See.. This guy gets it.. Amen brosive.. Giving a shout out from the Triangle to the Triad!!
Not entering into the GPU argument, certainly the 670 is impressive performance wise, no denying that.
However, anyone who spends 500$+ for 1080p is out of their mind. Even 400$ for 1080p is ridiculous. If I played 1080p I would get a GTX 560ti 448 or 7850 and call it a day. In fact, I am in utter disbelief when I see peoples sigs with 680 sli and yet they run a 23" wal mart el crapo TN panel. That is ridiculous.
What you spend on your GPU's = what you spend on your display. IMO. Thats what the 680, 7970, 690, etc so on and so forth are for - surround and super high resolution. Anyone spending 500$ on a gpu and 200$ on a crap TN 23 incher is crazy...IMO
Not entering into the GPU argument, certainly the 670 is impressive performance wise, no denying that.
However, anyone who spends 500$+ for 1080p is out of their mind. Even 400$ for 1080p is ridiculous. If I played 1080p I would get a GTX 560ti 448 or 7850 and call it a day. In fact, I am in utter disbelief when I see peoples sigs with 680 sli and yet they run a 23" wal mart el crapo TN panel. That is ridiculous.
What you spend on your GPU's = what you spend on your display. IMO. Thats what the 680, 7970, 690, etc so on and so forth are for - surround and super high resolution. Anyone spending 500$ on a gpu and 200$ on a crap TN 23 incher is crazy...IMO
Because not everybody plays at stock. If you overclock, it is worth that $50 extra. If you don't oc, then it isn't. It comes down to a personal preference. But 7970 OC is still faster. So at the same price the 670 is a worse card. At $50 difference, they are about equal value, due to more performance plus VRAM/future proofing. At $480, 7970 is a little bit expensive but then so is 680 at $500.
10% more cost for 10% better performance once you overclock. It is justified. And you get 3gb VRAM free with it
This thread started as "670 reviews are up" but is morphing out of control.
No one ever wants to admit "their" card lost or whatever. The 680, 670, 7970 and 7950 are all fine cards.
If you already own one of these cards, I dont see any point in trading up/down/sideways.
Having done it, the only trade that actually was of merit was selling GTX 680 for 5 less than I paid and getting a 450 7970 after rebates. The coil whine meant I couldnt stand them despite the better value for money they were over the GTX 680 though.
Decided to return one and sold the other. Lost about 40 dollars in that... No working pc for the past 2 weeks until now. Just ordered the GTX 670. At 400 it is the cheapest (next to reference 7950s) and best value for money to me.
This thread started as "670 reviews are up" but is morphing out of control.
Nvidia probably can't produce many more 680s, hence a 670 release
You must be new here...tread carefully.
Vary nice performance. AMD needs to bring the 7970 down to $399 as the stock 670 beats up on the stock 7970. Now AMD give the little boys back their lunchmoney being 1st out of gate does not a winner make.
10% more cost for 10% better performance once you overclock. It is justified. And you get 3gb VRAM free with it
A 7970 at 1100mhz will be as fast as a custom 680. If custom 680s are $550ish or whatever, why shouldn't 7970 1100 get that luxury, esp with same performance and more VRAM?
Nvidia probably can't produce many more 680s, hence a 670 release
STOCK VS STOCK 1080p
BF3 TIE, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/9.html
SC2 TIE
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/20.html
Skyrim TIE
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/22.html
Dirt 3, irrelevant when FPS > 120
batman, 10% faster at stock but not faster when oced, besides same experience same settings
Portal 2, so high that it is irrelevant.
None of the games you pointed favors the 670 even at stock, except Batman which is not even noticeable.
And once both are overclocked, The tie is converted into a 10%+ lead for 7970.
If the 7970 becomes $450, then 670 will face very stiff competition at $400, and might want to reduce pricing a bit further to be truly VFM. But at $480 7970 is okay but difficult to sell.
Regarding 7950 I agree,but 7970 is still a faster card than 670.
At higher resolutions the 7970 will start to win, which is why AMD PR is desperately trying to get people to bench games at 2560x1600 instead of 1920x1080, when comparing the 670 to the 7970. (Good luck AMD, I have a feeling you already lost that battle.)
Exactly. Almost 30% of Steam users have 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitors as the combined group. Right now for 1080P, GTX670 OC is ~ HD7970, and in fact slightly faster in more popular SKYRIM, BF3, but costs $100 less.
Here is another way to look at it: 2x GTX670 OC will be $800 vs. $1000 for 7970 CF. That's $200 savings for 95% of the performance. AMD had the right idea when cards like the Sapphire HD7970 Dual-X dropped to $450. Right now that card creeped up to $480.
A stock 670 beats the 7970 is most important games such as BF3, Skyrim, and SCII at 1080p as per the anandtech review. Also, Crossfire is broken for a lot of games says HardOCP. So I would venture to guess 2x670's would actually scale better making them faster than 2x7970.
A stock 670 beats the 7970 is most important games such as BF3, Skyrim, and SCII at 1080p as per the anandtech review. Also, Crossfire is broken for a lot of games says HardOCP. So I would venture to guess 2x670's would actually scale better making them faster than 2x7970.