Originally posted by: Greenman
Are they really that much slower than a 939? The prices almost can't be beat.
Originally posted by: Greenman
Are they really that much slower than a 939? The prices almost can't be beat.
Originally posted by: n7
s754 = great for a value system..escept for one thing: AGP.
No dual channel RAM doesn't really matter that much.
Less overclockability isn't the end of the world.
No X2 compatibility is fine unless you need one.
But no PCI-e means no high really end gaming, longterm anyway.
If you aren't a hardcore gamer, or you are happy running games at lower resolutions for the next few years, s754 would be fine.
Originally posted by: n7
Isn't that a crippled PCI-e slot though?
Or are they fine?
LoL! I know exactly what you mean. All 3 of my kids need computers, and I plan to go all out for them. Turion lappies will be what they get.Originally posted by: Greenman
Thanks for the answers. Looks like I should just get over being cheap and buy 939.
It's odd, if this was something my kids needed for school I wouldn't think twice about droping 3 grand on it, but when it's a toy for me my wallet rusts up.
Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Are there any good Socket 754 NF4 boards for overclocking?
Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Are there any good Socket 754 NF4 boards for overclocking?
Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
No dual-channel=Sluggish City USA
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
No dual-channel=Sluggish City USA
Uhhh...no it doesn't. The absence of dual channel makes very little difference.
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: charloscarlies
Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
No dual-channel=Sluggish City USA
Uhhh...no it doesn't. The absence of dual channel makes very little difference.
You are correct, it doesn't unless you are running a Netburst chip...then it makes a HUGE difference. But the 754 chips are quite good (even for gaming), they just aren't the best and you can't upgrade to dual core.
Yes you can. I've recommended both platforms dependent on intended use and budget. Really funny, yet sad to see people blindly insist on socket 939. Example I pulled out of thin air:Originally posted by: n7
S754 is more alive than i realized...
You can pretty much justify both platforms
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: Hacp
Heh 2800+ sempron
Nice 754 ocing mobo with pci-e
GTO squared
Equals- Value budget system that roxs.
DFI makes the Infinity series, socket 754 NF4 chipset with overclocking nearly as good as the LANPARTY series (just lacking the extreme memory voltages and such).Originally posted by: Jeeper94
DFI LANPARTY UT nF3 250GbOriginally posted by: DrMrLordX
Are there any good Socket 754 NF4 boards for overclocking?
Edit: my bad, I just realized you said NF4. I'm not up to speed on S754 NF4 boards.
Only if you live or die by Sandra memory benchmarks.Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
No dual-channel=Sluggish City USA
Well, benchmark junky I can understand. Gamer? WTF dude? Gaming is all about the video card. I'm willing to wager that USING THE SAME VIDEO CARD for all intents and purposes of gaming a socket 754 system will perform as well as a socket 939 system for less money.Originally posted by: Shenkoa
there is absolutely nothing wrong with socket 754 AMD64 proc's... if your on a budjet and arent a gamer or benchmark junky then you will be fine.
Originally posted by: Hacp
Heh 2800+ sempron
Nice 754 ocing mobo with pci-e
GTO squared
Equals- Value budget system that roxs.
Originally posted by: Zap
Yes you can. I've recommended both platforms dependent on intended use and budget. Really funny, yet sad to see people blindly insist on socket 939. Example I pulled out of thin air:Originally posted by: n7
S754 is more alive than i realized...
You can pretty much justify both platforms
NOOB: My mom has a Celeron 900MHz that died. I need a replacement board/CPU/RAM for under $200 shipped. All she does is browse internet and send emails and will use this system as is until it dies again. Any suggestions? I was thinking of a cheap socket 754 board with integrated video, 512MB RAM and a Sempron.
LEET HARDWARE SNOB: Socket 754 suxors!!! Get a socket 939 - make sure you get an Nforce4 chipset.
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: Hacp
Heh 2800+ sempron
Nice 754 ocing mobo with pci-e
GTO squared
Equals- Value budget system that roxs.
There are a lot of budget options in socket 754-land. Sempron 2500+ can be had for just over $50. Some A64 are still available with more cache and higher multipliers - $129 for 3400+ A64 that runs at 2.4GHz which will outperform a socket 939 3500+ in everything except memory benchmarks. $162 for a 3700+ is also a reasonable value.
Cheap CPUs with $60-or-cheaper Nforce3 overclocking-friendly motherboards plus a $125 Geforce 6800LE (overclocked and pipe-unlocked for near GT performance) will also make a rocking uber-budget gamer.
DFI makes the Infinity series, socket 754 NF4 chipset with overclocking nearly as good as the LANPARTY series (just lacking the extreme memory voltages and such).Originally posted by: Jeeper94
DFI LANPARTY UT nF3 250GbOriginally posted by: DrMrLordX
Are there any good Socket 754 NF4 boards for overclocking?
Edit: my bad, I just realized you said NF4. I'm not up to speed on S754 NF4 boards.
Only if you live or die by Sandra memory benchmarks.Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
No dual-channel=Sluggish City USA
Well, benchmark junky I can understand. Gamer? WTF dude? Gaming is all about the video card. I'm willing to wager that USING THE SAME VIDEO CARD for all intents and purposes of gaming a socket 754 system will perform as well as a socket 939 system for less money.Originally posted by: Shenkoa
there is absolutely nothing wrong with socket 754 AMD64 proc's... if your on a budjet and arent a gamer or benchmark junky then you will be fine.
Video card will be the same/cost the same for whatever card such as 7800GT
Motherboard... overall socket 939 boards tend to cost more, but there are some budget ones. Foxconn makes Nforce4-4X boards in both socket types within about $2 of each other, so let's say they are the same.
CPU... socket 939 3500+ (512k cache, 2.2GHz) is $191. Socket 754 3700+ (1MB cache, 2.4GHz) is $162.
If you compare them unoverclocked and regardless of being "future proof" (which is silly with socket M2 coming out, unless you have that Asrock 939SATA2 board) which platform will score higher in gaming benchmarks? Well, they should be the same since they have the same video card, but the socket 754 is $30 cheaper. Which will score higher in all other benchmarks except memory intensive? The socket 754, at $30 less.
"Future proof?" Socket M2 is coming out, plus many people upgrade motherboards when they upgrade CPUs.
Overclockability? That's the wildcard. It isn't unknown for Venice chips to hit 2.7GHz, but "guaranteed" is more like 2.5GHz. Earlier Newcastles were mostly good for 2.3-2.4GHz, but more recent ones can hit 2.6GHz+ without too much problem. The cheaper Sempron chips should overclock really well except they are limited by their low multiplier.