512MB 7800GTX

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
My rumor says that it is 550MHz/1050MHz on CPU/Mem. Oh wait, thats the Quadro 4500 512MB.

My rumor also says it will cost $2000 a piece.

That is for the PCI version.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

 

[flynnsk]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Well NV could introduce the new "Geforce 7800 GTX Ultra 512MB CherryPicked Edition" (550Mhz core 1400 mhz effective GDDR3) and sell them for say $1099.99 USD each.. not like they would be selling many at that price to worry about supply vs demand. (I cant imagine any demand for a $1000+ USD gaming card .. well other than some of the foaming at the mouth green gremlins that lurk the forums)

 

[Polish3d]

The Inq article says they tweaked the PCB and such to allow it to run faster

 

[CrystalBay]

It'll be interesting if this new part uses a tweaked nemory controller.

 

[lifeguard1999]

Back when AT reviewed the X1800XT, their conclusion said: "With its 512MB of onboard RAM, the X1800 XT scales especially well at high resolutions, but we would be very interested in seeing what a 512MB version of the 7800 GTX would be capable of doing. Maybe by the time the X1800 XT makes it to market we will have a 512MB 7800 GTX as well."

Now we get out chance to see...

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Morph, you might as well quit. There aren't many days left you'll be able to say these things and not have people laugh.

I wouldn't lie to anyone, even you, and I honestly posted this help you guys make the right choice.

The ATI vs nVidia game is over, it's basically time for people to decide which flavor of 7800GTX they want if they're buying this year.

 

[M0RPH]

Excuse me if I don't just take your word for it, Rollo. I'll wait for the actual product announcements and reviews.

 

[lifeguard1999]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Morph, you might as well quit. There aren't many days left you'll be able to say these things and not have people laugh.

I wouldn't lie to anyone, even you, and I honestly posted this help you guys make the right choice.

The ATI vs nVidia game is over, it's basically time for people to decide which flavor of 7800GTX they want if they're buying this year.

I wouldn't go that far. ATI could release a x1800XT-PE after all...

 

[GZFant]

what is NDA? Sorry for the ignorance

 

[lifeguard1999]

Non Disclosure Agreement.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Nvidia/TSMC has had well over 6 months to refine the process in which G70's are made. I would think they are quite capable of creating better and higher yields by now. So, there are a lot of cherries on this particular tree in the cherry grove.
You can't say that I don't know this for a fact any more than you can say they are cherry picked. You don't know, I don't know. But mine makes a little more sense.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo
The ATI vs nVidia game is over, it's basically time for people to decide which flavor of 7800GTX they want if they're buying this year.

:roll:

 

[lifeguard1999]

Competition, you gotta love it. Drive down those prices!!!

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel
Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Nvidia/TSMC has had well over 6 months to refine the process in which G70's are made. I would think they are quite capable of creating better and higher yields by now. So, there are a lot of cherries on this particular tree in the cherry grove.
You can't say that I don't know this for a fact any more than you can say they are cherry picked. You don't know, I don't know. But mine makes a little more sense.

By your logic, we should have 5GHz P4s by now, since Intel has had years to refine their manufacturing processes. :disgust: It doesn't always work that way.

Look: nobody outside of NVIDIA and TSMC really knows what their yields are like. NVIDIA may be able to produce a fair number of 7800GTX cores that will do 550Mhz without a problem on air cooling. They might not. They might just be putting out these numbers to blunt the news of the X1800XT launch, and then in a month a handful of 550/1800 cards show up priced at $800. I have no idea. Rollo's supposed under-NDA info notwithstanding, until the cards are in someone's hands outside of NVIDIA, it's all speculation.

Clearly, they are capable of producing at least *some* 550Mhz G70 cores (since that's what they're selling in the Quadro 4500, albeit at ~$2K). That's about all you can say right now.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel
Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Nvidia/TSMC has had well over 6 months to refine the process in which G70's are made. I would think they are quite capable of creating better and higher yields by now. So, there are a lot of cherries on this particular tree in the cherry grove.
You can't say that I don't know this for a fact any more than you can say they are cherry picked. You don't know, I don't know. But mine makes a little more sense.

By your logic, we should have 5GHz P4s by now, since Intel has had years to refine their manufacturing processes. :disgust: It doesn't always work that way.

