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[jose]

Thugsrook & Oldfart:

Have you tried 2 sticks of memory ? Are your systems still stable ?
I'm trying to decide between the P4b266-C & the EPOX 4BDA, I
need 1 gig of ram.

Thanks for the info
Jose

 

[Jwyatt]

The asus board has 3 slots for ram the epox only has 2. The intel chipset is designed around 2 slots though. Thats why you see some manufacturers putting only 2 in there. Oldfart is a beliver in the epox and thug is in the asus. So thats going to answer that question , but well let them tell you.

I think im going to try the epox myself. The asus and gigabyte mb using the 845 chipset wont out do my msi 845 board. Guess im going to continue buying the damn things till i get one to my likings!

 

[oldfart]

I like both boards. I think the Epox has some additional overclocking features over the ASUS, but both are proven to be very good boards. I haven't tried both mem slots. I run 1 512 meg stick. I have another 4BDA/1.6A/Samsung PC2700 512 meg setup ordered for a friend. When it gets here (late in the week, I'll see if I can get some time to put the other stick in my machine and see how it does.

 

[Camma]

hey thugs... since you've got plenty of experience with this board and the p4s333... which would you recommend, overall?

Camma

 

[jose]

Thanks Oldfart, waiting to hear from you.

Regards,
Jose

 

[JTKGY]

Thugsrook,

What's your voltage reading from asus probe at idel and during load??
I'm interested particularly the vcore and the 12v...
(Asus probe 2.16.02+?? anyways, the newest one from de site)

Mine is really strange...
(Other post http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=780126)
12v always read below 12 like 11.9 to 11.7...
and
vcore always slightly above.... I couldn't run stable for more than 150fsb... I'm wondering
if is the PSU.. (Antec 300W pp303xp)
If so, any recommendation on a good oc psu??

 

[THUGSROOK]

SupermanCK messing with that setting (sdram idle timer) only slowed it down - i left it on "infinate".

jose i only use 1 stick of memory.

Jwyatt i havent tried an epox - but if it couldnt bootme @ 175fsb i would say it sux at this point
i value oldfarts opinion tho - and if he says the board is good, i believe him
i like the asus P4B boards.

Camma for systems under 141fsb i recommend the P4S333/533. (only cause the 533 is yet to be proven over 160fsb)
for systems over 142fsb i suggest the P4B266.

JTKGY i personally think this is a PSU limitation tho and ill be getting a 550W PSU to find out.
vcore = 1.66 - 1.74v
11.45 - 11.90v
5.10 - 5.13v
3.36 - 3.28v

 

[Camma]

drat... must buy p4b266... anyone wanna buy a p4s333?

 

[Bozo Galora]

no way your temps are 35-40C at 2.8GHZ
impossible

 

[THUGSROOK]

Bozo Galora who are you addressing here? ...me?

 

[JTKGY]

<< no way your temps are 35-40C at 2.8GHZ
impossible >>



Mine runs 30-32 idle.. at 2.5Ghz and default voltage (from 1.6A Northwood using
Intel retail Heatsink)... after 15mins of full load it will jump to 38c
Temp reading comes from Asus PC Probe 2.16.04 (I think)

He's got a better heatsink than I do... so I do not see those temp readings
unreasonable.


Thugsrook, did you get the 550W PSU yet?.. I ordered my Enermax 431 FC last night..

 

[JTKGY]

Subscribe to thread..

 

[THUGSROOK]

my 550W Enermax PSU should be here by Thurs.
ill be installing it and reporting my comparison results (vs. 430W) asafp

 

[Nighthawk69]

Exxxxxcellent!

 

[THUGSROOK]

just for the sake of experimentation....

i am now running all 3 power plugs on my board :Q
PCprobe doesnt seem to be showing any improvements tho.

 

[Occifer]

<< Camma for systems under 141fsb i recommend the P4S333/533. (only cause the 533 is yet to be proven over 160fsb) >>



But for a future proof board that is still a decent overclocker the p4s533 would be a good option? Or should I go with Rambus?

