7600GT and 7600GS

[ChonChon]

rogue makes a very nice point there, and it seems to work great.

maxspeed: compare which one to the 7800GS? firstly, the 7600GT is also GDDR3 memory, and secondly, its PCIe and 7800GS is AGP.

i believe the 76GT reigns a little supreme over the 78GS...any thoughts?

 

[Cookie Monster]

The 7800GS has 16 pixel shaders 16 TMUs 8VS 8ROPs and 256bit.
The 7600GT has 12 pixel shaders 12 TMUs 5VS 8ROPs and 128bit.

You do the math.

 

[Sonikku]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
wow thats quite a difference. the 7600GS just reminds me of the 7800GS, but even lower clocked and "idiofied" for AGP users. how dare they give us crappy cards for us agpers and leave all the higher end stuff to pcie? stupid really...

Brilliant, actually. By forcing a new un-necessary slot on us through pricing and options for new video cards, Nvidia is able to sell more Nvidia made Nforce 4 motherboards. Video cards are not the only thing they deal in you know...

 

[bunker]

Hmmm...guess it's time to see if I can do an evga trade up from my 6800GS....

 

[hans007]

well 7600gs is a good low midrange card. it is approximately as fast as a 6800 non ultra.

i think the official clocks are actually 400/800 and the GT has something lik e550/1300 though there are O/C versions with 600/1500 or something from evga/bfg/xfx and the like.

 

[ChonChon]

yea, these that i have posted are all factory OCed by the distributors (a.k.a. XFX, BFG, eVGA, and so on) -- the official clocks are diff.

basically, what i like, is that nVidia is bringing the 7 series killers into an area where ALL their consumers can have access to them -- CHEERS TO THEM!

 

[Avalon]

I saw an eVGA 7600GS for sale at newegg for $99AR, which is incredibe considering it was a 550/850 clocked version. Practically the same fill rate as the GT, just lacking nearly half the mem bandwidth. I don't know how far those GDDR2 modules can OC, but heck...for $99, just tone down the AA/AF so you aren't putting a hurting on the memory. Stupidly fast card for the price.

*Edit*
$109...

And there's an MSI 7600GT for $154 AR + $4 ship. Nice.

 

[ChonChon]

wow avalon, some very sexy finds -- very sexy indeed!!!

 

[MechaSheeba]

Originally posted by: Avalon
I saw an eVGA 7600GS for sale at newegg for $99AR, which is incredibe considering it was a 550/850 clocked version. Practically the same fill rate as the GT, just lacking nearly half the mem bandwidth. I don't know how far those GDDR2 modules can OC, but heck...for $99, just tone down the AA/AF so you aren't putting a hurting on the memory. Stupidly fast card for the price.

*Edit*
$109...

And there's an MSI 7600GT for $154 AR + $4 ship. Nice.

Nobody buy this card, it's a nightmare. Spend a little more and go with the XFX 7600gs or get a GT. See all the negative reviews on Newegg as well as this thread for more info. I made the mistake of buying this card and I was the first to leave a neg review for it to try and keep other people from getting screwed as well. I'm seriously pissed about this purchase and the company's lack of initiative to fix the problem. I'll never buy another Evga product again.

 

[ChonChon]

well, unfortunately, i did read this and im quite astonished. eVGA has always been a very good product, but looks like XFX to me from now on. their DLT warantee is more attractive anyhow

 

[ChonChon]

the thing is i know eVGA did a better job on working their cards before selling them (jazzing up the look, fan, speeds, w/e), but after seeing the XXX series, im COMPLETELY sold to XFX.

please, though, dont overlook BFG -- they are INSANE when it comes to taking care and simplicity of strength to their cards.

which is why i would only BFG or XFX (with eVGA being a former member of that group).

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
The 7800GS has 16 pixel shaders 16 TMUs 8VS 8ROPs and 256bit.
The 7600GT has 12 pixel shaders 12 TMUs 5VS 8ROPs and 128bit.

You do the math.

It doesn't exactly work that way, you need to factor in clockspeeds as well. A stock 7800 GS performs the same as a stock 7600 GT up to 16x12 4XAA + AF, which covers the majority of scenarios.

