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TheGeek

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i think 9/11. the tsunamiwas a natural disaster. unavoidable. thousands of people die eveyday from natural causes. the 9/11 attacks were an attack on america with airplanes. far from natural.
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Tsunami.

unlike what american media wants you to think, no other nation cared that much about it. same way we care about tsunami..

but 9/11 affected how many countries?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

the world changed forever on that day.

the world also changed forever when this natural disaster tragedy occurred, but both are completely different
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Just when I think I've seen the dumbest question ever someone comes along and tops it...:roll:
 

dragonballgtz

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I would say the tsunami.

I would think most Americans would say 9/11 though. Since it happened on American soil. The tsunami did not kill a lot of Americans so most don't care about it. They feel bad about it but, it's not on there minds like 9/11 was.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 changed the world.

the tsunami also changed the world and affected much more people directly.

both are completely different however

How did the Tsumani change the world? I doubt people will start living inland all of a sudden....

Their economies are ruined? Most of their GDP came from tourism...If not most a LOT

The world, not their country.

so what, their country's economy ... happy now?

the tsunami may force govt. of India and Sri Lanka to develop a tsunami warning system like the one they have in the pacific ocean
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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bigger disaster ? Tsunami. But I think the sheer fact that people would fly airplanes into buildings to destroy lives (including their own) drives home a more impactful message.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: s1len7 n1nj4
i think 9/11. the tsunamiwas a natural disaster. unavoidable. thousands of people die eveyday from natural causes. the 9/11 attacks were an attack on america with airplanes. far from natural.

not 120k in just a few days. there is a fear that many hundreds of thousands may die in the upcoming days and weeks
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: raildogg
9/11 changed the world.

the tsunami also changed the world and affected much more people directly.

both are completely different however

How did the Tsumani change the world? I doubt people will start living inland all of a sudden....

Their economies are ruined? Most of their GDP came from tourism...If not most a LOT

The world, not their country.

so what, their country's economy ... happy now?

the tsunami may force govt. of India and Sri Lanka to develop a tsunami warning system like the one they have in the pacific ocean

Again, how did it change THE WORLD.
 

HalosPuma

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Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Taggart
So which do you think is the 'bigger,' or should I say worse, disaster? The tsunami or 911?

1st World disasters are always bigger in scope because our society is very advanced. 9/11 changed not only how our country runs, but also how other nations run. This tsunami changes nothing. Hotels will still be built on coastlines, tourists will still sit on the beaches, people will still live by the coastlines, etc. Even today (Thursday), the Drudge Report had pictures of tourists tanning themselves on the very beach where many were killed. Life goes on.

 

Taggart

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Descartes
Oh, and I'm quite certain you'd feel differently if you lived in Sumatra.

Totally different situation. Of course one would feel more attached to a "local" disaster than one on the other side of the world.

That's precisely what I was saying. Here is an American suggesting that the "tsunami is nowhere near as gut-wrenching and traumatic as 911 was for Americans." I haven't the words...

This is simply a statement of fact, not an opinion. The US essentially shut down after 911 and most Americans were sobbing in front of their TV's everytime they replayed the footage of the collapsing towers. 911 devastated the entire country. I would like to think that most Americans are saddened by the tsunami disaster, but the traumatic effect is NOT as intense. It is like every other natural disaster that happens 1000's of miles away-- there is a detachment that prevents a great deal of mourning and empathy for the victims. Yes there is empathy, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as intense when it happens on the other side of the world and your only exposure to it is through the evening news.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Descartes
What's worse: Having the hubris to suggest a comparison or lacking the heart to actually consider it?

It's only indicative of a desire to understand the difference in reaction caused by a natural disaster and a terrorist attack. I've noticed and puzzled over it myself.

Are the two comparable? If not why? One can't fault another for seeking the answer to those questions.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: s1len7 n1nj4
i think 9/11. the tsunamiwas a natural disaster. unavoidable. thousands of people die eveyday from natural causes. the 9/11 attacks were an attack on america with airplanes. far from natural.

Are you serious? It was completely avoidable. Several hours passed between the time of the earthquake and the time the waves hit land. I think this is one of the worst disasters in human history bar none.
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Taggart
So which do you think is the 'bigger,' or should I say worse, disaster? The tsunami or 911?

1st World disasters are always bigger in scope because our society is very advanced. 9/11 changed not only how our country runs, but also how other nations run. This tsunami changes nothing. Hotels will still be built on coastlines, tourists will still sit on the beaches, people will still live by the coastlines, etc. Even today (Thursday), the Drudge Report had pictures of tourists tanning themselves on the very beach where many were killed. Life goes on.

the tsunami changes nothing? :disgust:

who gives a fvck about hotels.

hundreds of thousands of families were directly affected by the tsunami. according to some sources and news the death toll could reach 400k and above.

it tells you how strong mother nature is even in the 21st century.

man vs. nature = nature wins
 

Babbles

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It is really hard and unfair to say which is worse when there is such a huge number of dead. However I would say that 9/11 would be worse because it was man acting out and killing fellow mankind. 9/11 could have been avoided but it was a deliberate attack to kill people and wreck havoc on economies across the globe.
While the tsunami clearly devasted people's lives, or took those lives, it was an act of nature. No one person or persons brought the tusnami onto those people.


Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Tsunami.
unlike what american media wants you to think, no other nation cared that much about it. same way we care about tsunami..

Whatever, you tool. Just about every nation in the word was affected by the attacks on the WTC just like almost every nation with this tsunami. There are something like 1,000 missing Americans from that tsunami. We, maybe not your pathetic butt, do care about that tsunami.

 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Taggart
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Descartes
Oh, and I'm quite certain you'd feel differently if you lived in Sumatra.

Totally different situation. Of course one would feel more attached to a "local" disaster than one on the other side of the world.

That's precisely what I was saying. Here is an American suggesting that the "tsunami is nowhere near as gut-wrenching and traumatic as 911 was for Americans." I haven't the words...

This is simply a statement of fact, not an opinion. The US essentially shut down after 911 and most Americans were sobbing in front of their TV's everytime they replayed the footage of the collapsing towers. 911 devastated the entire country. I would like to think that most Americans are saddened by the tsunami disaster, but the traumatic effect is NOT as intense. It is like every other natural disaster that happens 1000's of miles away-- there is a detachment that prevents a great deal of mourning and empathy for the victims. Yes there is empathy, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as intense when it happens on the other side of the world and your only exposure to it is through the evening news.

My god. Is your tiny little view of the world ever narrow.

So, because it isn't happening to Americans it isn't really a disaster? You make me sick. :| :thumbsdown:
 

everman

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Not to minimize the insane loss of life that keeps climbing due to the Tsunami and its after effects, but I would have to say 911 is certainly much more of a world changing event.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Taggart
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Descartes
Oh, and I'm quite certain you'd feel differently if you lived in Sumatra.

Totally different situation. Of course one would feel more attached to a "local" disaster than one on the other side of the world.

That's precisely what I was saying. Here is an American suggesting that the "tsunami is nowhere near as gut-wrenching and traumatic as 911 was for Americans." I haven't the words...

This is simply a statement of fact, not an opinion. The US essentially shut down after 911 and most Americans were sobbing in front of their TV's everytime they replayed the footage of the collapsing towers. 911 devastated the entire country. I would like to think that most Americans are saddened by the tsunami disaster, but the traumatic effect is NOT as intense. It is like every other natural disaster that happens 1000's of miles away-- there is a detachment that prevents a great deal of mourning and empathy for the victims. Yes there is empathy, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as intense when it happens on the other side of the world and your only exposure to it is through the evening news.

My god. Is your tiny little view of the world ever narrow.

So, because it isn't happening to Americans it isn't really a disaster? You make me sick. :| :thumbsdown:

Maybe because it is true? Have your closest family member die in a plane crash versus some perons 9,000 miles away and tell me it is the same.
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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3-4 vs. 120+ thousand dead - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I know, the decision is so tough :roll:
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Taggart
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Descartes
Oh, and I'm quite certain you'd feel differently if you lived in Sumatra.

Totally different situation. Of course one would feel more attached to a "local" disaster than one on the other side of the world.

That's precisely what I was saying. Here is an American suggesting that the "tsunami is nowhere near as gut-wrenching and traumatic as 911 was for Americans." I haven't the words...

This is simply a statement of fact, not an opinion. The US essentially shut down after 911 and most Americans were sobbing in front of their TV's everytime they replayed the footage of the collapsing towers. 911 devastated the entire country. I would like to think that most Americans are saddened by the tsunami disaster, but the traumatic effect is NOT as intense. It is like every other natural disaster that happens 1000's of miles away-- there is a detachment that prevents a great deal of mourning and empathy for the victims. Yes there is empathy, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as intense when it happens on the other side of the world and your only exposure to it is through the evening news.

My god. Is your tiny little view of the world ever narrow.

So, because it isn't happening to Americans it isn't really a disaster? You make me sick. :| :thumbsdown:

i was in NYC when 9/11 so it affected me greatly. but i am affected by this disaster as well, maybe as much as 9/11.

you say there were videos on 9/11? well we have actual videos of the tsunami's and actual people been killed by them

i think comparing the 2 is really idiotic
 

Babbles

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Jan 4, 2001
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Just to counter about how Americans don't care. Just now I was surfing news sites and both CNN, MSNbC and FoxNews have the tsunami headlining the front page but the BBC has something about celebrating New Years as the headline on the front page.

And we Amercians don't care??
 
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