9/11 settlement is wrong

[Halogen]

i think it's rediculous because the WTC was actually almost all expensive offices with very wealthy people in it who have like 500k insurance policies

the only people who should have got anything are the guys who dont make too much who may actually need the money such as the janitor's family or some of the other low pay guys and gals such as the odd secretary here and there and compensate those bussiness which were shut down in the local area because the threat of dust and hardcore loss of bussiness from such a trajedy

 

[Kaieye]

I have to agree with Grunt03 and Hans007 with their opinion. How about the bombing victims at the Federal building done by Timothy McVeigh?? The government should step out and keep its nose out
of it.

I also feel that the Uncle Sam should NOT bail out the airline industry. If I open a business and it folded due to lack of business, should the Gov. bail me out?? I don't think so...



Kaieye

 

[CountZero]

The people in OKC didn't get anything from the government, what a slap in the face. Did they ever sue U-Haul or the fertilizer people? Did the government care if they did?

Why does our government have to give so much money to the airlines? The airlines should get no more and no less than what is offered to other businesses affected by this. The airlines SHOULD get sued! If a jury or a judge finds them liable then they get what they deserve. Our government should not have to bail out a company. They've already given them a ton of money let the airlines figure out what to do with that money.

It irritates the hell out of me to think of how many people have been seriously impacted by this and the government's biggest concern is over whether an airline company or two goes belly up.

If OKC families didn't get money I don't think WTC families should either.

Note that to me it's not really the money itself its the reason for the money that I don't like. I do believe our government should help those in need. Need should be decided AFTER charitable money has been distributed and should be given in the form of low/no interest loans or grants of some sort. If the airlines need help to cover lawsuits let them get a low-interest loan.

 

[Triumph]

My first statement is that the government should not be giving out money to the families of the people who died.

My second point is, on what grounds are people going to sue the airlines? An honest question, I haven't heard much specifics about it.

 

[gumbysucks]

The settlements will be reduced by insurance payouts but not by charity donations. I think its wrong for the government to get involved like this.

 

[Doomguy]

Was your dad killed on 9/11? I think not. Mine was. Therefore i'm going to present my opinion from my point of view.

So many of you are ignorant. The goverment can't do much to stop drive by shootings but 9/11 should have been stopped. A terrorist attack of this size should not have happened. A CAR ACCIDENT IS AN ACCIDENT. THIS DIFFERENT. Our intelligence agencies failed to do their job.

Also if the government didn't step in all the families would have sued, that would have possibly killed the airlines.

Do you guys think my family is going to go out and get a really nice BMW with the money? Don't think so. The money will make sure we don't have to worry if we can afford to pay the bills.

Also my family is not wealthy. We live in a small house and my mom drives a honda. You're assuming everyone that worked there made 100k+

 

[rahvin]

I will say it again, this money is to prevent lawsuits, if you don't agree not to sue you don't see a dime. These two airlines are crucial to domestic air travel, AA is close to 30% of all flights in the US. If they go under there would be parts of the country that wouldn't even be getting air service anymore. Clinton prevented an AA employee strike because of the damage it would have caused the economy to have them shut down for a couple days. Make no mistake, if AA went out of business you would know what a depression is. Just as the government bailed out Chrysler in the 80's the government is preventing AA and USAIR from going under, there are simply too many jobs at stake.

Doomguy, your loss was tremendous but no one in this country, certainly not the taxpayers owe you a dime. Accidents happen.

 

[Doomguy]

rahvin: Accidents happen, but this wasen't an accident. Tax payers don't owe my family a dime, the Airlines do, but they'll go under if they're forced to pay out.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

I wonder if the relatives of those killed by the Anthrax mailings are going to get anything?

 

[hans007]

the government can do tons to prevent drive by shootings. it'd probably be easier to prevent drive by shootings, they'd jsut have to put a cop on every corner.

 

[Doomguy]

<< the government can do tons to prevent drive by shootings. it'd probably be easier to prevent drive by shootings, they'd jsut have to put a cop on every corner. >>



Come on, be serious. That'd be impossible.

Work should not be a dangerous place, yet 3000+ civilians were killed at their job. When you drive a car you're taking a risk. You're supposed to be safe at work. If you live in a bad neighborhood and walk the streets you're taking a risk. See what i'm getting at?

