9800 pro @ newegg for $172?

[lzpoof]

Originally posted by: poohbear

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Spudd
Good question. All I can say is be very careful what you buy if the price seems a little too good at the moment.

Exactly...I assume many who ordered thought they were ripping Newegg off on a price mistake so I have little pity.

whoah, that's quite the leap in logic mate, how can u say u have no pity for ppl who themselves are getting ripped off? I would lay the blame much more on eihter the incompetence and ignorance of said stores employee's to relay the said information or on sapphire for still using the 9800 PRO name.

I lump it solely on sapphire for their basically illegal naming. If you go to a car dealership and buy a Mazda 6 'V6' generalyl speaking you expect to ahve a V6 under the hood. If you buy an HDTV you generally expect it to be HD. If you buy a Dolby digital receiver, you expect it can do dolby digital. If you buy a progressive scan DVD player you expect it can do progressive scan.

What sapphire did is purely illegal. They are purposely mislabelling one product as another to sell back inventory. Heck they're probably using old 9500 PCBs they ahd lying around.

To put this in perspective.... anyone remember how ticked off everyone got when Nvidia started putting 'GF2 Pro' cores in GF2 GTS cards and selling them as Pros even though they were just GTS's ??? Imagine how pised off you'd be if they sold you a GF2MX as a GF2 Pro cause that's basically what Sapphire's doing.

Personally I say boycott any company that stoops to flat out lying to its customers... as far as we know it's just Sapphire ... if it turns out ATI put them up to it, I don't think I'll ever buy another ATI video card.... I mean how the hel1 am I supposed to know what I'm getting ?

 

[CheetahMk2]

Heh.... this reminds me of the 9800 Pro... type R!

"Yeah, I got a 9800 Pro type R under the hood. I just had it painted too, that shade of red was annoying."

Regardless, anyone who bought it when it said 256bit should get just that. It's not a revision thing, it's an entirely different product thing. Same thing with Dell and the rebate issues it had, as soon as they charged your card they accepted your offer to buy it at that price with said description. I hope somewhere has a saved cache of the page when it said what it did.

Newegg should refund shipping back to them and give a full credit if they want 100% satisfaction. If they were honestly nice they would exchange for a regular 9800 pro, but the chances of them being that nice are slim. Newegg is generally good about stuff like this, so I don't know how they could screw up so badly.

 

[Spudd]

:beer:

Edit: I have a pic of the NewEgg site back when it was 256bit.

 

[RedShirt]

Originally posted by: CheetahMk2
Heh.... this reminds me of the 9800 Pro... type R!

"Yeah, I got a 9800 Pro type R under the hood. I just had it painted too, that shade of red was annoying."

Regardless, anyone who bought it when it said 256bit should get just that. It's not a revision thing, it's an entirely different product thing. Same thing with Dell and the rebate issues it had, as soon as they charged your card they accepted your offer to buy it at that price with said description. I hope somewhere has a saved cache of the page when it said what it did.

Newegg should refund shipping back to them and give a full credit if they want 100% satisfaction. If they were honestly nice they would exchange for a regular 9800 pro, but the chances of them being that nice are slim. Newegg is generally good about stuff like this, so I don't know how they could screw up so badly.

I have a printout and a save of the page. I had a feeling something was not right, but didn't know for sure (as I said before, Frys sold a Pro at this price not to long ago, plus with the new cards, price drops are bound to happen).

I wanted to cover my tracks. I'll be calling Newegg tomorrow and am going to see what happens.

 

[Linux23]

I guess this is not sucha Hot Deal after all? LOL

I just ordered the 256-Bit version to replace my dieing 9500 Pro

 

[carnettb]

Sapphire Technology Limited - - Sapphire ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -Retail
Details:
-1024-1C47 Sapphire ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -Retail
Part - N82E16814102369


That was the description of the item I purchased, now its saying its only 128 bit, and that its only oem in the description

You can head over to pricewatch.com and under 9800 pro its the first card listed and still has the old 256bit description that links to the now listed as 128 bit card.


I would hope they would just bite the bullet and ship what was actualy listed instead of this nuetered 128 bit crap card.

The bad thing is even though the item page description was wrong apparenty, when I checked out and printed the order for my records it shows only as a vga oem radeon.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: poohbear

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Spudd
Good question. All I can say is be very careful what you buy if the price seems a little too good at the moment.

