A4 Vs. IS

[sohcrates]

I fit fine in my new A4, but could barely squeeze into an IS300 (i'm 6'4")

That kinda solidified it for me

 

[GQUnknown]

ACURA TL TYPE-S will dust bost theses cars and cost lest and have more options. Trust me, do the research and you will see. Acura tl type-s 260 Horsepower fo under 30,000. With all luxurie options included as standard equipment.

 

[Boogak]

Go with the A4. But I believe the CVT is only available with the FrontTrak (front wheel drive) cars, not on the Quattros. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong...

 

[czhang]

thanks guys for all your inputs.

yea i've heard the IS has a cheesy interior, and audis are not as reliable..but they both look really nice on the outside.

For the a4 i'm considering the cvt, but i've heard thats kinda hard to find. I'm looking more for the safety and power. I have a mitsubishi mirage right now, and that thing takes forever to go up a hill, and the exterior is soo thin. so either one of those cars would be a big huge step up for me.

I'll go test drive them next week after christmas, so far i'm leaning toward the a4, becuase i heard the 2002 model has some improvements like more room for the back seat and a bigger trunk. I still have a hard time deciding though, but i do know its gonna be blue.

 

[sohcrates]

<< thanks guys for all your inputs.

yea i've heard the IS has a cheesy interior, and audis are not as reliable..but they both look really nice on the outside.

For the a4 i'm considering the cvt, but i've heard thats kinda hard to find. I'm looking more for the safety and power. I have a mitsubishi mirage right now, and that thing takes forever to go up a hill, and the exterior is soo thin. so either one of those cars would be a big huge step up for me.

I'll go test drive them next week after christmas, so far i'm leaning toward the a4, becuase i heard the 2002 model has some improvements like more room for the back seat and a bigger trunk. I still have a hard time deciding though, but i do know its gonna be blue. >>



yeah, be prepared to wait many many months to get a CVT A4

my A4 is denim blue. here's some denim blue pics if you're interested.

I also thought the IS300's interior was lacking as well

 

[czhang]

hey i was plannin to get that color if i was getting the a4, it looks tite

 

[vi edit]

I say the A4, although I wouldn't kick a sportcross out of my garage

 

[vi edit]

Oh, that color of blue is gorgeous!

 

[EXman]

an A4 is an overpriced jetta....

 

[nord1899]

<< an A4 is an overpriced jetta.... >>



For the most part I would agree. But show me a Jetta with AWD and I'll buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[LittleWolf]

<< an A4 is an overpriced jetta.... >>



You are quite cluesless aren't u ? :disgust:

To the one suggesting a Acura, any idea about it's handling capabilities and build quality/design. The TL is basically a gussies up Accord FYI. Just putting a more powerful engine doesn't make it better and plus no manual !

-j

 

[vi edit]

<< an A4 is an overpriced jetta.... >>



Yes and no. The 1.8t A4 w/ quatro for about 28k is an excellent buy IMHO. But the jump up to the 3.0L is a huge. I saw a decked out '02 A4 3.0 on the lot at the local Audi dealer the other day and was stickered at about $42,000. I about pooped myself when I saw that.

I can get an '01 S4 for $2,000 less than that.

The new A4 3.0's are horribly overpriced after you option them out.

 

[BigSmooth]

<< The new A4 3.0's are horribly overpriced after you option them out. >>


Most new entry-level luxury cars are like this, though. If you get the most powerful engine and start slapping on option packages, the price goes through the roof. There are exceptions (the TL-S being one of them), but look at Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar... they all have some options with crazy prices.

 

[EXman]

<< an A4 is an overpriced jetta.... >>



<< You are quite cluesless aren't u ? To the one suggesting a Acura, any idea about it's handling capabilities and build quality/design. The TL is basically a gussies up Accord FYI. Just putting a more powerful engine doesn't make it better and plus no manual !
>>

Helloooo... that is the same argument for the Jetta and A4 silly. Boy we have ourselves a Live One here!

