52C Too hot?

skygod99

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Hey guys,

I have a 3200 Venice core with 7700 Zalman, and I am getting 52-53C (sometimes shhots up to 56) on load and about 39-43 idle... Running Epox 9NPA-Ultra, x800xl, 2 gig xms..

I have a lian li 65 case with 4 fans on high.. Should I re-mount my hsf? Is the temp innaccurate?

Info / advice plz


--Am using AS-5, and have updated bios to latest version..
 

n7

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Jan 4, 2004
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Very interesting.

I have an MSI K8N Neo2 + Venice + Zalman 7000, & it reports as running at 58C under Prime95 load, which i find ridiculous, since when i touch the heatsink (even the bottom part), it's not even warm, or it's barely lukewarm.

I am gonna assume you are having the same trouble as me where your temps are not being reported correctly.

Though it didn't work for me, you can always try reseating the HSF if you don't think you did it correctly initially.
 

RichUK

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where are you rerading the temps from? .. try speed fan if you are not .. some times the crapy mobo diode reports way off readings in the BIOS like mine .. i would say the temps at the moment are to high for what they should be, but not critical ... you may want to try reseating the the HSF .. but i can't see it making much difference .. unless you really have fubbared the seating like putting it upside down..
 

AlucardX

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i've been reading forums like this for many years now (mostly ars, sorry guys) and enthusiasts always go nuts over their tempertures and proper cooling.. i dont blame you seeing as how much money we invest into our machines, however don't worry so much about temps. I've been running cpu's in the high 50's and low-mid 60's for years without any problems. So dont be afraid to crank that thing up. Once you get into high 60's and low 70's then you need to rethink your overclocking and cooling setup.

 

The Pentium Guy

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WOAH!
Joined: " 05/20/2000" but "Posts: 29" (AlucardX). Seems like you've been here for a while .

Back on topic: Yeah 52C isn't that much to worry about on load. You're good to go

Edit: If you're really worried, reapply your AS5
-TPG
 

Jeff7181

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Give the thermal compound some time to settle in too. Mine was running over 40C idle when I first installed it... a week or so later idle temps were 32-34 and they've remained that way since.
 

Koyanisquatsi

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i tend to agree that it's probably your motherboard reporting it incorrectly. seems to me if temps were to the point of being dangerous you'd see stability problems . my board reports load of 68c when running prime95 sfft. that scared me at first but since i never have any stability issues i've learned to ignore my temps.
 

Valkerie

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if you know you've applied a thermal compound and your case receives proper cooling inside, then you might want to double check hardware/software. Even if it's false readings, ignoring it may further damage your system.
 

paadness

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Now who said his ZALMAN doesnt even get warm and repots 58 C.

WTF? If ur heatsink gets warm, it means its conducting heat. If its not even luke warm, ur contact is poor and that is why ur getting 58 C. (noobster)

My A64 3000+ 2 GHz 40-42 idle max : 53-55 and the heatsink does feel warm.

For experiment i increased .25 Volts without OC for fun and my temp shoot upto to 60+.

 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
WOAH!
Joined: " 05/20/2000" but "Posts: 29" (AlucardX). Seems like you've been here for a while .

Back on topic: Yeah 52C isn't that much to worry about on load. You're good to go

Edit: If you're really worried, reapply your AS5
-TPG

Average Posts Per Day: 0.02

Anyways I think 52 is fine
 

exar333

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Feb 7, 2004
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id say freak out spend a grand on a vapochill system..."just to be sure" haha

j/k...reseat the AS5...check the temps...maybe a BIOS update is needed? sometimes those temps are a little buggy...

just my 2 cents
 

PsYcHoCoW

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My Venice 3200+ hasn't gone higher than 35 degrees, the most I've had it do is superpi 27 minutes though. I'm using the stock cooling apparel. I'm overclocking 200MHz [+20MHz x10] right now, stock voltage... I bought an XP120 thinking I'd need that to keep my system silent, but the cpu is so cool and quiet already that I don't think I'd see a difference if I installed the xp120. I think either your heatsink is not well seated or the temperatures are just wrong..
 

Yossairian

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Originally posted by: n7
Very interesting.

I have an MSI K8N Neo2 + Venice + Zalman 7000, & it reports as running at 58C under Prime95 load, which i find ridiculous, since when i touch the heatsink (even the bottom part), it's not even warm, or it's barely lukewarm.

I am gonna assume you are having the same trouble as me where your temps are not being reported correctly.