Look: nobody outside of NVIDIA and TSMC really knows what their yields are like. NVIDIA may be able to produce a fair number of 7800GTX cores that will do 550Mhz without a problem on air cooling. They might not. They might just be putting out these numbers to blunt the news of the X1800XT launch, and then in a month a handful of 550/1800 cards show up priced at $800. I have no idea. Rollo's supposed under-NDA info notwithstanding, until the cards are in someone's hands outside of NVIDIA, it's all speculation.

Clearly, they are capable of producing at least *some* 550Mhz G70 cores (since that's what they're selling in the Quadro 4500, albeit at ~$2K). That's about all you can say right now.

Just Like you said nobody knows, But the fact that there is a G70 at 550 being sold by Nvidia, and that several manufacturers are selling the G70 at nearly 500 as it stands, then it isn't hard to see NVidia tweaking it out to reach 550 with better yields 6 months after it is released. Not the same thing but anyone remember the Thuoroughbred revisions, the first one could only hit maybe 200MHZ more then the Palmino then they released the B revision and it jumped up 400-600MHz more. You take a core that they are hitting that speed enough to sell a chip at that speed (even if at a high cost with little demand), and I wonder why anyone can doubt that with some tweaking they can't up the yields on it.

 

[M0RPH]

Well said, Matthias.

 

[Sentry2]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: Topweasel


Like the 32 pipe R520...... Those numbers make me drool though, The G70 already runs at 550 in the Quadro so the big thing is whether the memory speed is accurate.

Yeah but those chips are the result of extreme cherry-picking. Which isn't too difficult because the number of Quadros sold is relatively miniscule.

Morph, you might as well quit. There aren't many days left you'll be able to say these things and not have people laugh.

I wouldn't lie to anyone, even you, and I honestly posted this help you guys make the right choice.

The ATI vs nVidia game is over, it's basically time for people to decide which flavor of 7800GTX they want if they're buying this year.

The right choice is 2x512MB GTX's in SLI

 

[akugami]

Will this card include hi definition video encoding. Specifically H.264 and Divx6 as I will not be encoding video in HD WMV. If not, I'll wait to see which is better, the R580 or the G71/G72. I would have waited for the X1800XT if ATI had lived up to their video encoding/decoding promise but alas it was not to be.

I'm perfectly happy with the performance of my X800. I get very playable framerates in the games I do play and on my Dell 2001FPW. Granted not with all the bells and whistles on. I've never been one to fall under the trap of having to run every single game with all the bells and whistles on. When you fall into that trap you might as well sign away your paychecks to nVidia and ATI.

At this point and seeing how the current games are, I need to think about features other than pure frame rates for my next video card purchase. ATI, nVidia, make me want to buy your cards. Please. I have the money, however, I just don't feel that at this point it makes sense for me to fork over five benjamins for your products.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo
The ATI vs nVidia game is over, it's basically time for people to decide which flavor of 7800GTX they want if they're buying this year.

:roll:

He could well be right you know.

 

[slash196]

If that story on the Inq is correct (550/1800), that's the last word in video card performance.

 

[Gstanfor]

Please, don't rely on what the inquirer has to say. Funny how their story didn't break until well after Rollo provided us with the details, and they provided no more info than he did if you read the article carefully.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Please, don't rely on what the inquirer has to say. Funny how their story didn't break until well after Rollo provided us with the details, and they provided no more info than he did if you read the article carefully.

That would be hilarious- if somewhere in the world some guy reads my post, and spins up an article around that and the HKEPC article.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Please, don't rely on what the inquirer has to say. Funny how their story didn't break until well after Rollo provided us with the details, and they provided no more info than he did if you read the article carefully.

That would be hilarious- if somewhere in the world some guy reads my post, and spins up an article around that and the HKEPC article.

I wouldn't put it past the Inquirer to do that

 

[wanderer27]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Please, don't rely on what the inquirer has to say. Funny how their story didn't break until well after Rollo provided us with the details, and they provided no more info than he did if you read the article carefully.

Actually, I've saw those same numbers on the 'Net a couple of days ago - wish I could remember where . . . .

In all likelihood, the Inquirer was just re-hashing that story.