*money burning hole in pocket*

Already ordered a case so I am itching to get the rest

 

[THUGSROOK]

HighTechRedneck heres my quick history for you.....
P4 1.6A on a P4S333 went 2320mhz/145fsb.
that very same chip on a P4B266-C is running 2736mhz/171fsb right now as i type this.
it was 100% purely the P4S333's fault - im using all the same hardware.

i have heard of a few P4S533s running 150fsb, but thats about it.
now do you think I should go get a P4S533?

the SiS boards are better for the 1.8A+ CPUs and of course, non-overclockers.

 

[JTKGY]

<< HighTechRedneck heres my quick history for you.....
P4 1.6A on a P4S333 went 2320mhz/145fsb.
that very same chip on a P4B266-C is running 2736mhz/171fsb right now as i type this.
it was 100% purely the P4S333's fault - im using all the same hardware.

i have heard of a few P4S533s running 150fsb, but thats about it.
now do you think I should go get a P4S533?

the SiS boards are better for the 1.8A+ CPUs and of course, non-overclockers. >>



Yup.. my p4s533 board is running 150fsb, 4:5, 2-3-3-6-auto with all default voltage on
a 300W antec PSU... going to see if I can go higher with a better PSU...

 

[Occifer]

THUGSROOK I was thinking of the p4s533 so I could upgrade to a 533 fsb P4 when the prices drop lower than my whole paycheck

Also do you buy the boards without onboard features because they interfere with overclocking? PCI cards handle overclocks better than onboard devices? I have heard DDR 333 dosen't offer a huge performance boost over 266, but when you overclock you will get as good performance out of 266?

I'm not near as hardcore or as experienced as you but I wouldn't mind having a 1.6a running @ 2.4

 

[THUGSROOK]

HighTechRedneck i think all current "good" motherboards can already run the 133fsb "B" chips.
in my bios it says "manual, 1600mhz, or 2128mhz" - whats does that tell you? the SiS645 boards are the same way.
right now the P4 "B" cpus aint overclocking any better or worse then any of the P4 "A" cpus.
all the P4 northwoods seem to pretty much overclock to the same mhz. (give or take a few)
i do think onboard features "can" limit an overclock - that doesnt mean that they will tho.
check out this thread for more information on 266, 333, 400ddr. from a performance standpoint i would suggest running in the 300-400ddr range.
nothing wrong with a 1.6A @ 2.4ghz, if thats all ya want

 

[JTKGY]

Whats the difference between a 533 p4 and a overclocked 133fsb 400 p4???

 

[Occifer]

<< Yup.. my p4s533 board is running 150fsb, 4:5, 2-3-3-6-auto with all default voltage on >>



JTKGY Pretty good experience with that board? Just plug it all in and it works
None of that " I plugged all three power connectors and a car battery into my motherboard because I thought it needed more juice"

THUGSROOK thanks for the input! Good to know I have you around for when i foobar this system :Q
I'll let you guys know how it goes.

 

[THUGSROOK]

JTKGY about $400

seriously - not a damn thing.

 

[JTKGY]

<<

<< Yup.. my p4s533 board is running 150fsb, 4:5, 2-3-3-6-auto with all default voltage on >>



JTKGY Pretty good experience with that board? Just plug it all in and it works
None of that " I plugged all three power connectors and a car battery into my motherboard because I thought it needed more juice"
>>



That pretty much describes it... Asus P4S533 is my third P4 board... I had trouble maintain 140fsb with Gigabyte GA-8IRXP
(heard that there's bug patch for it) and Soyo P4S Dragon ultra though these two other boards both got way more features
than Asus...
For Asus, I just plug it in and run 150fsb all day with everything set to default.
(I have Corsair XMS PC2700 512MB, by the way)
The only difference between these things is that I added Arctic Silver 3 before installing onto
the Asus board.


Speaking of features on the board... Asus always has less features on board than other boards (though it still cost more)...
anyone here try compare the overclockability of two Asus board... one OEM (with no features) and one retail with all the
available options using the exact same CPU, memory and PSU??? I wonder how they compare.

 

[percboy]

Got the Abit BD7-R , locked PCI/AGP speeds.
Why dont ALL board makers (the ones who offer other overclocking features) include the ability to lock the PCI/AGP.
I returned a P4S533 for lack of PCI locking/dividers (and some of the "problem posts" here on AT).