9/11 conspiracy theorists multiply

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: skace
You know what I think is sad? a 7 page thread where almost every 3rd post is someone calling another person stupid/moron/retarded. It's a terrible way to hold a discussion and hinges on a lack of real understanding. You want to know why these 9/11 conspiracy theories won't go away? Because the people attempting to debunk them are knee deep in elitism and name calling.

hahaha. This is ATOT, what did you expect?

 

[killface]

I understand it's "fun" to believe in conspiracies and pseudoscience. Aliens visiting us, bigfoot, astrology, etc. It seems to fulfill some basic need people have - maybe it's the need to "know" something others don't. Maybe it's like wanting to believe in magic...I dunno. But, come on...There is so much evidence on video and otherwise to disprove every conspiarcy theory people have about the WTC and it's just ignored.

 

[Lloyd Braun]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1

Originally posted by: skace
You know what I think is sad? a 7 page thread where almost every 3rd post is someone calling another person stupid/moron/retarded. It's a terrible way to hold a discussion and hinges on a lack of real understanding. You want to know why these 9/11 conspiracy theories won't go away? Because the people attempting to debunk them are knee deep in elitism and name calling.

Amen couldn't of said it better. If these globalist could get over themselves we might have a chance to save America. Here is the NAFTA 10 lane superhighway that will be built next year running from Mexico to Canada. http://www.911omissionreport.com/nafta_super_highway.html

To think I voted for this SOB. I must of been brainwashed.

Seriously.. I especially agree with you, skace, that many members on here are busting at the seems with elitism and must feel that 9/11 conspiracies are so debunked that they don't even need to debate with those who believe them. Not saying I agree with any of these theories, I do think the government has SOMETHING to hide from that day, and not just their ineptitude. I'm not swayed by either side right now, the unusual physics and subsequent research on the aftermath might prove no bombs were used or that a plane really crashed into the Pentagon, etc etc.. but does that honestly negate a conspiracy? Some of you seem AWFULLY sure of yourselves just by researching stuff online (isn't that what you guys make fun of the theorists for doing too?). Yeah, it's an pretty big risk to take if the USGovt did have anything to do with what happened that day, but with the surplus of greed and power so evident in this administration I'm just not convinced of their squeeky-clean innocence surrounding this day.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Lloyd Braun

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1

Originally posted by: skace
You know what I think is sad? a 7 page thread where almost every 3rd post is someone calling another person stupid/moron/retarded. It's a terrible way to hold a discussion and hinges on a lack of real understanding. You want to know why these 9/11 conspiracy theories won't go away? Because the people attempting to debunk them are knee deep in elitism and name calling.

Amen couldn't of said it better. If these globalist could get over themselves we might have a chance to save America. Here is the NAFTA 10 lane superhighway that will be built next year running from Mexico to Canada. http://www.911omissionreport.com/nafta_super_highway.html

To think I voted for this SOB. I must of been brainwashed.

Seriously.. I especially agree with you, skace, that many members on here are busting at the seems with elitism and must feel that 9/11 conspiracies are so debunked that they don't even need to debate with those who believe them. Not saying I agree with any of these theories, I do think the government has SOMETHING to hide from that day, and not just their ineptitude. I'm not swayed by either side right now, the unusual physics and subsequent research on the aftermath might prove no bombs were used or that a plane really crashed into the Pentagon, etc etc.. but does that honestly negate a conspiracy? Some of you seem AWFULLY sure of yourselves just by researching stuff online (isn't that what you guys make fun of the theorists for doing too?). Yeah, it's an pretty big risk to take if the USGovt did have anything to do with what happened that day, but with the surplus of greed and power so evident in this administration I'm just not convinced of their squeeky-clean innocence surrounding this day.

1. That link is a hoax.
2. Basic logic tells me enough. People who put crazy theories on the same ground as rational thought and then expect the crazy theories to have to be disproven categorically have no clue how science or reason work, period.

 

[Cygnus X1]

19 highjackers with box cutters? tell me who believes that one. Pick a CT and go with it. The burdon of proof lies with our government not internet bloggers. Use you mind and if you need help with that go to here, http://www.st911.org/

Don't forget to pass this one around to all you know. http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

Dear Lovers of Liberty, the struggle is just beginning! Get ready...

Are you aware by May of 2008 the law will require you to carry a national identification card?
Are you aware that there are plans being developed to have all Americans embedded with a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) computer chip under their skin so they can be tracked wherever they go?
Are you aware the Supreme Court has ruled that the government has no authority to impose a direct unapportioned tax on the labor of the American people, and the 16th Amendment does not give the government that power?
Are you aware that computer voting machines can be rigged and there is no way to ensure that your vote is counted?
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[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
19 highjackers with box cutters? tell me who believes that one. Pick a CT and go with it. The burdon of proof lies with our government not internet bloggers. Use you mind and if you need help with that go to here, http://www.st911.org/

did you read the thread or any of the links. You guys sound dumber by the minute.
"Wait, don't trust the internet bloggers, make up your own mind, but here is a link."
OMG, the pot/kettle factor is at an all time high.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
19 highjackers with box cutters? tell me who believes that one. Pick a CT and go with it. The burdon of proof lies with our government not internet bloggers. Use you mind and if you need help with that go to here, http://www.st911.org/

Don't forget to pass this one around to all you know. http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

Dear Lovers of Liberty, the struggle is just beginning! Get ready...