If you have a Dell 24 inch LCD for example a 7600 GT/7800 GS is not enough performance to drive the LCD at it's native resolution.

 

[ChonChon]

that is true as well. you will need to experience gaming a little "larger" then regular computer use.

however, there is a way to go up to the full resolution with some quality loss, isn't there. that, of course if possible, would be a personal choice. i would live with the 1600x**** (w/e res is) and enjoy the quality...

 

[Ichigo]

1. I don't get the point of this post. In the US (I'm in Canada), the GT is $70 more. I would expect it to perform better than a GS. How does your argument have any grounds when I can say a $70 upgrade from the 7600GT to a 7900GT is viable too. The performance gap is even greater.
2. How does a 128-bit memory interface not affect performance? You can't just say that. It has to be in relation to something else. If the 7600GT were 256-bit, it would be a lot faster, no doubt.

 

[tishoo]

Good discussion

I'm always behind the price/perf curve, but I needed a good card to upscale video to my 1080P 42" TV MORE than I needed a good gaming card. My Awful Radeon X300SE PCIe wasn't cutting it! Heck, ATI's drivers are so awful, it would often be unable to detect my TV as the second monitor without multiple reboots/reinstalls. Picked up a BFG 7600GT OC --- super stable, nice fan speed variation (only loud when I'm doing something graphically intensive - video upscaling or screensavers for now!)

Under 150 all said & done, locally. Yeah, so I patronized Worst Buy, but I didn't want to deal with rebates/shipping to save only $10 or so. It's amazing how long the price on these has stabilized at the 140-160 range. I just know that it'll drop next week or something

 

[Dr J]

Both the 7600GS and GT are available in AGP:

http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-7600-GS-AGP-card-434.html

http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-7600-GT-AGP-card-435.html

and, from what I understand, EVGA will soon also be releasing a 7600GT AGP.

I've looked at these cards, and from what I can see, they can't compare to an ATI X800XL or even Pro.

John

 

[ChonChon]

hmm...

i'm really surprised to see you say that they cant compare to those cards. im sure that they probably can beat the performance of the 800s...

 

[Dr J]

I'm not sure that they can. Check out www.gpureview.com and compare them for yourself.

ATI had an awesome deal on an X850 Pro, which, with a bios upgrade, will covert to an X850 XT PE and unbelievably, I managed to get in before they pulled the ad. Given it was only $119.00, I couldn't pass it up and I'm sure will be fine for my purposes.

My current system is AGP only, yet very stable and fast. This 850 series is the last of the dedicated AGP cards, which do not require the conversion chip from the PCI format.

I'm sure the 7600's would be fine, too, although the score card, according to gpreview, so far, is not stellar.

John

 

[ss284]

Another brand to consider is the gigabyte 7600GT with silent pipe2. Its a pretty nice card for the price, and it overclocks pretty well considering the silence. It does get pretty hot, but nothing over 85C in a decently ventilated case.

Its only about 150-160, which is the same price the others are going for. No major stock OC like the others, but pure silence.

-Steve

 

[mobutu]

evga 7600gs uses DDR2
evga 7600gt uses DDR3
the difference in memory speed is pretty self-explanatory.

Leadtek has both products in AGP form. Check their site.

And in Europe is on sale the only card I know with 7600GS and DDR3 from Gainward
Is practically an 7600GT on disguise at a very good price (~115 EURO)
SKU: 471846200-7791
http://www.gainward.net/products/product.php?products_id=47
cheers

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Dr J
Both the 7600GS and GT are available in AGP:

http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-7600-GS-AGP-card-434.html

http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-7600-GT-AGP-card-435.html

and, from what I understand, EVGA will soon also be releasing a 7600GT AGP.

I've looked at these cards, and from what I can see, they can't compare to an ATI X800XL or even Pro.

John

I have both an x800pro and a 7600gt. The gt is without a doubt the faster card.

 

[ChonChon]

point proven by Pickins...

 

[tishoo]

And in any case, the curent generation (Radeon X1xxx and nVidia 7xxx) have WAY better video scaling/smoothing/rendering capabilities. When i say video, I mean video, not graphics. MPEG2, WMV etc!

For anyone using these in a HT setting, they're VASTLY superior to, say, the X800 and nVidia 6600 etc!