Well I guess the truth hurts the A4turbo will get it's butt handed to it from a cheaper Jetta GLX (v6) that is the same car. And since a car is the single worst investment you will ever make putting 4 rings on the front pretending that it is a wholey different car is even more foolish than buying a new car to begin with.

If you need 4 rings on the front to fit in with your friends try trading them in instead of your car. and if you do it to promote a better "Lifestyle" you see for yourself then you need to have your head examined if you think your lifestyle will be better after buying a car regardless of the nameplate on the rear deck lid. :Q

Yikes that was a bit harsh! nothing like a dose of reality

 

[GQUnknown]

littlewolf,

you are such an idiot and hipprocrite

"<< an A4 is an overpriced jetta.... >>

You are quite cluesless aren't u ? :disgust:

To the one suggesting a Acura, any idea about it's handling capabilities and build quality/design. The TL is basically a gussies up Accord FYI. Just putting a more powerful engine doesn't make it better and plus no manual !"

You call somepone clueless, when they made a comment that A4 is an overpriced jetta but yet you call the TL a gussies up Accord. your the clueless one.

The TL-S will spank the POS you call an a4 any day of the year. Don't believe me go to any car sites that lists stats and you will see the TL type S will beat the a4 in every catagory.

And yes it is true that the a4 is an overpriced jetta.

And no, the TL type s don't have a manual but guess what it is still faster than a a4 with manual. so go figure.

heres a pic of the TL Type s
car

 

[vi edit]

'02 Jetta GLX VR6 - MSRP $25,250
'02 Audi A4 1.8t w/ quattro - $27,225

$2k more for Quattro (worth the $2k alone), 6 disk in dash CD changer, much mure luxurious interior, and a maintantance free warranty.

For another $500 you can do a chip swap that will have the 1.8t leaving the VR6 jetta in the dust.

 

[rootaxs]

Just in case anyone is interested, boost for boost the IS300 has the aftermarket turbo kit that pumps 400hp to the wheels. Same kit (modified) used on Supra's.

Made by the same people who made that 1000hp Viper (forgot their URL)

 

[EXman]

Just cause you have quattro does not mean an aneamic I-4turbo will beat a much lower priced V6. Now if you could get a V6 and quattro that is another matter. turbo I4's have no torque and the horsepower is not availible throughout the tach. Unless you keep the engine near the yellow your HP is not there. I like the A4 even though it has plagerizing looks of all other Audi's big brothers.

At least you didn't say it was a different car LoL another thing if you can put a chip in an audi you can also put a chip in a VW so that is a bad example.

 

[kt]

Forget the A4 and IS, get the A6.. you aren't that far off in terms of amount of money. A6 starts at $35k..and I believe IS is somewhere in that neighborhood too. But first thing first, learn how to drive standard car before thinking about getting any of these cars. It's such a waste getting any of these cars in automatic, it will just take out all the fun.

 

[vi edit]

<< Just cause you have quattro does not mean an aneamic I-4turbo will beat a much lower priced V6. Now if you could get a V6 and quattro that is another matter. turbo I4's have no torque and the horsepower is not availible throughout the tach. Unless you keep the engine near the yellow your HP is not there. I like the A4 even though it has plagerizing looks of all other Audi's big brothers.

At least you didn't say it was a different car LoL another thing if you can put a chip in an audi you can also put a chip in a VW so that is a bad example. >>



Do you have any f'n knowledge of VW and Audi's engines?

The 1.8t has it's torque PEAK at 1800 or so RPM's. The VR6 hit's it's peak at about 3200 RPM's.

Stock, the 1.8t puts out 170HP, and 166ft/lbs of torque. With a very easy, and realtively cheap ECU upgrade, the 1.8t is putting out ~205 HP and about 250ft/lbs of torque.

