Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Originally posted by: Tweakin
Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Stability is relative to the task at hand There is no "absolute" when it comes to what one can define as stable. What might be stable for one thing (benching Futuremark Vantage, or Super Pi 1M) might not be stable for another (video encoding). I say as long as it doesn't BSOD for the task at hand, it's stable enough. Am I ever gonna run Prime95 for 24 hours straight so I can prove to a bunch of people it's "stable". Nope, because as long as it does what I want it to do, as fast as it can, I'm good.
Stability is the ability to throw anything at the system and not crash. This is not to say that the code itself may cause something, we are talking about the hardware as a direct result of changes to the system specs.
If I'm encoding movies, and it can do so perfectly fine @ 4.6GHz, yet it fails P95 at 4.6, why should I slow it down just for it to pass P95 Assuming there are no glitches or errors with the DVD.
Originally posted by: Yoxxy
Just got a 920 D0 that is 1.325 vidded. I think D0 might just be luck of the draw same as C0 stepping. Overclocking requirements are higher than any C0 I have had, although I only tried it a bit last night.
Wow that sucks. VID was taken in BIOS? What was your chips batch #? Same as the batch Tank Guys got? I guess I should be happy with mine, it does 3.9GHz with HT at 1.30V (1.31V with Turbo).Originally posted by: Yoxxy
Just got a 920 D0 that is 1.325 vidded. I think D0 might just be luck of the draw same as C0 stepping. Overclocking requirements are higher than any C0 I have had, although I only tried it a bit last night.
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Boy I like your post, But the part I bolded. NOway. I have been involved with Stock car racing for 49 years. Your statement above is False . When you consider . People in racing . Get really really quit when they have something good. Only when they are sucking hind tit do they Blab .
Originally posted by: harbin
Just want to know, is my C0 920 LinX 20 run @4.0g with 1.19V Vcore any good comparing with your D0 result? Or I need do more to approve D0 is nothing new?
Originally posted by: Yoxxy
Just got a 920 D0 that is 1.325 vidded. I think D0 might just be luck of the draw same as C0 stepping. Overclocking requirements are higher than any C0 I have had, although I only tried it a bit last night.
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Boy I like your post, But the part I bolded. NOway. I have been involved with Stock car racing for 49 years. Your statement above is False . When you consider . People in racing . Get really really quit when they have something good. Only when they are sucking hind tit do they Blab .
You are creating a poor comparison here because you have neglected motive.
In your analogy the motive for "going quiet" is that there is a competitive advantage to be maintained by keeping quiet...keyword here being competitive.
It is true that racing is about ego and money, both of which require winning and winning requires a competitive advantage which requires (for some aspects) one to keep quiet about some things while making a ruckus over others (communicating a sense of confidence to undermine your competitor's confidence is not always a ruse or a bad thing).
However the post you are responding to is discussing a hobby sport for which their is no financial beneficiary at the consumer level for one NOT boasting of their e-peen regardless of its diminutive stature.
Staying quiet about your uber 5GHz air-cooled rig does not confer upon you any level of competitive advantage, unlike racing, as the end-goals in mind are entirely unsuited to keeping something hidden from your forum friends.
People are prone to not report their lackluster OC results in the face of seeming overwhelming number of reports of similar hardware reaching proportionately higher results, there are elements of embarrassment as well as frustration involved there. This is why manufacturers go to the cost and expense of seeding review sites and sponsored individuals (such as Aigo) with ES's...to generate that initial volume of favorable results to set expectations high so that when consumers purchase those (similar, but not the same) retail samples they will be less likely to report their experience with retail chips if it falls substantially below the mean (average) of the existing typical reported overclock.
Look at the Q6600 G0's and how long it took for it to become common accepted wisdom on the forums that a typical G0 overclock would net you around 3.2-3.4GHz instead of the 3.6-3.8GHz that most people touted for nearly a year at first. Those first few brave folks who were willing to air their ignorance and report "I can't get above 3.3GHz stable" got torn a new one for their ignorance and paltry cooling...then it was "well these latest G0's just don't OC as well as the earlier ones", and only after we got thru that did people start coming out of the woodwork admitting "well I had an early G0 and it didn't OC worth crap either but I never felt like reporting it...".
(I was one of the latter, all five of my early G0's won't go over 3.4GHz and that is with lapped HSF and IHS)
Originally posted by: aigomorla
well my classified comes in this week as i said.
i'll get some 5ghz posts out once that board arrives.
I think my vid is high, but then again, i havent seen an ES which didnt have a high vid.
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
aigomorla
Rubycon asked about chiller to ambient dew. I have chiller setup on my dothan setup. I never turn on anymore. I would be interested in knowing the cost of electricty to run your chiller 24/7. Mine is really expensive to run 1600 watts heating and 800watts cooling on a four loop set up .