Exactly...I assume many who ordered thought they were ripping Newegg off on a price mistake so I have little pity.

whoah, that's quite the leap in logic mate, how can u say u have no pity for ppl who themselves are getting ripped off? I would lay the blame much more on eihter the incompetence and ignorance of said stores employee's to relay the said information or on sapphire for still using the 9800 PRO name.

As I said, I have pity...just little. I think the blame lies all around, honestly. The same card was on sale for $179 from Fry's, true, but that was a 1-day aniversary sale and this card was almost $10 cheaper than even that crazy sale. Many people immediatly posted suspicion that the description could be wrong, but people still took a chance. Why they couldn't wait a few days for confirmation (if they really thought this was the new price) and had to, instead, order right now, is beyond me unless they thought they were getting in on a price mistake.

It's like watching The Three Stooges. Sure you can feel bad for Curly getting smacked by Mo, but they all got smacked so you don't feel that bad for him.

I wouldn't worry too much. Newegg is top notch, so I'm sure they'll do something to make it right even if it's just refunding shipping charges and dropping the restocking fee. A lot of people even outside of this board got in on the deal, and they wouldn't just ignore their role in this mishap.

 

[Jackman]

I got in on the deal when it was $172, has anyone recieved the card yet? Mine is scheduled delivery on thursday. Can someone post their 3D Mark2003 score on this card in here or link to a new topic.. remember a true 9800Pro 128MB- 256bit score is around 5450. Come on post them scores when you get the card and how fast will it overclock. OK Guys!!!!:disgust:

 

[lzpoof]

Originally posted by: Jackman
I got in on the deal when it was $172, has anyone recieved the card yet? Mine is scheduled delivery on thursday. Can someone post their 3D Mark2003 score on this card in here or link to a new topic.. remember a true 9800Pro 128MB- 256bit score is around 5450. Come on post them scores when you get the card and how fast will it overclock. OK Guys!!!!:disgust:

You're not serious right ? You want scores ? go look at tomshardware and look up a 9500 Pro. IT will be almost exactly that score.

 

[carnettb]

Just got this in my email: I have to say I like newegg....even though they screwed up I went ahead and purchased another parts order through them for some new drives.


Unfortunately there was a typo in the specifications that has since been
corrected. You will not recieve a 256-bit video card, it will actually be a
128-bit video card. If you do not wish to keep this item, you can refuse the
item as you have mentioned. We do not intend to charge you any additional
charges or restocking fee's. You will be FULLY refunded. We apologize for
these unfavorable circumstances. If you have any further questions or concerns
please do not hesitate to contact our customer service department at
800-390-1119 or email us at service@newegg.com <mailto:service@newegg.com> .

 

[Solema]

Originally posted by: kennyG
Nice.. I picked one up for my brother, He's just getting into game..I also bought him FarCry..
I must say he's a happy Camper :thumbsup:

Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense guy. I can see buying this card to run previous-generation games, but why spend $175 on a crippled video card and expect it to run the most graphically-demanding game out, when a mere $20 more would yield a MUCH more capable card for that game?

 

[RedShirt]

FedEx just showed up. I denied delevery and will post if/when I see my money put back onto my card.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

I got the same email carnett did.

 

[lzpoof]

why don't we just close all these bogus threads and start a nice one flaming sapphire for their bullsh*t?

 

[Darkhawk28]

I'm not gonna buy a Sapphire card now, that's for sure. Don't like companies that play that stupid game. And I'm tempted now to order from Newegg either. Tempted mind you.

 

[RedShirt]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I'm not gonna buy a Sapphire card now, that's for sure. Don't like companies that play that stupid game. And I'm tempted now to order from Newegg either. Tempted mind you.

Same thoughts exactly.

Cept I don't think I can really blame Newegg. They are taking them back and refunding all the money. In addition it was Sapphire that caused all the confusion at first anyway.

Really, you could blame ATI since they are allowing this naming.

But really, after a few days to think about it, I'm glad it was a mistake, because I didn't need to upgrade

But yeah, DEATH TO SAPPHIRE!

 

[Jackman]

I got the card today. it performed pretty bad, 3D Mark 03 gave it a 3855 and my 9700 pro does 4945 stock. I'd refuse shipment..........it doen't perform well in my opinion.

 

[RedShirt]

Hmm, I should register:
www.BoycottSapphire.com

It is terrible how they purposly name this a 9800pro and it's about as good as a 9600 pro.

