8.8 Earthquake hits Japan

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JimmiG

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I like my friends father take on this unfortunate event in Japan.


Basically, He believes that the Japanese are suffering because they are not Christian. Mind you this guy has an 8th grade education.

Godhatesjapan.com is still free

They're suffering because the islands are right in the middle of a high-risk zone for earthquakes. Apparently people just learn to live with the constant fear. "Small" quakes that would cause mass hysteria here are barely noticed over there. People shrug, pause for a second to catch their balance, and move on with their daily lives.
 

Nik

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wow meltdown by tokyo would be unfathomably devastating

They said 1100 something. I didn't catch the units.
Can anyone here put into perspective how high that number is?

The plant was releasing about a year's worth of radiation (if you lived there next to the plant) per hour, but still well below lethal levels.

A quick google search puts this radiation level (1015 microsieverts) at less than half the background radiation level of what you'd receive living in the UK. Apparently lethal levels are 2-5 sieverts, whatever a sievert is :awe:
 

rcpratt

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The plant was releasing about a year's worth of radiation (if you lived there next to the plant) per hour, but still well below lethal levels.

A quick google search puts this radiation level (1015 microsieverts) at less than half the background radiation level of what you'd receive living in the UK. Apparently lethal levels are 2-5 sieverts, whatever a sievert is :awe:
Americans are more familiar with rems, so that's 101.5 mrem. But yeah, that's less than half the average background dose, and about 1/50th the annual limit for radiation workers.
 

Jeff7

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How do rads compare to things like rems or sieverts?
One thing I came across is the banana equivalent dose. Everything there is in rems or sieverts.

Radiation units are somewhat outside my areas of expertise.
I saw something in there about rads being related to the others with some kind of weighting factor...and then there's Grays in there too.
 
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Nik

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How do rads compare to things like rems or sieverts?
One thing I came across is the banana equivalent dose. Everything there is in rems or sieverts.

Radiation units are somewhat outside my areas of expertise.

100 rem = 100 rad = 1 sievert, or so says google when you "convert rem to rad" or "convert sievert to rad" if you weren't too lazy to fucking google.
 

Jeff7

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100 rem = 100 rad = 1 sievert, or so says google when you "convert rem to rad" or "convert sievert to rad" if you weren't too lazy to fucking google.
I was wiki-ing. I didn't think of Google for that actually; too often if I try to use it for units, it doesn't know what I'm talking about, though a lot of the unit conversions I try to do aren't as simple as "1.475in = ? meters".
So where does that biological weighting factor come into play then?

[Rem] is the product of the absorbed dose in rads and a weighting factor, WR, which accounts for the effectiveness of the radiation to cause biological damage.

So it sounds like Rem = rads * weighting factor.


In any case, the banana equivalent dose is given as 3.6 millirems, assuming 1 banana a day for a year.
0.0036 rads, per Google's conversion.

Looks like we might have a lot of bananas flying out this way.
 
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DangerAardvark

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I like my friends father take on this unfortunate event in Japan.


Basically, He believes that the Japanese are suffering because they are not Christian. Mind you this guy has an 8th grade education.

Can you describe him so I can imagine roundhouse kicking him in the face?
 

Imp

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I like my friends father take on this unfortunate event in Japan.


Basically, He believes that the Japanese are suffering because they are not Christian. Mind you this guy has an 8th grade education.

I would have at least blamed tentacle porn first.
 

Ricemarine

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It's now said at least 1000 people are dead... and they used ocean water as coolant for one of the plants.
 

fatpat268

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The equivalent dose for 365 bananas (one per day for a year) is 36 μSv (3.6 mrems).
Bananas are radioactive enough to regularly cause false alarms on radiation sensors used to detect possible illegal smuggling of nuclear material at US ports.[4]
Another way to consider the concept is by comparing the risk from radiation-induced cancer to that from cancer from other sources. For instance, a radiation exposure of 1 µSv (10 mrem) increases your risk of death by about one in one million—the same risk as eating 40 tablespoons of peanut butter, or of smoking 1.4 cigarettes.[5]

Wait... So eating 10 bananas is equivalent to 1.4 cigarettes? Or am I reading that wrong.

In that same quote, it says:
36 μSv (3.6 mrem) ... 1 µSv (10 mrem)

typo?
 

Jeff7

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Banana Equivalent Dose - awesome!
"Bananas are radioactive enough to regularly cause false alarms on radiation sensors used to detect possible illegal smuggling of nuclear material at US ports."

Is that a banana in your pocket, or are you smuggling radioactive waste?
 

spidey07

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"Bananas are radioactive enough to regularly cause false alarms on radiation sensors used to detect possible illegal smuggling of nuclear material at US ports."

Is that a banana in your pocket, or are you smuggling radioactive waste?

Lol. What's the half life of potassium?
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_potassium

Potassium (K) has 24 known isotopes. Three isotopes occur naturally: 39K (93.3&#37, 40K (0.012%) and 41K (6.7%). The standard atomic mass is 39.0983(1) u. Naturally occurring 40K decays to stable 40Ar (11.2% of decays) by electron capture or positron emission (giving it the longest known positron-emitter nuclide half-life). Alternately and most of the time (88.8%) it decays to stable 40Ca by beta decay; 40K has a half-life of 1.250×109 years.
 
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