Are you aware by May of 2008 the law will require you to carry a national identification card?
I do blieve the government simply is requiring all drivers licenses to conform to a certain minimum standard
Are you aware that there are plans being developed to have all Americans embedded with a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) computer chip under their skin so they can be tracked wherever they go?
Link? I'd believe that someone has talked about doing it to convicted felons
Are you aware the Supreme Court has ruled that the government has no authority to impose a direct unapportioned tax on the labor of the American people, and the 16th Amendment does not give the government that power?
I've heard this, but I'd like to see the actual ruling
Are you aware that computer voting machines can be rigged and there is no way to ensure that your vote is counted?
Not in my state. I live in NV where we did it right. Diebold can blow us.
Aaron Russo is proud to announce the opening of "America: Freedom to Fascism" in theaters around the country. Tell your friends, family and co-workers - Everyone must see this film! Please forward this email to everyone you know!
Russo is an inconsistent nut, by liberterian standards

 

[killface]

Originally posted by: Cygnus X1
19 highjackers with box cutters? tell me who believes that one. Pick a CT and go with it. The burdon of proof lies with our government not internet bloggers. [/L]

Wrong. The burden of proof lies with the claimant.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Number1
Link

It is sad to think that half the population thinks that their own government is willing to kill thousand of its own citizens to achieve its foreign policy.

I was wrong. The Bush administration would and did send thousand of its soldiers to their death in Iraq despite the fact that:
Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
Iraq had NO weapon of mass destruction. The rest of the world knew this so Bush must have known.
The invasion of Iraq is the worst US foreign policy DISASTER ever. It has accomplished nothing except perhaps to promote hatred against the West.
Meanwhile in Afghanistan, the Taliban are regrouping, learning from the terrorist in Iraq and getting stronger. Osama Bin Laden is still on the loose, paranoia dictates US borders policy decisions and we keep hearing how right the Iraq invasion was by the US administration.
The invasion of Afghanistan was the right thing to do. I supported the invasion of Iraq until I found out that there was NO WMD. I thought that the US must have known something the rest of the world didn?t. Ya right!
I believe that the Iraq invasion was a personal vendetta by pres Bush to avenge the assassination attempt on his father and to finish the job started by his father.
I still don?t believe in the conspiracy theories and never will until they are proven in a court of law.
So YES the government would kill thousand of its citizen (soldiers) to achieve its foreign policy.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Number1
Link

It is sad to think that half the population thinks that their own government is willing to kill thousand of its own citizens to achieve its foreign policy.

I was wrong. The Bush administration would and did send thousand of its soldiers to their death in Iraq despite the fact that:
Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
Iraq had NO weapon of mass destruction. The rest of the world knew this so Bush must have known.
The invasion of Iraq is the worst US foreign policy DISASTER ever. It has accomplished nothing except perhaps to promote hatred against the West.
Meanwhile in Afghanistan, the Taliban are regrouping, learning from the terrorist in Iraq and getting stronger. Osama Bin Laden is still on the loose, paranoia dictates US borders policy decisions and we keep hearing how right the Iraq invasion was by the US administration.
The invasion of Afghanistan was the right thing to do. I supported the invasion of Iraq until I found out that there was NO WMD. I thought that the US must have known something the rest of the world didn?t. Ya right!
I believe that the Iraq invasion was a personal vendetta by pres Bush to avenge the assassination attempt on his father and to finish the job started by his father.
I still don?t believe in the conspiracy theories and never will until they are proven in a court of law.
So YES the government would kill thousand of its citizen (soldiers) to achieve its foreign policy.

So now this thread is a Bush rant, eh?

Time to move to Pettiness & Namecalling

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: Number1
Link

It is sad to think that half the population thinks that their own government is willing to kill thousand of its own citizens to achieve its foreign policy.

I was wrong. The Bush administration would and did send thousand of its soldiers to their death in Iraq despite the fact that:
Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
Iraq had NO weapon of mass destruction. The rest of the world knew this so Bush must have known.
The invasion of Iraq is the worst US foreign policy DISASTER ever. It has accomplished nothing except perhaps to promote hatred against the West.
Meanwhile in Afghanistan, the Taliban are regrouping, learning from the terrorist in Iraq and getting stronger. Osama Bin Laden is still on the loose, paranoia dictates US borders policy decisions and we keep hearing how right the Iraq invasion was by the US administration.
The invasion of Afghanistan was the right thing to do. I supported the invasion of Iraq until I found out that there was NO WMD. I thought that the US must have known something the rest of the world didn?t. Ya right!
I believe that the Iraq invasion was a personal vendetta by pres Bush to avenge the assassination attempt on his father and to finish the job started by his father.
I still don?t believe in the conspiracy theories and never will until they are proven in a court of law.
So YES the government would kill thousand of its citizen (soldiers) to achieve its foreign policy.

Of course it had nothing to do with Saddam violating resolution 1440 and the terms of the cease fire for 12 long years. Oh no. It was all some master plan and act of vengence... oh yes.
:roll:

BTW, EVERY major intelligence agency in the world thought he had WMDs as well. Including those countries opposed to the invasion like France and Russia. So either he had them, or he worked very hard to make people believe he had them. So don't try rewriting history, OK?

To say Bush lied is to claim every other intelligence agency in the world was in cahoots with him... even those who opposed him. It's also to say Clinton lied as did his administration, and the Democratic leaders lied as well.

See what happens when you start making up conspiracy theories? They become far more unlikely when everyone in the damn world has to be in on them, even those who hate the leader of the supposed conspiracy.