 

[Halogen]

<< My second point is, on what grounds are people going to sue the airlines? An honest question, I haven't heard much specifics about it. >>



the basis of total imcompitance, lets make an example here:
Israel is under constant threat of Palistinian terrorist attacks right? that is why the door the cockpit in ALL Israeli plains are SEALED SHUT, nobody gets in or out of the cockpit until that damn plane lands. Israel has been doing that for over 20 years.
if the doors were sealed shut on 9/11 those terrorists would not gained control of the plain and would not have crashed into the WTC

the airlines are full of stupid people, although im in Canada where there is no real threat there are a bunch of stupid people thinkin we could be a target for obviously no reason at all so security was 'beefed up' yet a month after 9/11 they did a random security check and they found that the guy's checking were ABLE TO SMUGGLE ABOARD FAKE GUNS AND FAKE HAND GRENADES!!!
the US screening system is setup the same way as in Canada, a bunch of stupid security guards who get paid as much as people who work at McDonalds

talk about gross neglegence

 

[vegetation]

Well, seems to me it should've been better thought out. Some kind of differential put in place so those who had 7 figure bank accounts and life insurance policies would be disqualified from getting monetary compensation. Sorry, I only think it's fair to give money to those who really need it so they don't go lose their home or their kids have to get part time jobs to make ends meet. Also, maybe these guys families could have had extensive tax credits rolled out over 18 years or something like that. Seems a lot more fair than giving cold cash.

 

[Lounatik]

Realistically,the governments job is to protect its citizens and to enforce the laws.Period.Whatever the government has become is a travesty.I do not think that my tax money should go towards any relief effort.Why? Because insurance and all the charities that collected money for the attacks should be used. The government has become a handout program,where politicians use your money to buy their votes.
So how about those who have no insurance? Sorry,I should not have to support that persons family because he/she was unable to acquire life insurance.Nor is it up to the government to decide that i should pay for it.I know it sounds callous,but damn it,I am tired of losing a third of my pay to fund the government and all of its handouts.It is my responsibility to take care of my family and myself first and foremost.I have a harder and harder time doing that when my paycheck keeps getting smaller and smaller(through no fault of my own).


Remember,the government is the only entity in the U.S. that can legally take your posessions at gunpoint.And if you dont pay your taxes,that is exactly what they will do.



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Lounatik

 

[Halogen]

yeah i agree fully, for those who have a flooded house then say 'oh well we didn't have insurance' i think you don't deserve to live in a house if you are that retarded!

if you think 1/3 is bad, move to canada where they take rouglhy 48% in taxes, HOLY F*** THAT IS GAY!!!

and there was actualy a special on TV that proves you do not technicaly have to pay taxes but the government forces you against it's own rules
according to the book of laws and stuff, you do not have to pay any tax on any DIRECT TRADE, now technically you get money as a direct trade for flipping burgers at mcdonalds. DIRECT TRADE is supposed to be tax free but they government lies, damn bastards!

 

[Lounatik]

What is even better is when the government(FEMA here in U.S.) bails out the bungholes who build in a flood plain...and they go right back to building where they lived before.Again using my tax money to fund their doings.




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Lounatik

 

[Lounatik]

Here is an interesting article.And I should have to foot the bill for more? I dont think so. Linky Dinky



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Lounatik

 

[Cessna172]

<< So many of you are ignorant. The goverment can't do much to stop drive by shootings but 9/11 should have been stopped. A terrorist attack of this size should not have happened. A CAR ACCIDENT IS AN ACCIDENT. THIS DIFFERENT. Our intelligence agencies failed to do their job.
>>



Doomguy, sorry to hear about your dad. But, the fact that this attack was on purpose doesn't change the outcome at all. Who cares what the difference between an accident and a purposeful attack is? The result is the same: people are dead. My dad is still alive, but if he died, I don't care if it was in a car accident or because of someone murdering him--he'd be gone and I would miss him the same either way. I might be angrier about someone killing him on purpose, but that doesn't mean I need more money than if it was an accident. Money from the government isn't going to make me less angry.

And if you think that the government needs to pay off grieving families of people who were killed on purpose, you're including a huge number of people: everyone who is murdered, etc. The government can't pick and choose--they would have to treat all equally, and I don't think the government should be involved in that. That's what insurance companies and charitable funds are for.

Same with the airlines--they have insurance policies against lawsuits, etc. Let them worry about it--not the government. And I don't think there is any liability here on the part of either the airlines OR the government, anyways. I mean, do you really expect both of them to be perfect? The terrorists were very smart. There's no reason why they couldn't have planned this attack without using any forms of electronic communication. Everything could have been done in small rooms behind closed doors. I don't blame our intelligence agencies for this--they're not going to catch EVERYTHING. If you think they should, you're being unrealistic. Same with airlines--even now, with the increased security measures, it's still quite possible to sneak in simple weapons like the ones the terrorists used. I certainly wouldn't have been worried to see someone with a box cutter or pocket knife on board an airplane before 9-11. Now we know better, but don't blame the airlines for not being able to predict the future. They're just companies made up of regular people--they're not fortune tellers. And they shouldn't be punished for it, either.