What BIOS are you running ? I was getting similar temps on that board @ REV 1.4, but after updating to 1.8 it now never reports over 40C
 

CHOPPER GOD

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Venice 3200 @ 2.5 here with xp-90c (Its BEAUTIFUL btw) 32c idle 36 after gaming and 41c during prime95. I touch the fins of my HS and It is almost cold feeling maybe Lukewarm at most. I used AS5 here and my bedroom tempuratue is 79-80F (Arizona) I guess don;t worry about it. I've installed 3rd party temp monitoring and My alarm instantly went off and said 120c LOL and shut down my system LOL..I uninstalled it and use the Bios to check temp and its fine. It's easy to obsess with temps anyway..I start getting mad when i Break 40c when just a few months ago, I would have given anything to HAVE 40 degrees.if it really gets to hot, your chip fries and comp turns off...no biggy lol
 

peleejosh

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fins on xp-90 will not get very warm. All of the heat is usualy dissipated in the heatpipes.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Yossairian
Originally posted by: n7
Very interesting.

I have an MSI K8N Neo2 + Venice + Zalman 7000, & it reports as running at 58C under Prime95 load, which i find ridiculous, since when i touch the heatsink (even the bottom part), it's not even warm, or it's barely lukewarm.

I am gonna assume you are having the same trouble as me where your temps are not being reported correctly.

What BIOS are you running ? I was getting similar temps on that board @ REV 1.4, but after updating to 1.8 it now never reports over 40C

I'm running the mod 1.8 bios.

I at first thought i had somehow possibly poorly seated the HSF, so i reseated it a second time, & it's still running way too hot to be accurate IMO.

I don't worry about it too much really, but it does bug me.

 

fstime

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Winchester's max die was 75C.

I assume the Venice's is somewhere near that too.
 

AlucardX

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yea like i said i mostly read Arstechnica on a somewhat regular basis.. i've just been visiting here this week while at work to kill some time, no offense everyone

anyways, again.. try not to be too paranoid about temps, most people go way overboard about it. feel free to keep tweaking away at it till you get a comfortable overclock thats stable. worry about stability, not temperature. These devices are made to run really hot.

if anything.. imo, i'm more concerned about my harddrive temperature so i make sure to have a hd fan on my Raptor.
 

skygod99

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Ok guys, I reapplied the HSF (AS5), and it idles around 37-40, and load 48-52. But I still have to wait for the as5 to "set" maybe they will drop some.. We'll see

Another note tho: I used a digital thermometer and manually measured the temps myslef. I stuck the meter as close to the cpu as i could and i kept gettting temps around 92F. If that the "true" temp? Will the temp be higher under the hsf, or is there a better place to check the temp? OR is my reading correct? If my reading is correct then it seems my BIOS is about 4 degrees off..

Oh, im using EPOX 9NPA+Utlra (latest BIOS)..

Thanks for the replies, and lemme know what else you think of my recent results
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: skygod99
Ok guys, I reapplied the HSF (AS5), and it idles around 37-40, and load 48-52. But I still have to wait for the as5 to "set" maybe they will drop some.. We'll see

Another note tho: I used a digital thermometer and manually measured the temps myslef. I stuck the meter as close to the cpu as i could and i kept gettting temps around 92F. If that the "true" temp? Will the temp be higher under the hsf, or is there a better place to check the temp? OR is my reading correct? If my reading is correct then it seems my BIOS is about 4 degrees off..

Oh, im using EPOX 9NPA+Utlra (latest BIOS)..

Thanks for the replies, and lemme know what else you think of my recent results

problem solved

 

pulsedrive

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Originally posted by: skygod99
Ok guys, I reapplied the HSF (AS5), and it idles around 37-40, and load 48-52. But I still have to wait for the as5 to "set" maybe they will drop some.. We'll see

Another note tho: I used a digital thermometer and manually measured the temps myslef. I stuck the meter as close to the cpu as i could and i kept gettting temps around 92F. If that the "true" temp? Will the temp be higher under the hsf, or is there a better place to check the temp? OR is my reading correct? If my reading is correct then it seems my BIOS is about 4 degrees off..

Oh, im using EPOX 9NPA+Utlra (latest BIOS)..

Thanks for the replies, and lemme know what else you think of my recent results

actually that indicates that your bios temps are about right. Because the temp the bios is meaureing the the temp directly above the core. So anythign you meaure externally is oging to be a little bit cooler. You are running at almost identical temps to my machine when I first put it together, my temps have dropped about 3C under load now. Used to max out about 50-51, now it is about 45-47. So a good bit of a drop from AS5 setlling in.
 

furballi

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Also see 50-51C with new AS. 48-49C after about two weeks. Winchester 3000 at 2250 MHz core speed. Vcore is 1.425V.

You're 100% safe up to about 55C.
 
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