 

[AuraEdge]

I ordered this one, but I think im out of the restocking fee since I ordered it from ZZF and it probably did say 128bit in the title when I ordered it, I just didnt look.

Wanna hear something worse? Not sure if this was mentioned before since this thread is longggg, but its not even a 9800 Pro with 128-bit memory. This "9800Pro" is acutally a 9800 Non-Pro with 128-bit memory.Yes thats right, its not 380/340, but 325/290, the speed of a regular 9800.

TO top it off, it freezes up after about 5 seconds if you try to clock it to normal pro speeds.

So not only are they trying to shaft us with the 128-bit interface, but the freakin thing isnt even a "9800 Pro" in clockspeed.

Is Sapphire the only company who does this? After losing about 35 bucks on shipping and restocking fees, Im kind of afraid of getting another 9800Pro and I wanna make sure the next one I get is the right one. How bout that one on sale from Atacom.com for 199.95? Is that a legit 9800 Pro? They dont even say who the manufacturer is...

Cant turn your back on the comp scene for even one second. I didnt think anyone was stupid enough to make a "9800Pro that wasnt a 9800 Pro. Im pretty mad. If Sapphires the only one pulling this stupid marketing ploy, Im never buying another Sapphire card again. All crippled bandwidth cards before this got a unique name (TNT2 M64, MX200, even the 9800SE.)

 

[usernamemax20charact]

Originally posted by: AuraEdge
I ordered this one, but I think im out of the restocking fee since I ordered it from ZZF and it probably did say 128bit in the title when I ordered it, I just didnt look.

Wanna hear something worse? Not sure if this was mentioned before since this thread is longggg, but its not even a 9800 Pro with 128-bit memory. This "9800Pro" is acutally a 9800 Non-Pro with 128-bit memory.Yes thats right, its not 380/340, but 325/290, the speed of a regular 9800.

TO top it off, it freezes up after about 5 seconds if you try to clock it to normal pro speeds.

So not only are they trying to shaft us with the 128-bit interface, but the freakin thing isnt even a "9800 Pro" in clockspeed.

Is Sapphire the only company who does this? After losing about 35 bucks on shipping and restocking fees, Im kind of afraid of getting another 9800Pro and I wanna make sure the next one I get is the right one. How bout that one on sale from Atacom.com for 199.95? Is that a legit 9800 Pro? They dont even say who the manufacturer is...

Cant turn your back on the comp scene for even one second. I didnt think anyone was stupid enough to make a "9800Pro that wasnt a 9800 Pro. Im pretty mad. If Sapphires the only one pulling this stupid marketing ploy, Im never buying another Sapphire card again. All crippled bandwidth cards before this got a unique name (TNT2 M64, MX200, even the 9800SE.)

From what I've seen, Yes, Sapphire are the only ones who are trying to pull a fast one on all of us. No other manufacturer has, so far, put out a crippled 128-bit 9800 pro. If you want to make sure your next 9800 pro isn't a 128-bit one, then avoid Sapphire. 9800 pro's that *are* 256-bit typically start at $200 (OEM). Check newegg.com or zipzoomfly.com

 

[AuraEdge]

I was just asking about the Atacom deal since it was linked by Anandtech Deals.

It says 256-bit, so Ill probably go for it, but under 200 for a retail packaged R9800Pro makes me kind of reluctant.

Back to this card I have, now ready for RMA. The only place it shows up as a real 9800 PRO is under device manager, which it really doesnt matter as far as performance goes. Its clocked like a 9800 NonPro, and has a 128-bit interface.

Even if they claim that "9800Pro" (sans space) is thier own little marketing term for a non-Pro 128bit Radeon, I find it really shady that they still list it as a "9800 Pro" in device manager when it clearly isnt, even if it had the whole 256bit.

 

[Jackman]

Today i called newegg and i got a nice lady on the phone who was very helpful and give me the RMA with no questions asked, Its a refund RMA. and no restocking fee, i made sure i asked before we ended the conversation. I'm Happy, just out the $4.50 i spent shipping it back this afternnon. so refuse it if you can. Thats my advice if you ordered this card to use for gaming.

 

[RedShirt]

As I stated before, I refused fedex when it got here. Newegg shows a credit of 172 on my order history dated on the 1st.

It hasn't showed up online on my credit card, but they are always a few days behind on purchases and credits.