsidizing card makers for a bit is true.
Maybe. Or maybe judging by how many review samples are out there; there is crazy good supply. More evidence for that hypothesis is how many different models are available. It's a pretty big day one selection.Doesn't look like gamers really give a crap.
Based on my own graphics card buying going back to when they became available to the masses it's come down o high prices and last gen looking more palatable and tech stacks like dlss3 not managing to lock even the most anal gamers into buying into 40 series.this and jh being a prick by overcharging and getting amd to pile onto their own msrp by association is fueling the slow growth imo.Maybe. Or maybe judging by how many review samples are out there; there is crazy good supply. More evidence for that hypothesis is how many different models are available. It's a pretty big day one selection.
What isn't in doubt is that it's too early to tell yet. Nor can we judge by historic metrics. Accept it or not, the timeline went wacky a few years ago. The following expression has never been more accurate - That was then, this is now.
Good a guess as any. I have to remind myself that we are in a market contraction we haven't seen in a long time. That will play its part. I think it was savvy to release it now regardless. Ali nailed it with his review IMO. I will start it where the 3070 is nerfing Sarah's hair in Last of Us when the 2070 isn't for some reason. Maybe just run to run variance with how the frame buffer overflows and restarting can get textures to load in this game.Based on my own graphics card buying going back to when they became available to the masses it's come down o high prices and last gen looking more palatable and tech stacks like dlss3 not managing to lock even the most anal gamers into buying into 40 series.this and jh being a prick by overcharging and getting amd to pile onto their own msrp by association is fueling the slow growth imo.
idk who ali is but the last marekt contraction was in 20010 - 2011 and those spanned an nvidia refresh of 8000, gtx 400 and gtx 500 series. idr pricing being too bad then because everything was cheaper. amd was hot on nvidia's tail back then and then bitcoin began a near decade long tail spin of pricing, availability and people fetishizing alternative currencies.Good a guess as any. I have to remind myself that we are in a market contraction we haven't seen in a long time. That will play its part. I think it was savvy to release it now regardless. Ali nailed it with his review IMO. I will start it where the 3070 is nerfing Sarah's hair in Last of Us when the 2070 isn't for some reason. Maybe just run to run variance with how the frame buffer overflows and restarting can get textures to load in this game.
Exactly. Top tier 1080p performance is now a $600 GPU.At $600 though, nah, too much money for not enough of a performance jump and 12GB of VRAM at $600 also feels like something that will relegate it to a 1080p card
And here I am with my 290x and 4 gb ram at 1080p. (but older games). still reducing settings with amlost no visual effect usually make so much sense. 4070 is for sure a 1440p card and not 1080p. here the "no bad prodcut but bad pricing" applies.12GB is now the entry level for no compromise 1080p.