The VR6 puts out around 178 HP and 182ft/lbs of torqe. The engine comes HEAVILY tuned out of the box. Short of very intricate engine work, fairly expensive exhaust swaps, and a $3000-$4000 forced induction kit, you CAN NOT get much more performance out of the VR6.

As for times, a stock VR6 can hit 0-60 in about 7 seconds. A Stock 1.8t can do it in about 7.8 seconds. A Chipped 1.8t can do it an about 6.8-7.0 depending upon launch.

The 1.8t also provides better gas milage, and handles better because it's close to a 100 pounds lighter than the VR6.

BTW, I own a GTi with the VR6 engine.

 

[EXman]

The 1.8t has it's torque PEAK at 1800 or so RPM's. The VR6 hit's it's peak at about 3200 RPM's.

I guess if you Own one I'd hope you'd know more than I. :Q Look brother do not get your panties In a bunch I never claimed to be an Audi expert LoL. I have driven both and I'd pick the VR6 over a turbo. I'd love a link to a turbo with peak torque @ 1800 though seems backwards to the

the thing I am trying to point out is that a Jetta and a A4 are the same car underneath. That is all. so keep your "f'n" to yourself you are not my type! LoL

 

[vi edit]

edmunds

Actually says 1950. I'm pretty sure that the 150 HP version hit it at about 1800.

 

[EXman]

regardless 1800 or 1950rpm it is impressive it is so low but as I stated before HP is at the top (yes so is NA engines but not to the degree) thanks for the Link

 

[LittleWolf]

<< a bunch I never claimed to be an Audi expert LoL. I have driven both and I'd pick the VR6 over a turbo. ,............

the thing I am trying to point out is that a Jetta and a A4 are the same car underneath. That is all. >>



There you go, again showing how clueless you are. While you confess you don't know about Audi, u proclaim than a Jetta is same as a A4. FYI, apart from the base engine 1.8T, there is actually NOTHING in common between the A4 and Jetta. The old A4 and the current Passat are on the other hand related with some components/chassis etc.
Also, the handling of a Jetta and A4 are quite apart, u obviously don't seem to know that either.

On the other hand, the TL has the same bloody chassis and setup right to the almost same cheapo interior and fake leather/wood. :disgust: as the Accord. Granted it has a more powerful engine, but have you ever checked it's handling compared to a A4? Guess again, the TL feels quite ungainy and bloated compared to the A4. BTW, I have driven both extensively, have u? :disgust:
I won't even talk about how crappy the interior of TL is compared to the Audi.


-j

 

[Triumph]

EXman:

<< Well I guess the truth hurts the A4turbo will get it's butt handed to it from a cheaper Jetta GLX (v6) that is the same car. And since a car is the single worst investment you will ever make putting 4 rings on the front pretending that it is a wholey different car is even more foolish than buying a new car to begin with. >>



GQUnknown:

<< And yes it is true that the a4 is an overpriced jetta. >>



Well I can disprove both of your credibilities right now, which negates everything else you say. The A4 is not an overpriced Jetta. It shares the same platform as the Passat, whereas the Jetta, Golf, and TT share the same platform. So no, unless you consider different suspension, different chassis, different transmission, different interior parts to be the same car, well then I guess you're right.

So yeah, a bit of reality is kinda harsh.

EXman:

<< turbo I4's have no torque and the horsepower is not availible throughout the tach. >>


AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! I just read that before I was about to post this reply. You're so clueless! I have seen graph after graph after graph of HP plots of the 1.8T, and they ALL have gobs and gobs of torque, starting at a low low 1750 rpm. This is not a Honda VTEC engine. VAG engines are known for their generous torque characteristics. Since you don't know this, you obviously don't know much about VAG cars in general.

EXman:

<< the thing I am trying to point out is that a Jetta and a A4 are the same car underneath. That is all. so keep your "f'n" to yourself you are not my type! LoL >>


AHHH Here it is again! Just get out of this thread now, because you are just plain wrong. This is fact. I am not wrong in saying that they are not even on the same platform. Leave.