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: aigomorla
well my classified comes in this week as i said.
i'll get some 5ghz posts out once that board arrives.
I think my vid is high, but then again, i havent seen an ES which didnt have a high vid.
What will that board do your current board won't?
I have some (classified boards) enroute but they will not be in my hands for 1 1/2 weeks.
Originally posted by: JAG87
Boards? What the hell... ganaste la lotería?
Anyways the board is state of the art, the power delivery on this board ridicules anything else. In all these years of overclocking I have never been entirely sure that my CPU is completely maxed out and that instability comes from the cpu, not from the VRM being stressed too much. With this board, I am. And I could not bring myself to understand how I am running 200 BCLK with 1.2 VTT (stock). It could be that my cpu has a really strong IMC, but I am convinced the board is responsible for it.
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Sounds perfect!
Yes everything I get is ordered in duplicate in case of DOA's. I don't mind especially when it comes to CPU's. I was really disappointed when one of my QX9770's was a worse o/c than both QX9650's. Again it's a lottery and my luck is less than stellar and I'm not ashamed to admit it. :laugh:
One question about AUX power. This board has two of them. Is there really any benefit to plugging in both connectors to the PSU? I ask because my case is wired VERY tight and I can bring another line but if it makes no difference than why go through the hassle?
Originally posted by: aigomorla
well my classified comes in this week as i said.
i'll get some 5ghz posts out once that board arrives.
I think my vid is high, but then again, i havent seen an ES which didnt have a high vid.
Originally posted by: JAG87
Must be sweet to have the financial liberty to order 2 of everything. You do that with cars too, you know in case you get a lemon?
lol jokes aside, I have two 12V lines into the cpu from the Revolution85, I never tried with one. I am sure it would be just fine, but #1 I would have to find space to coil up the unused 4+4pin plug, and #2 why not use two if you got them... it's always better to balance the load!
Originally posted by: JAG87
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Sounds perfect!
Yes everything I get is ordered in duplicate in case of DOA's. I don't mind especially when it comes to CPU's. I was really disappointed when one of my QX9770's was a worse o/c than both QX9650's. Again it's a lottery and my luck is less than stellar and I'm not ashamed to admit it. :laugh:
One question about AUX power. This board has two of them. Is there really any benefit to plugging in both connectors to the PSU? I ask because my case is wired VERY tight and I can bring another line but if it makes no difference than why go through the hassle?
Must be sweet to have the financial liberty to order 2 of everything. You do that with cars too, you know in case you get a lemon?
lol jokes aside, I have two 12V lines into the cpu from the Revolution85, I never tried with one. I am sure it would be just fine, but #1 I would have to find space to coil up the unused 4+4pin plug, and #2 why not use two if you got them... it's always better to balance the load!
Originally posted by: Rubycon
LOL I do ok I just have near zero cost of living expenses and bills.
Originally posted by: IanY
Aigomorla,
Sorry to be a party pooper. Yes, these processors generally run a desired overclock and a lower voltage. Generally.
However, have you read all across the internet forums? Its a crap shoot. Some of the guys who bought the retail D0s from Microcenter, Tankguys, Fry's and elsewhere are having nightmares. Their new D0s are overclocking worse then their previous C0/C1s.
As with any overclocking, its entirely a crap shoot. You are working with a cherry picked engineering sample (as with most of XS) that may not be representative of what is on the store shelves.
All the rest of you, don't expect over 4.0 Ghz with a D0. If you get 4.5 Ghz, then congratulations.
Remember that people shut up when they are down and raise a ruckus when they have something good. For every person making noise about how great the item he just bought, there are easily two others who feel they got duped and are suckered.
Anybody ever heard of someone standing on a mountain and yelling "hey, I have a small penis" ?
Originally posted by: Kraeoss
and a 10k+ job right
Originally posted by: IanY
Originally posted by: Rubycon
LOL I do ok I just have near zero cost of living expenses and bills.
I was in Hamilton in January on business. It was a nice change from the winter around New York.
It must be frustrating waiting for shipments to arrive from the US, and I can understand why you buy two of everything. My wife doesn't object to the cost of the hobby, but hates the brown boxes, and complains incessantly about leftover brown boxes that are not thrown away lol It must be nice for cost of living to be taken care of
I can see why you don't drive over there. There is just no need to, and I could walk to everywhere I wanted to go. I rented a bike on my day off, and the beach was lovely, even though the water was a bit cold. Even then, I came from sub-freezing temps and it was heavenly.
BTW, if your profile is right, I'm the same age.
IIRC Rubycon works on a boat (Norwegian Dawn?), hence the no driving and all expenses paid.
Originally posted by: IanY
IIRC Rubycon works on a boat (Norwegian Dawn?), hence the no driving and all expenses paid.
Ooopps.. I got the whole thing wrong then, sorry. I thought the person is named Dawn and lives in Bermuda. lol