7950gt vs x1950

[senatorblac]

Im having trouble picking between the two.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Hi, you need to give us more info about your situation.

What are you running in your pc? (please include cpu, psu, mobo, ram, etc..)

What monitor and what resolution are you planning on playing at?

-SZ

 

[Tig Ol Bitties]

I'm assuming you're talking about the X1950XTX??? If so, then that would be the better card. The 7950gt would perform somewhere in between a 7900GT and 7900GTX

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: Tig Ol Bitties
I'm assuming you're talking about the X1950XTX??? If so, then that would be the better card. The 7950gt would perform somewhere in between a 7900GT and 7900GTX

Your kidding right? x1950xtx and 7950gx2 would be on par with each other, with some wins here and other wins there, but in most cases I believe the gx2 would be the winner. Not to mention how much better the gx2 performs with overclocking.


-SZ



*edited for spelling

 

[Tig Ol Bitties]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369

Originally posted by: Tig Ol Bitties
I'm assuming you're talking about the X1950XTX??? If so, then that would be the better card. The 7950gt would perform somewhere in between a 7900GT and 7900GTX

Your kidding right?

I'm referring to the 7950 GT...not the 7950GX2

I know what I'm talking about...do you???

 

[morgash]

yeah tig is correct, dont worry about SpeedZealot, he just misread the post i suppose. the 7950gt is nothing new, its simply 7900gtx cores that were speed binned for not being able to run gtx speeds but they could run faster than 7900gt's. they then stuck 512mb o vram on it, clocked the ram up a good deal and called it a new card. the OC is nothing that isnt completely achievable with any 7900gt at stock voltages, the only diff being the extra vram. so in conclusion at stock the x1900xt is gonna be a good deal faster on shader heavy games and at higher resses with more eye candy.

Morgash

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Ohh my bad, that always gets me lol....

sorry about that tig.

-SZ

 

[Ike0069]

We need to wait and see at what price the 7950GT's are at before you make a decision.

I'm guessing EVGA will release a KO version of the 7950GT with possibly an improved cooling solution that will seriously approach 7900GTX speeds. Depending on the price, that may be the best deal available. Personally that's what I'm waiting for.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Lets take a look

x1950xtx will retail at 449$
7950GT will retail at 299$

First thing - Different price segments

X1900XT is already close to 250$ which means it will be its direct competitor and since its as good as a 7900 GTX, its a no brainer between that and a 7950 GT

Have a nice day

 

[Ike0069]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Lets take a look

x1950xtx will retail at 449$
7950GT will retail at 299$

First thing - Different price segments

X1900XT is already close to 250$ which means it will be its direct competitor and since its as good as a 7900 GTX, its a no brainer between that and a 7950 GT

Have a nice day

It's not quite $250, and that's only after huge ($100 -150) rebates which for me at least, completely negates the deal. And the 7900GTX is clearly overall faster than the XT, not by a huge amount, but faster none the less. The GTX competes more with the XTX.

Now if I can get a 7950GT that performs close to GTX performance (we know that there will be factory OC cards released that have increased performance over stock speeds) at or close to the same price as a 1900XT, then I'll take the 7950 simply because... IMO... the X1900's use too much power, run too hot, and are just too loud with stock cooling. For some this does not matter, while others it is a real concern. Yes, one can go with a aftermarket cooler on thier XT, but that ups the price and voids the warranty.

Also; EVGA, BFG, and XFX all have lifetime warranties where as only Powercoloer does for ATI cards, and Powercolor cards have a huge price premium for that extra warranty. I've never seen any retail Powercolor XT's for <$400.

So I'm not so sure this is as easy a decision as you make it seem. I agree that the X1900XT at <$300 is a great deal, but there are other factors to consider.

 

[JPB]

For price comparison, he could be also referring to the X1950 Pro

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Also; EVGA, BFG, and XFX all have lifetime warranties where as only Powercoloer does for ATI cards, and Powercolor cards have a huge price premium for that extra warranty. I've never seen any retail Powercolor XT's for <$400.

Actually, Lifetime warranty sucks... Id much rather have a 3 year warranty since lifetime warranty is for the product's lifetime and as soon as the company stops making the card the warranty is gone.. Since I doubt either Ati or Nv will be making these cards for more than another year, there goes your lifetime warranty

 

[senatorblac]

which company will have better drivers?

 

[josh6079]

Link

In the mean time, getting back to ATI, NVIDIA, and the PC, what have we learned after today? We still can't predict the future of PC games, drivers, or hardware, but after looking at these results and their new track records, it certainly seems like with the introduction of the X1900 and 7900 series, that ATI may be in a better position to offer more substantial performance improvements than NVIDIA. As we've seen, NVIDIA hasn't been able to work a great deal of improvements out of the NV40/G70 architecture in our tests. With the R500 being quite different from venerable R300, we're interested in seeing what sort of improvements ATI can get from their new architecture. If ATI stays ahead in the driver game, they may very well have what it takes to beat out NVIDIA in the majority of games running on the current generation architectures.

From what Anandtech says, ATI seemed to have a better starting point in terms of drivers for the begining, but I would think it is safe to assume that both have alright drivers. The 6.8's did introduce some problems, but they have also given some decent performance improvements with certain cards such as the X1900GT. Nvidia has, I think 91.47's?, which might still be beta. All in all though, they both update pretty regularly and the difference between them is pretty nill considering there are always previous ones that can be used if need be and the updates occur almost monthly.

 

[Cookie Monster]

91.47 is WHQL.

 

[josh6079]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
91.47 is WHQL.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if it got that stamp yet.

 

[Captante]

7950GT vs X1950XTX goes to ATI in most games, but not by as much as you might expect ... which card is the better choice overall depends a lot on on price more then anything else in my opinion... if money isn't an object the XTX should win out in sheer fps & IQ.

As for overall speed based on the majority of benchmarks I've seen: 7950GX2 > X1950XTX > X1900XTX = 7900GTX > X1900XT > 7950GT > 7900GT ... for drivers, Nvidia gets the edge in terms of moniter adjustment & ease of upgrading, but ATI offers better image quality & compatability.